Anonymous
Post 08/03/2024 07:40     Subject: Non-DC academies

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What are the points and measurements you are using in your objective comparison of MLS academies?

It's completely your personal interpretation of the facts when you say DCU "missed" a good player.
I personally know of players who have underperformed, had poor discipline, been benched, parents got disgruntled and left for another chance elsewhere.
Some were sent packing.
I'm sure your objectivity includes those relocations.


I really don't want to explain why Philly Union, NYRB, RSL, etc has a better program than DCU. Why don't YOU tell us why DCU is better than these academies?

I'll just say that MLS academies aren't going to pick up underperforming, poor disciplined benchers for their homestay/boarding programs... What kind of business would invest that kind of money into those players? They pick up kids that are potentially pro, kids that start and often play the whole game. In fact, I know of DMV players who turned down DCU to play at better academies. You really don't know what you're talking about.


Blah blah blah
Rhetoric and conjecture without facts.

Politics can get a player into any program, as you stated before.
So homestay and boarding is no different.

Again, please present the objective measurements that are used to identify the differences in MLS academies.
Not your feelings or opinions.

btw.... so what if Philly and NYRB are 'better' than DCU?
What practically does that mean in the grand scheme of things?
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 20:46     Subject: Non-DC academies

Anonymous wrote:What are the points and measurements you are using in your objective comparison of MLS academies?

It's completely your personal interpretation of the facts when you say DCU "missed" a good player.
I personally know of players who have underperformed, had poor discipline, been benched, parents got disgruntled and left for another chance elsewhere.
Some were sent packing.
I'm sure your objectivity includes those relocations.


I really don't want to explain why Philly Union, NYRB, RSL, etc has a better program than DCU. Why don't YOU tell us why DCU is better than these academies?

I'll just say that MLS academies aren't going to pick up underperforming, poor disciplined benchers for their homestay/boarding programs... What kind of business would invest that kind of money into those players? They pick up kids that are potentially pro, kids that start and often play the whole game. In fact, I know of DMV players who turned down DCU to play at better academies. You really don't know what you're talking about.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 18:32     Subject: Non-DC academies

There are no academies with families outside of DMV that talk about “some kid from DC might move here and take your spot”

Kid from CA, sure. Kid from NY, TX, sure! PA, yep. But DC doesn’t hit the radar despite the transient nature of the metro area.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 17:01     Subject: Non-DC academies

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You're obviously exaggerating the amount of DMV kids/families who have relocated to MLS Club Academies across the country.
It's logistically irrational.

That said, if the DMV is the hottest area for young soccer talent, then no matter the local academy, it wouldn't have room for them all.
PSG can't have all the ballers in Paris
Barcelona can't have all the ballers in Barcelona
Same for Munich and Madrid etc

Also, none of our MLS academies are setting the world on fire with producing world class professionals.
So your infatuation with the non DC academies is all relative.


Are you even reading the posts before yours? I already stated I personally don't know any families that relocated for an academy, just what I read online from parents that did. I used relocation as an example of getting around your home academy from blocking the players move to an outside academy. All the DMV kids I know are in a homestay/boarding program at the other academies.

I agree with your second and third points, but I'm also not wrong saying DCU missed out on these kids. Are you arguing just to argue?

And I've never compared MLS to the rest of the world, just DCU vs the other MLS academies, which this whole post is about.

At this point I think I'm getting trolled, I'll bow out from arguing with your secondhand knowledge of the subject.


What are the points and measurements you are using in your objective comparison of MLS academies?

It's completely your personal interpretation of the facts when you say DCU "missed" a good player.
I personally know of players who have underperformed, had poor discipline, been benched, parents got disgruntled and left for another chance elsewhere.
Some were sent packing.
I'm sure your objectivity includes those relocations.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 16:06     Subject: Non-DC academies

Anonymous wrote:You're obviously exaggerating the amount of DMV kids/families who have relocated to MLS Club Academies across the country.
It's logistically irrational.

That said, if the DMV is the hottest area for young soccer talent, then no matter the local academy, it wouldn't have room for them all.
PSG can't have all the ballers in Paris
Barcelona can't have all the ballers in Barcelona
Same for Munich and Madrid etc

Also, none of our MLS academies are setting the world on fire with producing world class professionals.
So your infatuation with the non DC academies is all relative.


Are you even reading the posts before yours? I already stated I personally don't know any families that relocated for an academy, just what I read online from parents that did. I used relocation as an example of getting around your home academy from blocking the players move to an outside academy. All the DMV kids I know are in a homestay/boarding program at the other academies.

I agree with your second and third points, but I'm also not wrong saying DCU missed out on these kids. Are you arguing just to argue?

And I've never compared MLS to the rest of the world, just DCU vs the other MLS academies, which this whole post is about.

At this point I think I'm getting trolled, I'll bow out from arguing with your secondhand knowledge of the subject.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 15:44     Subject: Non-DC academies

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I'm neither. Just a local that supports local and challenge people with obvious axe to grind.

I guarantee you can't produce rosters of MLS Club Academies outside DC that have several DMV kids (those regions don't have good players?)

You have an agenda and liberally use gross exaggerations and untruths.


Just say you have no idea what you're talking about then. If you have no actual experience with these academies, why even provide input?

You're right, I can't produce a roster full of DMV kids because all of the DMV kids are spread out nationally. However, there is one academy that has 4-5 kids on it that are from DCU's territory. You'll have to figure out which one that is since you know it all.

What am I exaggerating or lieing about?

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/3532524/2022/08/23/mls-homegrown-player-territory-rules/


You're obviously exaggerating the amount of DMV kids/families who have relocated to MLS Club Academies across the country.
It's logistically irrational.

That said, if the DMV is the hottest area for young soccer talent, then no matter the local academy, it wouldn't have room for them all.
PSG can't have all the ballers in Paris
Barcelona can't have all the ballers in Barcelona
Same for Munich and Madrid etc

Also, none of our MLS academies are setting the world on fire with producing world class professionals.
So your infatuation with the non DC academies is all relative.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 15:28     Subject: Non-DC academies

I'll give you a hint though. That academy is in one of the hotbeds of soccer in the US. So yes, that region has a ton of local talent.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 15:26     Subject: Non-DC academies

Anonymous wrote:
I'm neither. Just a local that supports local and challenge people with obvious axe to grind.

I guarantee you can't produce rosters of MLS Club Academies outside DC that have several DMV kids (those regions don't have good players?)

You have an agenda and liberally use gross exaggerations and untruths.


Just say you have no idea what you're talking about then. If you have no actual experience with these academies, why even provide input?

You're right, I can't produce a roster full of DMV kids because all of the DMV kids are spread out nationally. However, there is one academy that has 4-5 kids on it that are from DCU's territory. You'll have to figure out which one that is since you know it all.

What am I exaggerating or lieing about?

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/3532524/2022/08/23/mls-homegrown-player-territory-rules/
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 15:05     Subject: Non-DC academies

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You don't miss a chance to show up with your spin as soon as DC United surfaces on the forum.

Based on the rules, how are a "bunch of local kids playing for other MLS Club Academies"?

Every academy in the world loses out on talented kids since they can't have 65 on a roster.

One day, you're just going to have to accept like many others that your kid just wasn't good enough or a good fit!
Don't be mad with the mirror, it's just your reflection.


It's ok to be wrong, you obviously need to go read the current homegrown rules. There ARE a bunch of locals playing at other academies, even more this year since MLS moved from u15/u17 to U16/U18 ages. They are at academies with a better program in fact. (Philly Union, NYRB, RSL, etc)

One day, you're going to have to accept that DCU just isn't great compared to the other academies. Which one are you, you work at DCU or are a parent?



I'm neither. Just a local that supports local and challenge people with obvious axe to grind.

I guarantee you can't produce rosters of MLS Club Academies outside DC that have several DMV kids (those regions don't have good players?)

You have an agenda and liberally use gross exaggerations and untruths.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 15:02     Subject: Non-DC academies

Anonymous wrote:
If there are multiple top level young players who's families are packing up and moving to play for Chicago Fire or Nashville etc.... I'd be very surprised (in high numbers)


I honestly don't know of any... all of the kids that I know that play outside of DCU are in a homestay or boarding program. I posted that they can move into another territory in cases where negotiations fail between the two academies and the home academy blocks their move.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 14:57     Subject: Non-DC academies

Anonymous wrote:
You don't miss a chance to show up with your spin as soon as DC United surfaces on the forum.

Based on the rules, how are a "bunch of local kids playing for other MLS Club Academies"?

Every academy in the world loses out on talented kids since they can't have 65 on a roster.

One day, you're just going to have to accept like many others that your kid just wasn't good enough or a good fit!
Don't be mad with the mirror, it's just your reflection.


It's ok to be wrong, you obviously need to go read the current homegrown rules. There ARE a bunch of locals playing at other academies, even more this year since MLS moved from u15/u17 to U16/U18 ages. They are at academies with a better program in fact. (Philly Union, NYRB, RSL, etc)

One day, you're going to have to accept that DCU just isn't great compared to the other academies. Which one are you, you work at DCU or are a parent?

Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 14:45     Subject: Non-DC academies

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP asks about local boys playing for MLS Academies other than DCU, everyone goes off about everything BUT that.


I thought it was just me. 🤣
I know of a few players who recently bypassed DCU and signed with other academies. Or left DCU for other academies.


A few?
Whats a few?

How do you bypass your home geographic region academy and go to another one?

I know of players who they and DCU parted ways and ended up elsewhere.
The details of why they parted ways makes a big difference to the narrative, no?


Read post right before yours.


If there are multiple top level young players who's families are packing up and moving to play for Chicago Fire or Nashville etc.... I'd be very surprised (in high numbers)
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 14:35     Subject: Non-DC academies

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP asks about local boys playing for MLS Academies other than DCU, everyone goes off about everything BUT that.


I thought it was just me. 🤣
I know of a few players who recently bypassed DCU and signed with other academies. Or left DCU for other academies.


A few?
Whats a few?

How do you bypass your home geographic region academy and go to another one?

I know of players who they and DCU parted ways and ended up elsewhere.
The details of why they parted ways makes a big difference to the narrative, no?


Read post right before yours.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 14:31     Subject: Non-DC academies

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP asks about local boys playing for MLS Academies other than DCU, everyone goes off about everything BUT that.


I thought it was just me. 🤣
I know of a few players who recently bypassed DCU and signed with other academies. Or left DCU for other academies.


Yea there are a bunch of local kids playing for other academies throughout the age ranges. Either because DCU scouting is bad, politics, or they are looking for something specific. DCU academy doesn't have the best reputation... either way, they lost out on a lot of talented kids.


You don't miss a chance to show up with your spin as soon as DC United surfaces on the forum.

Based on the rules, how are a "bunch of local kids playing for other MLS Club Academies"?

Every academy in the world loses out on talented kids since they can't have 65 on a roster.

One day, you're just going to have to accept like many others that your kid just wasn't good enough or a good fit!
Don't be mad with the mirror, it's just your reflection.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 14:24     Subject: Non-DC academies

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP asks about local boys playing for MLS Academies other than DCU, everyone goes off about everything BUT that.


I thought it was just me. 🤣
I know of a few players who recently bypassed DCU and signed with other academies. Or left DCU for other academies.


A few?
Whats a few?

How do you bypass your home geographic region academy and go to another one?

I know of players who they and DCU parted ways and ended up elsewhere.
The details of why they parted ways makes a big difference to the narrative, no?