Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still cannot believe this is real. This is so unsafe. Catastrophic SCI is a lifelong life altering injury.

I’m a USA swimming certified official and anything less than 4’ must be an in water start. (Rule 103.2)

Swimmers who have not yet learned a shallow racing dive must practice in 6’ of water. That practice begins with deck starts. These are summer swimmers. Not all are as proficient as year round swimmers with years of experience.

If I had a child in this meet I would absolutely pull them.

I’m certified as a starter in my summer league and also USAS and if I were an NVSL official I would refuse to work this meet. I would seriously question if my umbrella liability policy would cover me if an injury occurred because I consider forward deck starts into 2.5” grossly negligent.

Are they diving off of blocks?

Did you read the rule?

i think you didn’t read the rule, so I will help your lazy a**.

In pools with water depth less than 4’ at the starting end, the swimmer must start in the water.

But it’s totally cool for this meet only because some random Fairfax County resident knows more than an entire national sport federation.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New Poster - I have a swimmer in all stars and yes, I think it’s unsafe to dive in 2.5ft.

As a former NVSL swimmer with kids now on NVSL, I’m shocked all stars is at Pinecrest. No shade to Pinecrest, lovely community and appreciate them stepping up and hosting. Yes, I could pull my child from the meet, but it’s the first time they made it and they are super excited. Child is practicing shallow dives all week and praying no child is injured at the event.

Unless your swimmer is in lane 6 the start won’t be 2.5’ deep.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still cannot believe this is real. This is so unsafe. Catastrophic SCI is a lifelong life altering injury.

I’m a USA swimming certified official and anything less than 4’ must be an in water start. (Rule 103.2)

Swimmers who have not yet learned a shallow racing dive must practice in 6’ of water. That practice begins with deck starts. These are summer swimmers. Not all are as proficient as year round swimmers with years of experience.

If I had a child in this meet I would absolutely pull them.

I’m certified as a starter in my summer league and also USAS and if I were an NVSL official I would refuse to work this meet. I would seriously question if my umbrella liability policy would cover me if an injury occurred because I consider forward deck starts into 2.5” grossly negligent.

Are they diving off of blocks?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New Poster - I have a swimmer in all stars and yes, I think it’s unsafe to dive in 2.5ft.

As a former NVSL swimmer with kids now on NVSL, I’m shocked all stars is at Pinecrest. No shade to Pinecrest, lovely community and appreciate them stepping up and hosting. Yes, I could pull my child from the meet, but it’s the first time they made it and they are super excited. Child is practicing shallow dives all week and praying no child is injured at the event.

Unless your swimmer is in lane 6 the start won’t be 2.5’ deep.

Anonymous wrote:I still cannot believe this is real. This is so unsafe. Catastrophic SCI is a lifelong life altering injury.

I’m a USA swimming certified official and anything less than 4’ must be an in water start. (Rule 103.2)

Swimmers who have not yet learned a shallow racing dive must practice in 6’ of water. That practice begins with deck starts. These are summer swimmers. Not all are as proficient as year round swimmers with years of experience.

If I had a child in this meet I would absolutely pull them.

I’m certified as a starter in my summer league and also USAS and if I were an NVSL official I would refuse to work this meet. I would seriously question if my umbrella liability policy would cover me if an injury occurred because I consider forward deck starts into 2.5” grossly negligent.

Anonymous wrote:I still cannot believe this is real. This is so unsafe. Catastrophic SCI is a lifelong life altering injury.

I’m a USA swimming certified official and anything less than 4’ must be an in water start. (Rule 103.2)

Swimmers who have not yet learned a shallow racing dive must practice in 6’ of water. That practice begins with deck starts. These are summer swimmers. Not all are as proficient as year round swimmers with years of experience.

If I had a child in this meet I would absolutely pull them.

I’m certified as a starter in my summer league and also USAS and if I were an NVSL official I would refuse to work this meet. I would seriously question if my umbrella liability policy would cover me if an injury occurred because I consider forward deck starts into 2.5” grossly negligent.

Anonymous wrote:New Poster - I have a swimmer in all stars and yes, I think it’s unsafe to dive in 2.5ft.

As a former NVSL swimmer with kids now on NVSL, I’m shocked all stars is at Pinecrest. No shade to Pinecrest, lovely community and appreciate them stepping up and hosting. Yes, I could pull my child from the meet, but it’s the first time they made it and they are super excited. Child is practicing shallow dives all week and praying no child is injured at the event.

Anonymous wrote:I still cannot believe this is real. This is so unsafe. Catastrophic SCI is a lifelong life altering injury.

I’m a USA swimming certified official and anything less than 4’ must be an in water start. (Rule 103.2)

Swimmers who have not yet learned a shallow racing dive must practice in 6’ of water. That practice begins with deck starts. These are summer swimmers. Not all are as proficient as year round swimmers with years of experience.

If I had a child in this meet I would absolutely pull them.

I’m certified as a starter in my summer league and also USAS and if I were an NVSL official I would refuse to work this meet. I would seriously question if my umbrella liability policy would cover me if an injury occurred because I consider forward deck starts into 2.5” grossly negligent.

Anonymous wrote:
I'm beginnging to feel like many posters are convinced something is going to happen. And perhaps actually want it to happen so that they can say - SEE! WE TOLD YOU!

Where were you people when it was announced a year ago that Pinecrest was going to be the pool for All Stars?

Pinecrest hosted Divisionals last year so at least 5 other pools in Division 6 have known about the pool depth.

Heck, a previous post said Pinecrest has been in Divisions 4-7 the last 10 years so that's a lot of other pools in the top 7 Divisions that have been fully aware of what it is to swim at Pinecrest.

This seems a little hysterical at this point. If you don'y feel comfortable -- don't work, don't swim, and don't come to watch. I'm sure the results of the meet activity will be shared here to catch you up on the spectacle.

And maybe, just maybe another pool will step up for next year.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still cannot believe this is real. This is so unsafe. Catastrophic SCI is a lifelong life altering injury.

I’m a USA swimming certified official and anything less than 4’ must be an in water start. (Rule 103.2)

Swimmers who have not yet learned a shallow racing dive must practice in 6’ of water. That practice begins with deck starts. These are summer swimmers. Not all are as proficient as year round swimmers with years of experience.

If I had a child in this meet I would absolutely pull them.

I’m certified as a starter in my summer league and also USAS and if I were an NVSL official I would refuse to work this meet. I would seriously question if my umbrella liability policy would cover me if an injury occurred because I consider forward deck starts into 2.5” grossly negligent.

The French Olympic pool has less than 3 foot starts at 80 cm. Not ideal. But it is not just Pinecrest.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still cannot believe this is real. This is so unsafe. Catastrophic SCI is a lifelong life altering injury.

I’m a USA swimming certified official and anything less than 4’ must be an in water start. (Rule 103.2)

Swimmers who have not yet learned a shallow racing dive must practice in 6’ of water. That practice begins with deck starts. These are summer swimmers. Not all are as proficient as year round swimmers with years of experience.

If I had a child in this meet I would absolutely pull them.

I’m certified as a starter in my summer league and also USAS and if I were an NVSL official I would refuse to work this meet. I would seriously question if my umbrella liability policy would cover me if an injury occurred because I consider forward deck starts into 2.5” grossly negligent.

The French Olympic pool has less than 3 foot starts at 80 cm. Not ideal. But it is not just Pinecrest.

Anonymous wrote:I still cannot believe this is real. This is so unsafe. Catastrophic SCI is a lifelong life altering injury.

I’m a USA swimming certified official and anything less than 4’ must be an in water start. (Rule 103.2)

Swimmers who have not yet learned a shallow racing dive must practice in 6’ of water. That practice begins with deck starts. These are summer swimmers. Not all are as proficient as year round swimmers with years of experience.

If I had a child in this meet I would absolutely pull them.

I’m certified as a starter in my summer league and also USAS and if I were an NVSL official I would refuse to work this meet. I would seriously question if my umbrella liability policy would cover me if an injury occurred because I consider forward deck starts into 2.5” grossly negligent.