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Anonymous wrote:The one my child had left in the middle of the year, so there's that.

That is not good. What happened as a result?

A long-term sub who got her own "tv show" through FCPS even though she's not a very good teacher.

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Anonymous wrote:The one my child had left in the middle of the year, so there's that.

That is not good. What happened as a result?

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Anonymous wrote:If districts want more minority teachers, they aren’t going to get them if they continue with unpaid internships. I’m not low income but it was touch and go for a few months during my student teaching year. I definitely had to play some checkbook roulette that year. The same was true my first 5-7 years of teaching. If my father hadn’t died and left me $20k, I would’ve been hitting up the food kitchens.

Teaching is a low return on investment degree. Honestly they need to partner with community colleges to make teaching a four year program at each community college. Make a teaching degree as cheap as possible.

I think that would attract less qualified people.

Having teachers go through an actual low cost program would be better than the trainee program. A low cost degree would attract more candidates with better training.

The money saved may not be that big of an incentive.

The biggest mistake the county made was cutting off the participation in the old retirement plan.

Is that why teachers are leaving to pw and LCPS?

Prince William just made some nice adjustments to their salary, which will encourage some of the teachers that live there to start working there. A lot of the teachers that live in that county have a 30-50 minute commute daily (due to traffic).

LCPS hasn’t increased their salary to be as competitive, but I can imagine a 10 minutes commute is better than a 30-45 minute commute. Not everyone wants to teach in Herndon, the commute to work in Oakton, Vienna, etc. gets expensive and tiring.

What is supposed to make Fairfax more attractive is the supplemental pension. By the time you factor the time and wear and day on your car driving in every day it’s not worth it for many people.

I commuted from Loudoun to Fairfax for 7 years. It’s just not worth the time and money when, with the shortage, I can get a job easily down the street.

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Anonymous wrote:If districts want more minority teachers, they aren’t going to get them if they continue with unpaid internships. I’m not low income but it was touch and go for a few months during my student teaching year. I definitely had to play some checkbook roulette that year. The same was true my first 5-7 years of teaching. If my father hadn’t died and left me $20k, I would’ve been hitting up the food kitchens.

Teaching is a low return on investment degree. Honestly they need to partner with community colleges to make teaching a four year program at each community college. Make a teaching degree as cheap as possible.

I think that would attract less qualified people.

Having teachers go through an actual low cost program would be better than the trainee program. A low cost degree would attract more candidates with better training.

The money saved may not be that big of an incentive.

The biggest mistake the county made was cutting off the participation in the old retirement plan.

Is that why teachers are leaving to pw and LCPS?

Prince William just made some nice adjustments to their salary, which will encourage some of the teachers that live there to start working there. A lot of the teachers that live in that county have a 30-50 minute commute daily (due to traffic).

LCPS hasn’t increased their salary to be as competitive, but I can imagine a 10 minutes commute is better than a 30-45 minute commute. Not everyone wants to teach in Herndon, the commute to work in Oakton, Vienna, etc. gets expensive and tiring.

What is supposed to make Fairfax more attractive is the supplemental pension. By the time you factor the time and wear and day on your car driving in every day it’s not worth it for many people.

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Anonymous wrote:we had one that quit doing Winter Break.
she send an email out" I am not coming back good bye"

That's just sad. Did you all not get her a gift card?

we didn't. I just want to know what % of them quit before the end of the school year.

I remember 2 years ago, my neighbor was doing this it had a different name, but she was living with her parents at the time and she quit because she didn't like it. (She was teaching high school biology) Now she is attending med school.

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Anonymous wrote:we had one that quit doing Winter Break.
she send an email out" I am not coming back good bye"

That's just sad. Did you all not get her a gift card?

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Anonymous wrote:If districts want more minority teachers, they aren’t going to get them if they continue with unpaid internships. I’m not low income but it was touch and go for a few months during my student teaching year. I definitely had to play some checkbook roulette that year. The same was true my first 5-7 years of teaching. If my father hadn’t died and left me $20k, I would’ve been hitting up the food kitchens.

Teaching is a low return on investment degree. Honestly they need to partner with community colleges to make teaching a four year program at each community college. Make a teaching degree as cheap as possible.

I think that would attract less qualified people.

Having teachers go through an actual low cost program would be better than the trainee program. A low cost degree would attract more candidates with better training.

The money saved may not be that big of an incentive.

The biggest mistake the county made was cutting off the participation in the old retirement plan.

Is that why teachers are leaving to pw and LCPS?

Prince William just made some nice adjustments to their salary, which will encourage some of the teachers that live there to start working there. A lot of the teachers that live in that county have a 30-50 minute commute daily (due to traffic).

LCPS hasn’t increased their salary to be as competitive, but I can imagine a 10 minutes commute is better than a 30-45 minute commute. Not everyone wants to teach in Herndon, the commute to work in Oakton, Vienna, etc. gets expensive and tiring.

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Anonymous wrote:If districts want more minority teachers, they aren’t going to get them if they continue with unpaid internships. I’m not low income but it was touch and go for a few months during my student teaching year. I definitely had to play some checkbook roulette that year. The same was true my first 5-7 years of teaching. If my father hadn’t died and left me $20k, I would’ve been hitting up the food kitchens.

Teaching is a low return on investment degree. Honestly they need to partner with community colleges to make teaching a four year program at each community college. Make a teaching degree as cheap as possible.

I think that would attract less qualified people.

Having teachers go through an actual low cost program would be better than the trainee program. A low cost degree would attract more candidates with better training.

The money saved may not be that big of an incentive.

The biggest mistake the county made was cutting off the participation in the old retirement plan.

Is that why teachers are leaving to pw and LCPS?

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Anonymous wrote:If districts want more minority teachers, they aren’t going to get them if they continue with unpaid internships. I’m not low income but it was touch and go for a few months during my student teaching year. I definitely had to play some checkbook roulette that year. The same was true my first 5-7 years of teaching. If my father hadn’t died and left me $20k, I would’ve been hitting up the food kitchens.

Teaching is a low return on investment degree. Honestly they need to partner with community colleges to make teaching a four year program at each community college. Make a teaching degree as cheap as possible.

I think that would attract less qualified people.

Having teachers go through an actual low cost program would be better than the trainee program. A low cost degree would attract more candidates with better training.

The money saved may not be that big of an incentive.

The biggest mistake the county made was cutting off the participation in the old retirement plan.

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Anonymous wrote:If districts want more minority teachers, they aren’t going to get them if they continue with unpaid internships. I’m not low income but it was touch and go for a few months during my student teaching year. I definitely had to play some checkbook roulette that year. The same was true my first 5-7 years of teaching. If my father hadn’t died and left me $20k, I would’ve been hitting up the food kitchens.

Teaching is a low return on investment degree. Honestly they need to partner with community colleges to make teaching a four year program at each community college. Make a teaching degree as cheap as possible.

I think that would attract less qualified people.

Having teachers go through an actual low cost program would be better than the trainee program. A low cost degree would attract more candidates with better training.

The money saved may not be that big of an incentive.

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Anonymous wrote:If districts want more minority teachers, they aren’t going to get them if they continue with unpaid internships. I’m not low income but it was touch and go for a few months during my student teaching year. I definitely had to play some checkbook roulette that year. The same was true my first 5-7 years of teaching. If my father hadn’t died and left me $20k, I would’ve been hitting up the food kitchens.

Teaching is a low return on investment degree. Honestly they need to partner with community colleges to make teaching a four year program at each community college. Make a teaching degree as cheap as possible.

I think that would attract less qualified people.

Having teachers go through an actual low cost program would be better than the trainee program. A low cost degree would attract more candidates with better training.

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Anonymous wrote:If districts want more minority teachers, they aren’t going to get them if they continue with unpaid internships. I’m not low income but it was touch and go for a few months during my student teaching year. I definitely had to play some checkbook roulette that year. The same was true my first 5-7 years of teaching. If my father hadn’t died and left me $20k, I would’ve been hitting up the food kitchens.

Teaching is a low return on investment degree. Honestly they need to partner with community colleges to make teaching a four year program at each community college. Make a teaching degree as cheap as possible.

I think that would attract less qualified people.

Why? Here is what I think should happen. If you are smart and good grades, they should have free college tuition if you get a teaching degree and commit to teaching for a certain number of years (if you don't you have to pay it back).

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Anonymous wrote:If districts want more minority teachers, they aren’t going to get them if they continue with unpaid internships. I’m not low income but it was touch and go for a few months during my student teaching year. I definitely had to play some checkbook roulette that year. The same was true my first 5-7 years of teaching. If my father hadn’t died and left me $20k, I would’ve been hitting up the food kitchens.

Teaching is a low return on investment degree. Honestly they need to partner with community colleges to make teaching a four year program at each community college. Make a teaching degree as cheap as possible.

I think that would attract less qualified people.

Anonymous wrote:we had one that quit doing Winter Break.
she send an email out" I am not coming back good bye"

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Anonymous wrote:former journalist, everything is exactly the same as said above re teaching. internships are necessary but mostly unpaid, have to do them though to get a foot in the door, while taking classes usually.

teachers get way more vaca than journos though ... same crap pay. I guess journos win on the issue of generally being able to use the restroom when nature calls without waiting for a stand-in.

And being able to press charges if you are abused at work.