Absolutely hate it, especially dealing with the sleazeball car salesmen.
Last time the guy insisted on showing us everything we could do with the app. We both said we weren't interested and we just wanted a car that could pull our camper but he had to futz around. Plugs his phone in to the car and cracks "If my girlfriend texts don't tell my wife." Hilarious.

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Anonymous wrote:Hmm, I got my Honda “$3000” off MSRP, which Im always skeptical of because of the processing fees and such.

My out the door price (including taxes and registration) was $1000 less than MSRP — is there anyway to evaluate if this was a fair price?

Financing was very smooth, and I have a 4% rate which seemed well enough.

I shopped around 7 places and this was the best offer I could fine, and it seemed okay, but went smooth enough I must have been ignorant and ripped off.

Once you agree to a sales price, the only additional charges should be the dealer processing fee (it’s high, often $1000 or so these days) your state’s sales tax and some tag/title fee usually around $100. Look at your bill of sale and see what you paid. Any additional charges are BS.

MSRP $33000
Discount -$3000
Processing $990
Dealer license tax $70
title Tax $1200
Registration tax $220
OTD: ~ $31000

I rounded some numbers but that’s what’s on the sheet more or less

I really tried to get rid of processing fee, it irked me but they wouldn’t budge on price or that fee anymore.

Is this a decent deal?

You should agree on the out the door price, which includes everything, not the car sales price.

This is the correct answer.

In my experience the luxury dealerships are much better. Less slimy lies and jerking you around. Unfortunately I prefer Toyotas and end up hating my life when car buying.

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Anonymous wrote:Hmm, I got my Honda “$3000” off MSRP, which Im always skeptical of because of the processing fees and such.

My out the door price (including taxes and registration) was $1000 less than MSRP — is there anyway to evaluate if this was a fair price?

Financing was very smooth, and I have a 4% rate which seemed well enough.

I shopped around 7 places and this was the best offer I could fine, and it seemed okay, but went smooth enough I must have been ignorant and ripped off.

Once you agree to a sales price, the only additional charges should be the dealer processing fee (it’s high, often $1000 or so these days) your state’s sales tax and some tag/title fee usually around $100. Look at your bill of sale and see what you paid. Any additional charges are BS.

MSRP $33000
Discount -$3000
Processing $990
Dealer license tax $70
title Tax $1200
Registration tax $220
OTD: ~ $31000

I rounded some numbers but that’s what’s on the sheet more or less

I really tried to get rid of processing fee, it irked me but they wouldn’t budge on price or that fee anymore.

Is this a decent deal?

You should agree on the out the door price, which includes everything, not the car sales price.

Yes! I was surprised that the last time I was seriously looking to buy a particular model of car, the main salesman at the first dealership we looked at was just plain rude. We left and bought the car elsewhere.

I don't understand what motivates a car salesman to be rude.

I bought from Browns Honda in Arlington VA. Negotiated a price over the phone and picked up the car. No hassles.

This post makes me feel better after going thru the gauntlet recently. So many games being played and so much time being wasted. I only decided to go thru a dealer this time pick up exactly what I wanted along with an awesome warranty. With all the time I wasted going back and forth I should have just stuck with CarMax. Love my car tho - just felt real dirty, tired and worn out after leaving the dealership in rush hour traffic in the rain. Yay 😂

Anonymous wrote:For the people who have had good experiences, could you name the dealership? We're shopping for a minivan and all I know is I'm never going back to the Bethesda Honda dealership but I'd love some pointers, particularly a Toyota dealership.

Passport Toyota was okay. It was the end of the day and we had chosen the car from the internet before we arrived. That removed all the BS.

Sheehy Toyota in Laurel was horrible. If you want to be abused, go there.

For someone who’s never bought a car from a dealership, what kind of tricks do they pull?

Anonymous wrote:I think Fitzgerald is supposed to be good. I can't speak from experience but in terms of their practices, that's my understanding of their reputation.

I just had an unpleasant experience with Fitzgeralds though I had always heard good things. They don’t negotiate at all. The advertised price is the price. The assumption is you don’t get ripped off but you might pay a little more in exchange for avoiding the hassle of negotiating. I’m ok with that but on a Mazda they wanted sticker. When I said I had a lower price than sticker I was told the car “would be sold for MSRP” and that was the end of conversation. I’d be fine being told that they can’t offer a lower price but the response was pretty rude and hostile.

Fc auto falls church treated me very fairly. Used cars

I think Fitzgerald is supposed to be good. I can't speak from experience but in terms of their practices, that's my understanding of their reputation.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hmm, I got my Honda “$3000” off MSRP, which Im always skeptical of because of the processing fees and such.

My out the door price (including taxes and registration) was $1000 less than MSRP — is there anyway to evaluate if this was a fair price?

Financing was very smooth, and I have a 4% rate which seemed well enough.

I shopped around 7 places and this was the best offer I could fine, and it seemed okay, but went smooth enough I must have been ignorant and ripped off.

Once you agree to a sales price, the only additional charges should be the dealer processing fee (it’s high, often $1000 or so these days) your state’s sales tax and some tag/title fee usually around $100. Look at your bill of sale and see what you paid. Any additional charges are BS.

MSRP $33000
Discount -$3000
Processing $990
Dealer license tax $70
title Tax $1200
Registration tax $220
OTD: ~ $31000

I rounded some numbers but that’s what’s on the sheet more or less

I really tried to get rid of processing fee, it irked me but they wouldn’t budge on price or that fee anymore.

Is this a decent deal?

Edmunds.com will tell you.
https://www.edmunds.com/

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Anonymous wrote:The car dealership keeps you there all day long. By the time you come home with your new car, you're physically and mentally exhausted. You also feel like a huge sucker because you got ripped off. If you don't feel like a sucker, you really got ripped off and don't even know it.

I drive my cars until the wheels fall off just to avoid going to the dealership. If hell exists, it probably an eternal loop of the car buying experience.

Once they have your contact info you can leave after 30-40 minutes. Name drop another dealership you are headed to and bounce. The negotiation starts when you leave the parking lot.

Are you kidding? I tried to leave after coming in to get a price and they bum rushed me and wouldn’t let me leave. Walking away to “think about” makes them almost angry.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hmm, I got my Honda “$3000” off MSRP, which Im always skeptical of because of the processing fees and such.

My out the door price (including taxes and registration) was $1000 less than MSRP — is there anyway to evaluate if this was a fair price?

Financing was very smooth, and I have a 4% rate which seemed well enough.

I shopped around 7 places and this was the best offer I could fine, and it seemed okay, but went smooth enough I must have been ignorant and ripped off.

Once you agree to a sales price, the only additional charges should be the dealer processing fee (it’s high, often $1000 or so these days) your state’s sales tax and some tag/title fee usually around $100. Look at your bill of sale and see what you paid. Any additional charges are BS.

MSRP $33000
Discount -$3000
Processing $990
Dealer license tax $70
title Tax $1200
Registration tax $220
OTD: ~ $31000

I rounded some numbers but that’s what’s on the sheet more or less

I really tried to get rid of processing fee, it irked me but they wouldn’t budge on price or that fee anymore.

Is this a decent deal?