Anonymous wrote:because it's not a serious major. It's a vocational focused major, not the liberal arts.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think people who major in those fields are typically thinking of law school, but instead of employment in the criminal justice system as something other than as an attorney. Some may in fact choose to later go on to law school, but likely at non T-14 schools which are less expensive, and often through part-time programs while employed in law enforcement.

Few people in federal law enforcement or in the intelligence community choose such majors, they are much or common at the state and local agency level. My colleagues in those environments had degrees, often advanced, in pretty much everything under the sun, including medical doctors, J.D.s, and Ph.D scientists. Still, I don't believe I knew anyone who, to my knowledge, majored in criminal justice or criminology, although some did major in sociology.

Criminal justice is #1 popular major for FBI agent.
https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/finding-a-job/what-degree-does-fbi-agent-need

Cool, now do AUSA. It's a vocational degree that doesn't require the kind of research writing or analysis that most people with an eye on law school choose for their majors

funny, given that someone up thread stated that law school is basically a vocational school.

So is med school. So is engineering. So what?

oh ho, but on other threads some posters look down on "vocational" degrees like CS. I'll be sure to always respond with "law degrees are also vocational degrees".

And the ^PP claims "criminal justice" is a vocational degree, as well.

So we agree, these are all "vocational degrees".

There is a difference between a vocational and a pre-professional degree. CS is pre-professional. Criminology is vocational.

I don't understand the distinction you're making. What's the difference? Why is CS "pre-professional" and CJ "vocational"?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think people who major in those fields are typically thinking of law school, but instead of employment in the criminal justice system as something other than as an attorney. Some may in fact choose to later go on to law school, but likely at non T-14 schools which are less expensive, and often through part-time programs while employed in law enforcement.

Few people in federal law enforcement or in the intelligence community choose such majors, they are much or common at the state and local agency level. My colleagues in those environments had degrees, often advanced, in pretty much everything under the sun, including medical doctors, J.D.s, and Ph.D scientists. Still, I don't believe I knew anyone who, to my knowledge, majored in criminal justice or criminology, although some did major in sociology.

Criminal justice is #1 popular major for FBI agent.
https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/finding-a-job/what-degree-does-fbi-agent-need

Cool, now do AUSA. It's a vocational degree that doesn't require the kind of research writing or analysis that most people with an eye on law school choose for their majors

funny, given that someone up thread stated that law school is basically a vocational school.

So is med school. So is engineering. So what?

oh ho, but on other threads some posters look down on "vocational" degrees like CS. I'll be sure to always respond with "law degrees are also vocational degrees".

And the ^PP claims "criminal justice" is a vocational degree, as well.

So we agree, these are all "vocational degrees".

There is a difference between a vocational and a pre-professional degree. CS is pre-professional. Criminology is vocational.

Anonymous wrote:No law school is looking down on any particular college major. Criminal Justice & Criminology majors tend to do poorly on the LSAT exam so they are not competitive applicants for the top law schools.

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a great major if you are interested in becoming FBI, CIA, or law officer moving up to chief, director, etc., and also bunch of government agencies and moving up. If you go to top school and major in criminal justice, you will have much better chance in those areas.

Sounds better than most humanities majors.

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Anonymous wrote:You need a brain to go to law school.
Enough said.

Not as much of one as you might imagine.

—a lawyer

Agreed. Most lawyers I know just aren't that smart. They're average people who are good at taking that test and at knowing how to study for certain kinds of tests.

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Anonymous wrote:You need a brain to go to law school.
Enough said.

Not as much of one as you might imagine.

—a lawyer

Anonymous wrote:From Harvard Law's Website:

"Harvard Law School considers applications from all undergraduate majors. There are no fixed requirements with respect to the content of pre-legal education. The nature of a candidate’s college work, as well as the quality of academic performance, are reviewed in the selection process. However, in preparing for law school, a broad college education is usually preferable to one that is narrowly specialized. The Admissions Committee looks for a showing of thorough learning in a field of your choice, such as history, economics, government, philosophy, mathematics, science, literature or the classics (and many others), rather than a concentration in courses given primarily as vocational training."

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a great major if you are interested in becoming FBI, CIA, or law officer moving up to chief, director, etc., and also bunch of government agencies and moving up. If you go to top school and major in criminal justice, you will have much better chance in those areas.

Sounds better than most humanities majors.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think people who major in those fields are typically thinking of law school, but instead of employment in the criminal justice system as something other than as an attorney. Some may in fact choose to later go on to law school, but likely at non T-14 schools which are less expensive, and often through part-time programs while employed in law enforcement.

Few people in federal law enforcement or in the intelligence community choose such majors, they are much or common at the state and local agency level. My colleagues in those environments had degrees, often advanced, in pretty much everything under the sun, including medical doctors, J.D.s, and Ph.D scientists. Still, I don't believe I knew anyone who, to my knowledge, majored in criminal justice or criminology, although some did major in sociology.

Criminal justice is #1 popular major for FBI agent.
https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/finding-a-job/what-degree-does-fbi-agent-need

Cool, now do AUSA. It's a vocational degree that doesn't require the kind of research writing or analysis that most people with an eye on law school choose for their majors

funny, given that someone up thread stated that law school is basically a vocational school.

So is med school. So is engineering. So what?

oh ho, but on other threads some posters look down on "vocational" degrees like CS. I'll be sure to always respond with "law degrees are also vocational degrees".

And the ^PP claims "criminal justice" is a vocational degree, as well.

So we agree, these are all "vocational degrees".

Anonymous wrote:Why are they as rare as hen's teeth at Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Chicago, Stanford etc.?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think people who major in those fields are typically thinking of law school, but instead of employment in the criminal justice system as something other than as an attorney. Some may in fact choose to later go on to law school, but likely at non T-14 schools which are less expensive, and often through part-time programs while employed in law enforcement.

Few people in federal law enforcement or in the intelligence community choose such majors, they are much or common at the state and local agency level. My colleagues in those environments had degrees, often advanced, in pretty much everything under the sun, including medical doctors, J.D.s, and Ph.D scientists. Still, I don't believe I knew anyone who, to my knowledge, majored in criminal justice or criminology, although some did major in sociology.

Criminal justice is #1 popular major for FBI agent.
https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/finding-a-job/what-degree-does-fbi-agent-need

Cool, now do AUSA. It's a vocational degree that doesn't require the kind of research writing or analysis that most people with an eye on law school choose for their majors

funny, given that someone up thread stated that law school is basically a vocational school.

So is med school. So is engineering. So what?

oh ho, but on other threads some posters look down on "vocational" degrees like CS. I'll be sure to always respond with "law degrees are also vocational degrees".

And the ^PP claims "criminal justice" is a vocational degree, as well.

So we agree, these are all "vocational degrees".

Right, and what really is the point of any major or masters/professional/doctorate degree if it isn’t going to prepare you for a vocation? I don’t know understand people keep bringing this up as if it’s a bad thing.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think people who major in those fields are typically thinking of law school, but instead of employment in the criminal justice system as something other than as an attorney. Some may in fact choose to later go on to law school, but likely at non T-14 schools which are less expensive, and often through part-time programs while employed in law enforcement.

Few people in federal law enforcement or in the intelligence community choose such majors, they are much or common at the state and local agency level. My colleagues in those environments had degrees, often advanced, in pretty much everything under the sun, including medical doctors, J.D.s, and Ph.D scientists. Still, I don't believe I knew anyone who, to my knowledge, majored in criminal justice or criminology, although some did major in sociology.

Criminal justice is #1 popular major for FBI agent.
https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/finding-a-job/what-degree-does-fbi-agent-need

Cool, now do AUSA. It's a vocational degree that doesn't require the kind of research writing or analysis that most people with an eye on law school choose for their majors

funny, given that someone up thread stated that law school is basically a vocational school.

So is med school. So is engineering. So what?

oh ho, but on other threads some posters look down on "vocational" degrees like CS. I'll be sure to always respond with "law degrees are also vocational degrees".

And the ^PP claims "criminal justice" is a vocational degree, as well.

So we agree, these are all "vocational degrees".