Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 20:13     Subject: It's out! GOP 2024 Platform Now Available

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^ And before you wail about the last sentence, above, note that there are *already* protections for just about every other religious group.


There are “Federal Task Force” already fighting bias against non-Christian religions?


Um, yes? Have you been living under a rock?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/white-house-works-new-measures-counter-islamophobia-2023-11-01/
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 19:42     Subject: It's out! GOP 2024 Platform Now Available

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It's a fairly short read with lots of helpful CAPS and Capped Nouns.
https://media.washtimes.com/media/misc/2024/07/08/2024-gop-platform-july-7-final.pdf



OP here with some context. There are two significant departures from standard Republican positions on abortion and same-sex marriage, in response to Trump's requests that the language be softened to attract more voters.

"The Republican Party’s current policy platform, unchanged since 2016 after the party skipped the platform process during the pandemic in 2020, says the GOP supports a “human life amendment” to the U.S. Constitution. The proposed changes this year say that the 14th Amendment inherently offers protections for life at conception and that “states are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights.” It represents a significant switch for the Republican Party, which has been grappling with how to handle its stance on abortion since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, pitting social conservatives against figures more worried about the political implications of the party’s position.

On same-sex marriage, the Trump-aligned platform committee also approved changes opposed by social conservative in the party. The new proposed platform removes language that says marriage is 'between one man and one woman, and is the foundation for a free society'. It was replaced by language that says the party instead promotes a “culture that values the Sanctity of Marriage, the blessing of childhood, the foundational role of family, and supports working parents.” The new proposed platform does not include mention of 'one man and one woman'."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-pushes-new-gop-platform-softening-partys-positions-abortion-sex-rcna160730


I can get behind this.


Sure thats great for you. But why do you feel the need to make these national-level policies? This is the problem with Christian Nationalism. Its not about you or your beliefs, its about dominance and power and making others adhere to your beliefs which is hypocrisy at its finest because most Christians dont even follow their own rules.


DP. Where, in this platform, is "Christian Nationalism" mentioned or even alluded to?

Republicans Will Defend Religious Liberty We are the defenders of the First Amendment Right to Religious Liberty. It protects the Right not only to Worship according to the dictates of Conscience, but also to act in accordance with those Beliefs, not just in places of Worship, but in everyday life. Our ranks include men and women from every Faith and Tradition, and we respect the Right of every American to follow his or her deeply held Beliefs. To protect Religious Liberty, Republicans support a new Federal Task Force on Fighting Anti-Christian Bias that will investigate all forms of illegal discrimination, harassment, and persecution against Christians in America.


That is why Trump told 2 Congresswomen to go back where they came from? Because Trump so deeply respects all these groups? Please.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 19:39     Subject: It's out! GOP 2024 Platform Now Available

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is good that Trump is moving the GOP to the left on abortion. The right should focus on advocating for their side having 3+ kids instead of putting so much energy into restricting abortions for the pro-choice folks.

Again for some of you in the back: There’s no “moving to the left” on abortion policy. The GOP’s interpretation is that the 14th Amendment protects embryos, and that’s a de jure and de facto ban on abortion, IVF, certain forms of contraception and who knows what else they can dream up.


Wrong. He clearly says he is leaving the abortion decision to the individual states, where it belongs. He also fully supports contraception. Do continue lying though. Now everyone can easily call you out on it.

Republicans Will Protect and Defend a Vote of the People, from within the States, on the Issue of Life We proudly stand for families and Life. We believe that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees that no person can be denied Life or Liberty without Due Process, and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights. After 51 years, because of us, that power has been given to the States and to a vote of the People. We will oppose Late Term Abortion, while supporting mothers and policies that advance Prenatal Care, access to Birth Control, and IVF (fertility treatments.)

You bolded the wrong parts. What they have to say about the 14th Amendment - which I helpfully bolded here for you, puts the kibosh on anything a woman or her fertility clinic wants to do with her own embryos.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 19:35     Subject: It's out! GOP 2024 Platform Now Available

Anonymous wrote:^^ And before you wail about the last sentence, above, note that there are *already* protections for just about every other religious group.


There are “Federal Task Force” already fighting bias against non-Christian religions?
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 18:17     Subject: It's out! GOP 2024 Platform Now Available

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is good that Trump is moving the GOP to the left on abortion. The right should focus on advocating for their side having 3+ kids instead of putting so much energy into restricting abortions for the pro-choice folks.

Again for some of you in the back: There’s no “moving to the left” on abortion policy. The GOP’s interpretation is that the 14th Amendment protects embryos, and that’s a de jure and de facto ban on abortion, IVF, certain forms of contraception and who knows what else they can dream up.


Wrong. He clearly says he is leaving the abortion decision to the individual states, where it belongs. He also fully supports contraception. Do continue lying though. Now everyone can easily call you out on it.

Republicans Will Protect and Defend a Vote of the People, from within the States, on the Issue of Life We proudly stand for families and Life. We believe that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees that no person can be denied Life or Liberty without Due Process, and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights. After 51 years, because of us, that power has been given to the States and to a vote of the People. We will oppose Late Term Abortion, while supporting mothers and policies that advance Prenatal Care, access to Birth Control, and IVF (fertility treatments).
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 18:11     Subject: It's out! GOP 2024 Platform Now Available

^^ And before you wail about the last sentence, above, note that there are *already* protections for just about every other religious group.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 18:10     Subject: It's out! GOP 2024 Platform Now Available

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It's a fairly short read with lots of helpful CAPS and Capped Nouns.
https://media.washtimes.com/media/misc/2024/07/08/2024-gop-platform-july-7-final.pdf



OP here with some context. There are two significant departures from standard Republican positions on abortion and same-sex marriage, in response to Trump's requests that the language be softened to attract more voters.

"The Republican Party’s current policy platform, unchanged since 2016 after the party skipped the platform process during the pandemic in 2020, says the GOP supports a “human life amendment” to the U.S. Constitution. The proposed changes this year say that the 14th Amendment inherently offers protections for life at conception and that “states are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights.” It represents a significant switch for the Republican Party, which has been grappling with how to handle its stance on abortion since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, pitting social conservatives against figures more worried about the political implications of the party’s position.

On same-sex marriage, the Trump-aligned platform committee also approved changes opposed by social conservative in the party. The new proposed platform removes language that says marriage is 'between one man and one woman, and is the foundation for a free society'. It was replaced by language that says the party instead promotes a “culture that values the Sanctity of Marriage, the blessing of childhood, the foundational role of family, and supports working parents.” The new proposed platform does not include mention of 'one man and one woman'."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-pushes-new-gop-platform-softening-partys-positions-abortion-sex-rcna160730


I can get behind this.


Sure thats great for you. But why do you feel the need to make these national-level policies? This is the problem with Christian Nationalism. Its not about you or your beliefs, its about dominance and power and making others adhere to your beliefs which is hypocrisy at its finest because most Christians dont even follow their own rules.


DP. Where, in this platform, is "Christian Nationalism" mentioned or even alluded to?

Republicans Will Defend Religious Liberty We are the defenders of the First Amendment Right to Religious Liberty. It protects the Right not only to Worship according to the dictates of Conscience, but also to act in accordance with those Beliefs, not just in places of Worship, but in everyday life. Our ranks include men and women from every Faith and Tradition, and we respect the Right of every American to follow his or her deeply held Beliefs. To protect Religious Liberty, Republicans support a new Federal Task Force on Fighting Anti-Christian Bias that will investigate all forms of illegal discrimination, harassment, and persecution against Christians in America.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 18:07     Subject: Re:It's out! GOP 2024 Platform Now Available

Anonymous wrote:Wait, what? Just an outright lie, but ok.
14. FIGHT FOR AND PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE WITH NO CUTS, INCLUDING NO
CHANGES TO THE RETIREMENT AGE"


But you can't tell us *how* this is a lie. Got it.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 18:05     Subject: It's out! GOP 2024 Platform Now Available

Anonymous wrote:They sure had to rush this out. I guess it was too apparent that Trump did whatever Heritage and the Federalists told Trump do and he would do the exact same thing again.

One does not create lists of extremists willing to come take over formerly non political jobs and just be horsing around hoping that the orange fascist listens.

Plus several points on this document show that it’s just a lie.


Such as?
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 18:03     Subject: It's out! GOP 2024 Platform Now Available

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just read the entire platform. With the exception of some of the wording and of course, the random capitalization, I agree with everything. I suggest everyone actually read it themselves rather than take the word of some of the lunatics here who make up nonsense that isn’t a part of this platform all.

Such as?


Some were insisting Medicare would be cut. Lie.

CHAPTER SIX: PROTECT SENIORS Our Commitment: President Trump has made absolutely clear that he will not cut one penny from Medicare or Social Security. American Citizens work hard their whole lives, contributing to Social Security and Medicare. These programs are promises to our Seniors, ensuring they can live their golden years with dignity. Republicans will protect these vital programs and ensure Economic Stability. We will work with our Great Seniors, in order to allow them to be active and healthy. We commit to safeguarding the future for our Seniors and all American families.
1. Protect Social Security Social Security is a lifeline for millions of Retirees, yet corrupt politicians have robbed Social Security to fund their pet projects. Republicans will restore Economic Stability to ensure the long-term sustainability of Social Security.
2. Strengthen Medicare Republicans will protect Medicare’s finances from being financially crushed by the Democrat plan to add tens of millions of new illegal immigrants to the rolls of Medicare. We vow to strengthen Medicare for future generations.
3. Support Active and Healthy Living Republicans will support increased focus on Chronic Disease prevention and management, Long-Term Care, and Benefit flexibility. We will expand access to Primary Care and support Policies that help Seniors remain in their homes and maintain Financial Security.
4. Protect Care at Home for the Elderly Republicans will shift resources back to at-home Senior Care, overturn disincentives that lead to Care Worker shortages, and support unpaid Family Caregivers through Tax Credits and reduced red tape.
5. Protect Economic Foundations for Supporting Seniors Republicans will tackle Inflation, unleash American Energy, restore Economic Growth, and secure our Borders to preserve Social Security and Medicare funding for the next Generation and beyond. We will ensure these programs remain solvent long into the future by reversing harmful Democrat policies and unleashing a new Economic Boom.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 17:37     Subject: It's out! GOP 2024 Platform Now Available

Anonymous wrote:I just read the entire platform. With the exception of some of the wording and of course, the random capitalization, I agree with everything. I suggest everyone actually read it themselves rather than take the word of some of the lunatics here who make up nonsense that isn’t a part of this platform all.

Such as?
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 17:37     Subject: It's out! GOP 2024 Platform Now Available

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So basically a bunch of generic mish-mosh that "both sides" can read as they want.

Sorry, Project2025 is the agenda. That is what the public needs to understand.


The neocon Bush-Heritage Foundation committed fraud by attaching Trump's name to their desired policies, many of those policies happen to be "Americans LAST".


81% of Project 25’s creators held formal roles in Trump’s presidency. Trump’s, not Bush’s.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/08/trump-project-2025?CMP=share_btn_url


Project 25 has serial traitors like Ken Cucinelli on its board. It's no ally to Trump and likely a hostile movement intended to harm him.


Hahahahahahahaha. That's why he appointed Ken Cuccinelli to his administration last time?


Trump apparently doesn’t know any of the people that were running his administration.

His dementia is no joke; he legitimately might not know who the heck he appointed back in the day.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 17:32     Subject: It's out! GOP 2024 Platform Now Available

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It's a fairly short read with lots of helpful CAPS and Capped Nouns.
https://media.washtimes.com/media/misc/2024/07/08/2024-gop-platform-july-7-final.pdf



Great, from now on, quote from this platform and NOT Project 2025.


No, they don't get to decide that we'll no longer pay attention to the 900 page policy platform instead of the two pager scrawled with crayons on some scrap paper

Use some d**n judgment


Clearly, you have no idea how utterly insane you sound. Do keep it up - you’re really winning people over.
DP


I'm not trying to win you over, obviously. I am also not going to lie down and pretend that you people don't want to destroy my country.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 17:31     Subject: It's out! GOP 2024 Platform Now Available

Anonymous wrote:I think Ivanka has been a positive influence on her dad. I’m betting she may have changed his mind on a few matters to a more sane and rational stance than the GOP extremists.


“Daddy, I had an abortion when I was in high school”
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2024 17:29     Subject: It's out! GOP 2024 Platform Now Available

I just read the entire platform. With the exception of some of the wording and of course, the random capitalization, I agree with everything. I suggest everyone actually read it themselves rather than take the word of some of the lunatics here who make up nonsense that isn’t a part of this platform all.