Anonymous
Post 09/12/2024 00:54     Subject: When are NMSF announced?
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Anonymous wrote:They also had a very low cutoff score last year.

This was addressed by a poster in another thread:
"NMSF is awarded to the kids who are in the top 0.5% of PSAT scores in their state. If the cutoff score for VA increased, then the students at the top did better this year compared to last year, meaning they needed a higher score to capture only the top 0.5%. None of this explains why FCPS and TJ have so much of a lower share of the VA NMSF this year than previous years."


Other than TJ, other FCPS schools did not have significant change in their share of NMSF. The only school is TJ, which means the school has less top students. This is the reality and it happened with the group admitted under the new admission rules. You can fill in the blank


Which schools picked up the lost TJ share?

I think Langley pick up the most. That's the highest I have ever seen for Langley.

I imagine there are a handful of kids from outside of FCPS like loudoun that would have been there if not for the admissions changes.

PP here- That’s true also.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2024 21:14     Subject: When are NMSF announced?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They also had a very low cutoff score last year.

This was addressed by a poster in another thread:
"NMSF is awarded to the kids who are in the top 0.5% of PSAT scores in their state. If the cutoff score for VA increased, then the students at the top did better this year compared to last year, meaning they needed a higher score to capture only the top 0.5%. None of this explains why FCPS and TJ have so much of a lower share of the VA NMSF this year than previous years."


Other than TJ, other FCPS schools did not have significant change in their share of NMSF. The only school is TJ, which means the school has less top students. This is the reality and it happened with the group admitted under the new admission rules. You can fill in the blank


Which schools picked up the lost TJ share?

I think Langley pick up the most. That's the highest I have ever seen for Langley.

I imagine there are a handful of kids from outside of FCPS like loudoun that would have been there if not for the admissions changes.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2024 21:07     Subject: When are NMSF announced?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They also had a very low cutoff score last year.

This was addressed by a poster in another thread:
"NMSF is awarded to the kids who are in the top 0.5% of PSAT scores in their state. If the cutoff score for VA increased, then the students at the top did better this year compared to last year, meaning they needed a higher score to capture only the top 0.5%. None of this explains why FCPS and TJ have so much of a lower share of the VA NMSF this year than previous years."


Other than TJ, other FCPS schools did not have significant change in their share of NMSF. The only school is TJ, which means the school has less top students. This is the reality and it happened with the group admitted under the new admission rules. You can fill in the blank


Which schools picked up the lost TJ share?

I think Langley pick up the most. That's the highest I have ever seen for Langley.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2024 20:59     Subject: When are NMSF announced?
Anonymous wrote:That is a shockingly low number for TJ! When my kid were there, it was usually about 150 each year.

Yikes.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2024 20:37     Subject: When are NMSF announced?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They also had a very low cutoff score last year.

This was addressed by a poster in another thread:
"NMSF is awarded to the kids who are in the top 0.5% of PSAT scores in their state. If the cutoff score for VA increased, then the students at the top did better this year compared to last year, meaning they needed a higher score to capture only the top 0.5%. None of this explains why FCPS and TJ have so much of a lower share of the VA NMSF this year than previous years."


Other than TJ, other FCPS schools did not have significant change in their share of NMSF. The only school is TJ, which means the school has less top students. This is the reality and it happened with the group admitted under the new admission rules. You can fill in the blank


Which schools picked up the lost TJ share?


I guess any VA school outside of TJ. 1 here, 2 there can easily make up for the 80 that TJ lost. I know at least of 2 students from a high school eligible for TJ but outside of FCPS that are NMSF. They did apply to TJ but didn't get in.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2024 18:57     Subject: When are NMSF announced?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They also had a very low cutoff score last year.

This was addressed by a poster in another thread:
"NMSF is awarded to the kids who are in the top 0.5% of PSAT scores in their state. If the cutoff score for VA increased, then the students at the top did better this year compared to last year, meaning they needed a higher score to capture only the top 0.5%. None of this explains why FCPS and TJ have so much of a lower share of the VA NMSF this year than previous years."


Other than TJ, other FCPS schools did not have significant change in their share of NMSF. The only school is TJ, which means the school has less top students. This is the reality and it happened with the group admitted under the new admission rules. You can fill in the blank


Which schools picked up the lost TJ share?
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2024 18:42     Subject: When are NMSF announced?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This looks like a FCPS fail not just TJ. Maybe 1/2 of those 16 students from other schools might have been admitted to TJ. In general, the quality of FCPS education has gone down.


But if you look at the private school list, those don't seem to be particularly amazing either.

It has historically only been TJ that really stuck out.


I’ve been looking at different states/regions and overall public schools seem to have more semi-finalists.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2024 18:40     Subject: When are NMSF announced?
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Anonymous wrote:I see it as a TJ fail. The other schools in fcps didn't see their number decreased, only Tj and by half.

That's odd since TJ is doing orders of magnitude better than these other schools. You seem confused.


These are all the same order of magnitude:

TJ 81 (vs. 165)
Langley 19 (vs. 13)
McLean 16 (vs. 15)
Oakton 11 (vs. 14)
Chantilly 10 (vs. 13)



Changes compared to last year (Class of 2024) noted.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2024 18:14     Subject: When are NMSF announced?
Anonymous wrote:That is a shockingly low number for TJ! When my kid were there, it was usually about 150 each year.


To be honest, nothing shocking about it when admission is no longer solely based on merit
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2024 18:08     Subject: When are NMSF announced?
That is a shockingly low number for TJ! When my kid were there, it was usually about 150 each year.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2024 18:04     Subject: When are NMSF announced?
Anonymous wrote:They also had a very low cutoff score last year.


It was 222 in 2018 when TJ had around 150 NMSFs.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2024 17:49     Subject: When are NMSF announced?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see it as a TJ fail. The other schools in fcps didn't see their number decreased, only Tj and by half.

That's odd since TJ is doing orders of magnitude better than these other schools. You seem confused.


These are all the same order of magnitude:

TJ 81
Langley 19
McLean 16
Oakton 11
Chantilly 10
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2024 16:48     Subject: When are NMSF announced?
Last year, TJ had 35.3% of the VA NMSF. This year, they only have 20.6% of the VA NMSF.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2024 16:05     Subject: When are NMSF announced?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They also had a very low cutoff score last year.

This was addressed by a poster in another thread:
"NMSF is awarded to the kids who are in the top 0.5% of PSAT scores in their state. If the cutoff score for VA increased, then the students at the top did better this year compared to last year, meaning they needed a higher score to capture only the top 0.5%. None of this explains why FCPS and TJ have so much of a lower share of the VA NMSF this year than previous years."


Other than TJ, other FCPS schools did not have significant change in their share of NMSF. The only school is TJ, which means the school has less top students. This is the reality and it happened with the group admitted under the new admission rules. You can fill in the blank
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2024 15:54     Subject: When are NMSF announced?
Anonymous wrote:They also had a very low cutoff score last year.

This was addressed by a poster in another thread:
"NMSF is awarded to the kids who are in the top 0.5% of PSAT scores in their state. If the cutoff score for VA increased, then the students at the top did better this year compared to last year, meaning they needed a higher score to capture only the top 0.5%. None of this explains why FCPS and TJ have so much of a lower share of the VA NMSF this year than previous years."