Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 17:44     Subject: How do you get enough fiber?

Anonymous wrote:For those of you who eat a lot of fruit (both fresh and dried), are you concerned at all about the sugar content or is it just a worthwhile trade off? I feel like this is my easiest path to fiber intake (along with vitamins, hydration, and all the other good stuff in fresh fruit) but worry I’ll be overloading my body with glucose spikes all day…

Not at all. I am the eats peas and cherries and all that pp. I never worry about sugar in fruit. Nor do I have any high sugar levels on recent blood work.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 17:43     Subject: How do you get enough fiber?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You clearly have never experienced chronic constipation.


Fiber is not the miracle cure you think it is. It's actually causing a lot of irritation. Fix your poor diet and get off the medications that are actually causing your symptoms

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3435786/



People: eating whole fibrous foods

You: get off the medication!!!
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 17:11     Subject: How do you get enough fiber?

OP, I posted nearly the exact same question a few months ago! You might find some ideas here:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1205014.page

I stopped tracking after a few weeks - it was just a learning exercise for me, not a complete lifestyle change. But as a result, I have started adding a lot more beans, legumes, brown rice, and farro to my diet. I've switched to grain bowls with beans/ lentils and veggies 3-4 days a week. That - plus adding chia seeds to my overnight oats - really made the biggest difference.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 16:59     Subject: How do you get enough fiber?

Today I had, cucumbers, blueberries, arugula, asparagus, chia seeds, flax seed protein wrap, almond butter, cheese and for dinner some chicken breast and avocado. I also had a protein shake with 30g protein and 3g fiber.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 16:10     Subject: How do you get enough fiber?

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Anonymous wrote:Kellogg All Bran with BRAN BUDS.


Does this really make sense to you all? Eating processed foods to hit a mythical fiber intake amount?


The gummies are pretty useless. Even metamucil is meh. There is 5 grams of fiber in it, just eat an apple.

There are so many foods naturally high in fiber. I don’t understand why anyone would resort to gummies of gross powders when there are so many delicious foods rich in fiber.


It's mind boggling to me why people use fiber supplements.

Eat abundant fruits and vegetables (a *minimum* of 5 servings a day, but ideally 7-10) and you'll be fine. No need to count grams as long as you eat your fruits/vegetables.


Because not everybody has the time or the desire to eat 7 to 10 servings of anything in a day


Ah, so you're one of those "I eat McDonalds but I take my multivitamin" types.


Ahh, so you're one of those "a$$hole" types.

Go f*ck yourself, I haven't eaten fast food in decades.



Eat real food, quit taking the supplements. It's really not difficult to eat 7 servings of produce a day, especially if you include beans. A serving is pretty tiny.


Yes, for me it is difficult to impossible.

Please say exactly why the supplements are bad, and provide evidence.


It’s isn’t bad, but it isn’t good either. It’s just a waste. You don’t get the same benefits.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5413815/


Thanks for agreeing they are not bad, and this is a nice time for you to withdraw your McD's insult. Everything I looked at in your link SUPPORTS the use of supplements for normal digestive purposes (the reason I and many others take them) but say there isn't evidence they provide the other health benefits . What am I missing? What is the negative?



DP, but in the conclusion:

Fiber supplements may appear to be a healthy option to increase fiber intake, but clinical evidence supports that most fibers in supplements do not provide any of the health benefits associated with a high‐fiber diet.

The supplements aren't bad, as PP said. They just aren't as good as actual food.

(And fwiw, I love the occasional McD's, but for the most part, focus on eating a ton of fruits and vegetables (7-10 servings is really not that much). I definitely feel better when I do the latter, rather than McD's and a supplement.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 14:18     Subject: How do you get enough fiber?

I have no idea how much fiber this is but it feels like enough by the end of the day:

Breakfast:
=1 tablespoon of metamucil in 20 oz water
=1 slice whole wheat toast with one whole avocado on top
=coffee

Snack:
=small bag of cashews from the gas station and a cappuccino

Lunch:
=Homemade tuscan farro soup (cannellini beans, farro, carrots, celery, onion, and crushed tomatoes) with parmesan cheese
=slice of whole wheat bread with butter
=2 cups strawberries

Dinner:
=Roast pork with homemade coleslaw (red and green cabbage and carrot)
=roasted sweet potato
=A cup of blueberries

Dessert
=Bowl of plain popcorn drenched in butter and salt and a beer in front of ye olde Netflix
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 14:17     Subject: How do you get enough fiber?

Anonymous wrote:Do you all realize fiber is completely useless? The body literally rejects every bit of it. It causes you to have a lot of gas and super powerful bowels movements. Your body is saying get this stuff out of me, it's irritating me


Wow that is some colossal stupidity right there.

Fiber feeds the tens of trillions of bacteria in the gut, which is the seat of human health. Fermentation of that fiber by those trillions of bacteria is how short chain fatty acids are produced- there is no other way to get SCFAs, no supplements or foods that provide them absent fiber.

Look at your own dentition - see all those broad flat surfaces that make up your teeth? They evolved for the regular consumption of fiber. You are a primate; the primary foods of primates are fiber rich.

Historically humans routinely consumed up to 100g plus of fiber daily. The current RDA is not even 1/3 that amount, and the average American is not coming anywhere close to meeting the RDA - most don’t even consume 1/3 of that RDA.

Low fiber diets cause chronic disease and ultimately early death. A healthy gut can process fiber with minimal gastrointestinal distress, once it has adjusted from eating the typical toxic sugar laden fatty sludge diet that most Americans are eating.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 14:09     Subject: How do you get enough fiber?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You clearly have never experienced chronic constipation.


Fiber is not the miracle cure you think it is. It's actually causing a lot of irritation. Fix your poor diet and get off the medications that are actually causing your symptoms

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3435786/



I will see your single paper published in 2012 that sampled 63 people, and raise you the following pieces on the benefits of fiber all from the last five years:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7589116/
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/10/231024234015.htm
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19335713/
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 14:03     Subject: How do you get enough fiber?

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Anonymous wrote:Do you all realize fiber is completely useless? The body literally rejects every bit of it. It causes you to have a lot of gas and super powerful bowels movements. Your body is saying get this stuff out of me, it's irritating me


You so silly.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/blog.bioticsresearch.com/can-fiber-worsen-constipation%3fhs_amp=true


I'm not sure what you think you are conveying here. This is a link to a website by a company that self-characterizes as "not just another supplements company" that sells a variety of products for "Digestive health" INCLUDING two that it links for sale at the bottom of this article.

Also this from the article you cited: "Assuming a “normal” response to increased dietary fiber, it makes sense to recommend this for patients with constipation."
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 13:38     Subject: How do you get enough fiber?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you all realize fiber is completely useless? The body literally rejects every bit of it. It causes you to have a lot of gas and super powerful bowels movements. Your body is saying get this stuff out of me, it's irritating me


You so silly.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/blog.bioticsresearch.com/can-fiber-worsen-constipation%3fhs_amp=true
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 13:34     Subject: How do you get enough fiber?

Anonymous wrote:You clearly have never experienced chronic constipation.


Fiber is not the miracle cure you think it is. It's actually causing a lot of irritation. Fix your poor diet and get off the medications that are actually causing your symptoms

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3435786/

Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 13:26     Subject: How do you get enough fiber?

Anonymous wrote:Do you all realize fiber is completely useless? The body literally rejects every bit of it. It causes you to have a lot of gas and super powerful bowels movements. Your body is saying get this stuff out of me, it's irritating me


You so silly.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 13:26     Subject: How do you get enough fiber?

Anonymous wrote:Do you all realize fiber is completely useless? The body literally rejects every bit of it. It causes you to have a lot of gas and super powerful bowels movements. Your body is saying get this stuff out of me, it's irritating me


I thought everyone knew by now that the whole fiber thing was started by Kellogs to sell products.

https://www.diagnosisdiet.com/full-article/fiber
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 13:26     Subject: How do you get enough fiber?

You clearly have never experienced chronic constipation.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2024 13:20     Subject: How do you get enough fiber?

Do you all realize fiber is completely useless? The body literally rejects every bit of it. It causes you to have a lot of gas and super powerful bowels movements. Your body is saying get this stuff out of me, it's irritating me