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Anonymous wrote:my DC who was admitted this past cycle in engineering said SAT/GPA is most important. around 1500 SAT and near 4.0 unweighted GPA should get you in.

Nope. My kid (in state) had a 3.99 GPA/4.43 wGPA with a 35 ACT and got waitlisted

This is crazy. Assume this was EA? Should I push my kid to apply ED? I keep hearing from UVA that the difference between applying ED or EA doesn’t matter for UVA admissions. No bump for ED. Kid loves UVA but really likes the idea of getting a choice between all acceptances in March/April!

He applied EA, was deferred, and then waitlisted. He aimed really high in his applications (he also received the full IB Diploma, was an Eagle Scout, and a two time captain of his HS and club teams), and did not get into any of these: Harvard, Yale, MIT, Williams, Amherst, UVa. He got into JMU, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest, and Northeastern. Got an amazing merit scholarship to Northeastern (bringing cost down to only a little more than in-state UVa cost, and went to Boston. He's two years in now, and is having a fantastic experience. Is just finishing up his first co-op (had it extended from 6 to 8-months), where he learned a lot and got paid good money, and has a great group of friends/peers. It has really worked out for him, but he (and I) were pretty steamed at the time when he didn't get into UVa. Never saw the Naviance scattergram after he input the data about UVa, but it must have been a tiny red x in a giant sea of green checkmarks.

Anonymous wrote:My goodness, the UVA boosters never fail to entertain.

Well, this is a thread about UVA...

My goodness, the UVA boosters never fail to entertain.

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Anonymous wrote:my DC who was admitted this past cycle in engineering said SAT/GPA is most important. around 1500 SAT and near 4.0 unweighted GPA should get you in.

Nope. My kid (in state) had a 3.99 GPA/4.43 wGPA with a 35 ACT and got waitlisted

Yield protection.

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Anonymous wrote:my DC who was admitted this past cycle in engineering said SAT/GPA is most important. around 1500 SAT and near 4.0 unweighted GPA should get you in.

Why would anyone go to uva for engineering? Do they even have an accredited engineering program?

Because it's vastly superior to the other somewhat meager in state options. Let's face it. E-school has always been far more selective than the college and the college is more selective than other engineering programs. in the end it just comes down to a better cohort.

my kid got into both VT and UVA for engineering and selected VT because it has a better engineering program.

rookie mistake, as far as job/career placement: UVA is going to lead to more leadership and management roles, and has a higher percent go into innovation/new technology in the private sector. Of course UVA engineering is not ivy level or even Ga-Tech or Berkeley level, but it launches to more white-collar level high tech jobs than VT

Jack Welch’s GE back in the day preferred UVa Engineering over VT because of what PP wrote just above. The VT grad might (no guarantees) be better in math the first day on the job, but the UVa grad’s better leadership and verbal skills meant they were more valuable to GE 5 years out.

“Back in the day” being the key words here. How old are you?!

My dc has a friend who got into Yale but was rejected from UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:Just putting this out there:

Best Undergrad Engineering programs -

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/engineering-doctorate

Hmmm didn’t see uva on that list. Maybe uva wise is ranked higher?

It's waaay down on the list. That was why I posted the link. Someone here was bragging (quelle surprise!) that UVA had a highly ranked engineering program. It does not.

You also have to consider the overall rating. Harvard is not on the top list your provided either.

Yes, exactly. Why would someone choose to study engineering at a school that is not highly ranked in that discipline?

UVa is ranked #38 in engineering...Virginia Tech #31

Undergrad rankings:

VT - #13
UVA - #37
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/engineering-doctorate

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Anonymous wrote:my DC who was admitted this past cycle in engineering said SAT/GPA is most important. around 1500 SAT and near 4.0 unweighted GPA should get you in.

Why would anyone go to uva for engineering? Do they even have an accredited engineering program?

Because it's vastly superior to the other somewhat meager in state options. Let's face it. E-school has always been far more selective than the college and the college is more selective than other engineering programs. in the end it just comes down to a better cohort.

my kid got into both VT and UVA for engineering and selected VT because it has a better engineering program.

rookie mistake, as far as job/career placement: UVA is going to lead to more leadership and management roles, and has a higher percent go into innovation/new technology in the private sector. Of course UVA engineering is not ivy level or even Ga-Tech or Berkeley level, but it launches to more white-collar level high tech jobs than VT

Oh wow… no. You are seriously delusional if this is what you tell yourself.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:my DC who was admitted this past cycle in engineering said SAT/GPA is most important. around 1500 SAT and near 4.0 unweighted GPA should get you in.

Nope. My kid (in state) had a 3.99 GPA/4.43 wGPA with a 35 ACT and got waitlisted

This is crazy. Assume this was EA? Should I push my kid to apply ED? I keep hearing from UVA that the difference between applying ED or EA doesn’t matter for UVA admissions. No bump for ED. Kid loves UVA but really likes the idea of getting a choice between all acceptances in March/April!

Anonymous wrote:my DC who was admitted this past cycle in engineering said SAT/GPA is most important. around 1500 SAT and near 4.0 unweighted GPA should get you in.

Nope. My kid (in state) had a 3.99 GPA/4.43 wGPA with a 35 ACT and got waitlisted

I’ve deduced, albeit unscientifically, that if your kid is in the top 5% of their class they have a strong chance of admission. And before someone says “our school doesn’t rank….” The number of kids applying (1/3 of my DC’s class applied last year) and complete understanding of all the schools by the UVA admissions teams, they can know where your kid lies with high confidence.

Anonymous wrote:For those whose kids were accepted into UVA, do you feel it was mainly grades/test scores or their involvement in ECs that helped their application?

Max out in all Subject areas.
3.98/4.5, 1560, NMSF, NOVA 9 APs (Calc BC, Physics C Mech and E&M, APUSH, Gov, etc) 2 DE
Waitlisted. Did NOT take AP Lang

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Anonymous wrote:my DC who was admitted this past cycle in engineering said SAT/GPA is most important. around 1500 SAT and near 4.0 unweighted GPA should get you in.

Why would anyone go to uva for engineering? Do they even have an accredited engineering program?

Because it's vastly superior to the other somewhat meager in state options. Let's face it. E-school has always been far more selective than the college and the college is more selective than other engineering programs. in the end it just comes down to a better cohort.

my kid got into both VT and UVA for engineering and selected VT because it has a better engineering program.

rookie mistake, as far as job/career placement: UVA is going to lead to more leadership and management roles, and has a higher percent go into innovation/new technology in the private sector. Of course UVA engineering is not ivy level or even Ga-Tech or Berkeley level, but it launches to more white-collar level high tech jobs than VT

Nobody cares where you got your engineering degree. Nobody who hires engineers says “we need a Georgia Tech guy not a UVA guy.”

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Anonymous wrote:Just putting this out there:

Best Undergrad Engineering programs -

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/engineering-doctorate

Hmmm didn’t see uva on that list. Maybe uva wise is ranked higher?

It's waaay down on the list. That was why I posted the link. Someone here was bragging (quelle surprise!) that UVA had a highly ranked engineering program. It does not.

You also have to consider the overall rating. Harvard is not on the top list your provided either.

Yes, exactly. Why would someone choose to study engineering at a school that is not highly ranked in that discipline?

UVa is ranked #38 in engineering...Virginia Tech #31

the rankings sometimes relate to grad-school training. In addition they do not include average intelligence of the students nor the ratings of what math classes are offered. That matters to those of us with doctorates or who have knowledge of the stem fields. Rankings are only useful if you care about the criteria used. Many do not care about how much a school boosts pell grant kids or how large the size of the program is.

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Anonymous wrote:my DC who was admitted this past cycle in engineering said SAT/GPA is most important. around 1500 SAT and near 4.0 unweighted GPA should get you in.

Why would anyone go to uva for engineering? Do they even have an accredited engineering program?

Because it's vastly superior to the other somewhat meager in state options. Let's face it. E-school has always been far more selective than the college and the college is more selective than other engineering programs. in the end it just comes down to a better cohort.

my kid got into both VT and UVA for engineering and selected VT because it has a better engineering program.

rookie mistake, as far as job/career placement: UVA is going to lead to more leadership and management roles, and has a higher percent go into innovation/new technology in the private sector. Of course UVA engineering is not ivy level or even Ga-Tech or Berkeley level, but it launches to more white-collar level high tech jobs than VT

Jack Welch’s GE back in the day preferred UVa Engineering over VT because of what PP wrote just above. The VT grad might (no guarantees) be better in math the first day on the job, but the UVa grad’s better leadership and verbal skills meant they were more valuable to GE 5 years out.