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Post 07/05/2024 12:57     Subject: Opinions on USMNT out of Copa America

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Anonymous wrote:If that’s all you saw, you don’t understand the game.


Care to respond to my actual statement without a pompous redefinition? Do you agree that Uruguay is an athletic and running team or not?


Which team doesn't have athletic players?


USMNT


I agree with this completely. If you think Tyler, Weston and Musah are athletic midfielders, you don't know what athletic means. The centerbacks are even worse (though with Ream, that is a function of age). Uruguay has multiple players head and shoulders above anybody on the US team; they are also more athletic. I don't know what "running" team means at all.


Name some of history's top rated Midfielders
Think Spain, Holland, Germany, Brazil, Croatia, Argentina....
How many of them were/are more 'athletic' than the USA Midfielders


People like modric are more athletic. The us Mids are not athletic. Have had weight issues. Worse many have had discipline/professionalism issues. Marsh is right.
Berhalter is playing same guys in same formations and getting same results over and over.

USMNT gets outworked by other teams.


LOL .... Little Luca Modric is more athletic than Tyler Adams?

This ignorance has no limits

That aside, athleticism is/has never been listed as top requirement for great Midfielders.
IQ, Vision, Decision Making, Technical Skills all come before


Yes Luca Modric is more athletic than all three US starters, at least when he was 30-35. And little Leo Messi was one of the best athletes in his prime with respect to both speed and balance. Height is not athleticism. Those other qualities are essential and more important, and unfortunately we are lacking there as well, at least relative to top flight national sides.


Where are the US Midfielders playing their club ball?

If we are to listen to the DCUM expertise on how low level they all are, how are they fooling coaches, GM's and owners of these division 1 clubs in Europe?


Adams played 3 games for Bournemouth last season, yes hurt, but that's not playing.
Musah and Pulisic play well for AC Milan, but has to be said they did not succeed in Premier League
Weah same Juventus, not a success or desired elsewhere
McKennie same italian, was a failure at Leeds
Reyna plays where exactly??? 20 league games over last 2 years at Dortmund and Nottingham = 0 goals or add 4 extra nonleague games still = 0 goals

these 6 are the core of Berhalter's world, the players are calling to support GB now because if GB goes likely their untouchable roles do as well

Dest when healthy is a player but is a wingback


So AC Milan and Juventus are small clubs in Europe who are desperate and have no choice but to scrape the bottom of the barrel for our rec league US boys?


you fail to see the differences between adequate and good, Pulisic is an adequate professional left wing. He is not world class. Yet he is the best American player. The US' golden generation is only golden compared to US. Adams, McKennie, Weah, Pulisic, Musah and Reyna are meh. Led by GB they are even more meh Your post really proves the point. AC Milan and Juventus play tougher matches and competition than the USMNT usually does with its cupcakes in CONCACAF. the US players are not the stars at those clubs, just complementary pieces. the US players do better against weak national team competition, although lately they dont even do that Pulisic is a solid pro, but not a star except on US team against weaker competition. US cant even advance in Copa let alone Euros or world cup

there is enough of statistical data on these guys to show what they really are, Pulisic is the only one of a significant caliber pro as a difference maker, Reyna had promise and maybe still does

McKennie 198 professional matches 13 goals USA 56 matches 11 goals
Pulisic 224 pro matches 45 goals USA 71 matches 30 goals
Adams 194 pro matches 3 goals USA 42 matches 2 goals
Musah 141 pro matches 3 goals USA 39 matches 0 goals
Weah 137 pro matches 10 goals (0 with Juventus) USA 41 matches 6 goals
Reyna 99 pro matches 13 goals USA 31 matches 8 goals








No need to read your entire diatribe dissertation.
There are only a few world class players in professional football

Adequate doesn't have you playing at AC Milan or Juventus or Premier League
Adequate doesn't have McKennie considered by most the best Midfielder in Serie A last season

Stats are used to tell whatever story and narrative you choose.
It's not track & field. Not just about numbers (only 1 international goal for Bernardo Silva a top player)


He’s not even the best midfielder on his team (Rabiot). He had a lot better year than when at Leeds, but he is in a far lower category than Barella, Calhanoglu, Rabiot, or Zelinski. And he has weight issue


>"USA international Weston McKennie enjoyed a strong showing for Juventus this season, being one of the most-used players in the squad while churning out assists on the regular. With 2950 minutes spent on the pitch, he was the sixth-most used player on the team, yet topped the charts in terms of assists, reaching double figures with 10 decisive passes for teammates to score off across the campaign"<
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Post 07/05/2024 12:29     Subject: Opinions on USMNT out of Copa America

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Anonymous wrote:If that’s all you saw, you don’t understand the game.


Care to respond to my actual statement without a pompous redefinition? Do you agree that Uruguay is an athletic and running team or not?


Which team doesn't have athletic players?


USMNT


I agree with this completely. If you think Tyler, Weston and Musah are athletic midfielders, you don't know what athletic means. The centerbacks are even worse (though with Ream, that is a function of age). Uruguay has multiple players head and shoulders above anybody on the US team; they are also more athletic. I don't know what "running" team means at all.


Name some of history's top rated Midfielders
Think Spain, Holland, Germany, Brazil, Croatia, Argentina....
How many of them were/are more 'athletic' than the USA Midfielders


People like modric are more athletic. The us Mids are not athletic. Have had weight issues. Worse many have had discipline/professionalism issues. Marsh is right.
Berhalter is playing same guys in same formations and getting same results over and over.

USMNT gets outworked by other teams.


LOL .... Little Luca Modric is more athletic than Tyler Adams?

This ignorance has no limits

That aside, athleticism is/has never been listed as top requirement for great Midfielders.
IQ, Vision, Decision Making, Technical Skills all come before


Yes Luca Modric is more athletic than all three US starters, at least when he was 30-35. And little Leo Messi was one of the best athletes in his prime with respect to both speed and balance. Height is not athleticism. Those other qualities are essential and more important, and unfortunately we are lacking there as well, at least relative to top flight national sides.


Where are the US Midfielders playing their club ball?

If we are to listen to the DCUM expertise on how low level they all are, how are they fooling coaches, GM's and owners of these division 1 clubs in Europe?


Adams played 3 games for Bournemouth last season, yes hurt, but that's not playing.
Musah and Pulisic play well for AC Milan, but has to be said they did not succeed in Premier League
Weah same Juventus, not a success or desired elsewhere
McKennie same italian, was a failure at Leeds
Reyna plays where exactly??? 20 league games over last 2 years at Dortmund and Nottingham = 0 goals or add 4 extra nonleague games still = 0 goals

these 6 are the core of Berhalter's world, the players are calling to support GB now because if GB goes likely their untouchable roles do as well

Dest when healthy is a player but is a wingback


So AC Milan and Juventus are small clubs in Europe who are desperate and have no choice but to scrape the bottom of the barrel for our rec league US boys?


you fail to see the differences between adequate and good, Pulisic is an adequate professional left wing. He is not world class. Yet he is the best American player. The US' golden generation is only golden compared to US. Adams, McKennie, Weah, Pulisic, Musah and Reyna are meh. Led by GB they are even more meh Your post really proves the point. AC Milan and Juventus play tougher matches and competition than the USMNT usually does with its cupcakes in CONCACAF. the US players are not the stars at those clubs, just complementary pieces. the US players do better against weak national team competition, although lately they dont even do that Pulisic is a solid pro, but not a star except on US team against weaker competition. US cant even advance in Copa let alone Euros or world cup

there is enough of statistical data on these guys to show what they really are, Pulisic is the only one of a significant caliber pro as a difference maker, Reyna had promise and maybe still does

McKennie 198 professional matches 13 goals USA 56 matches 11 goals
Pulisic 224 pro matches 45 goals USA 71 matches 30 goals
Adams 194 pro matches 3 goals USA 42 matches 2 goals
Musah 141 pro matches 3 goals USA 39 matches 0 goals
Weah 137 pro matches 10 goals (0 with Juventus) USA 41 matches 6 goals
Reyna 99 pro matches 13 goals USA 31 matches 8 goals








No need to read your entire diatribe dissertation.
There are only a few world class players in professional football

Adequate doesn't have you playing at AC Milan or Juventus or Premier League
Adequate doesn't have McKennie considered by most the best Midfielder in Serie A last season

Stats are used to tell whatever story and narrative you choose.
It's not track & field. Not just about numbers (only 1 international goal for Bernardo Silva a top player)


He’s not even the best midfielder on his team (Rabiot). He had a lot better year than when at Leeds, but he is in a far lower category than Barella, Calhanoglu, Rabiot, or Zelinski. And he has weight issue
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Post 07/05/2024 12:25     Subject: Opinions on USMNT out of Copa America

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Anonymous wrote:If that’s all you saw, you don’t understand the game.


Care to respond to my actual statement without a pompous redefinition? Do you agree that Uruguay is an athletic and running team or not?


Which team doesn't have athletic players?


USMNT


I agree with this completely. If you think Tyler, Weston and Musah are athletic midfielders, you don't know what athletic means. The centerbacks are even worse (though with Ream, that is a function of age). Uruguay has multiple players head and shoulders above anybody on the US team; they are also more athletic. I don't know what "running" team means at all.


Name some of history's top rated Midfielders
Think Spain, Holland, Germany, Brazil, Croatia, Argentina....
How many of them were/are more 'athletic' than the USA Midfielders


People like modric are more athletic. The us Mids are not athletic. Have had weight issues. Worse many have had discipline/professionalism issues. Marsh is right.
Berhalter is playing same guys in same formations and getting same results over and over.

USMNT gets outworked by other teams.


LOL .... Little Luca Modric is more athletic than Tyler Adams?

This ignorance has no limits

That aside, athleticism is/has never been listed as top requirement for great Midfielders.
IQ, Vision, Decision Making, Technical Skills all come before


Yes Luca Modric is more athletic than all three US starters, at least when he was 30-35. And little Leo Messi was one of the best athletes in his prime with respect to both speed and balance. Height is not athleticism. Those other qualities are essential and more important, and unfortunately we are lacking there as well, at least relative to top flight national sides.


Where are the US Midfielders playing their club ball?

If we are to listen to the DCUM expertise on how low level they all are, how are they fooling coaches, GM's and owners of these division 1 clubs in Europe?


Adams played 3 games for Bournemouth last season, yes hurt, but that's not playing.
Musah and Pulisic play well for AC Milan, but has to be said they did not succeed in Premier League
Weah same Juventus, not a success or desired elsewhere
McKennie same italian, was a failure at Leeds
Reyna plays where exactly??? 20 league games over last 2 years at Dortmund and Nottingham = 0 goals or add 4 extra nonleague games still = 0 goals

these 6 are the core of Berhalter's world, the players are calling to support GB now because if GB goes likely their untouchable roles do as well

Dest when healthy is a player but is a wingback


So AC Milan and Juventus are small clubs in Europe who are desperate and have no choice but to scrape the bottom of the barrel for our rec league US boys?


you fail to see the differences between adequate and good, Pulisic is an adequate professional left wing. He is not world class. Yet he is the best American player. The US' golden generation is only golden compared to US. Adams, McKennie, Weah, Pulisic, Musah and Reyna are meh. Led by GB they are even more meh Your post really proves the point. AC Milan and Juventus play tougher matches and competition than the USMNT usually does with its cupcakes in CONCACAF. the US players are not the stars at those clubs, just complementary pieces. the US players do better against weak national team competition, although lately they dont even do that Pulisic is a solid pro, but not a star except on US team against weaker competition. US cant even advance in Copa let alone Euros or world cup

there is enough of statistical data on these guys to show what they really are, Pulisic is the only one of a significant caliber pro as a difference maker, Reyna had promise and maybe still does

McKennie 198 professional matches 13 goals USA 56 matches 11 goals
Pulisic 224 pro matches 45 goals USA 71 matches 30 goals
Adams 194 pro matches 3 goals USA 42 matches 2 goals
Musah 141 pro matches 3 goals USA 39 matches 0 goals
Weah 137 pro matches 10 goals (0 with Juventus) USA 41 matches 6 goals
Reyna 99 pro matches 13 goals USA 31 matches 8 goals








No need to read your entire diatribe dissertation.
There are only a few world class players in professional football

Adequate doesn't have you playing at AC Milan or Juventus or Premier League
Adequate doesn't have McKennie considered by most the best Midfielder in Serie A last season

Stats are used to tell whatever story and narrative you choose.
It's not track & field. Not just about numbers (only 1 international goal for Bernardo Silva a top player)


what time is the USMNT quarterfinal on ??
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2024 12:12     Subject: Opinions on USMNT out of Copa America

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Anonymous wrote:If that’s all you saw, you don’t understand the game.


Care to respond to my actual statement without a pompous redefinition? Do you agree that Uruguay is an athletic and running team or not?


Which team doesn't have athletic players?


USMNT


I agree with this completely. If you think Tyler, Weston and Musah are athletic midfielders, you don't know what athletic means. The centerbacks are even worse (though with Ream, that is a function of age). Uruguay has multiple players head and shoulders above anybody on the US team; they are also more athletic. I don't know what "running" team means at all.


Name some of history's top rated Midfielders
Think Spain, Holland, Germany, Brazil, Croatia, Argentina....
How many of them were/are more 'athletic' than the USA Midfielders


People like modric are more athletic. The us Mids are not athletic. Have had weight issues. Worse many have had discipline/professionalism issues. Marsh is right.
Berhalter is playing same guys in same formations and getting same results over and over.

USMNT gets outworked by other teams.


LOL .... Little Luca Modric is more athletic than Tyler Adams?

This ignorance has no limits

That aside, athleticism is/has never been listed as top requirement for great Midfielders.
IQ, Vision, Decision Making, Technical Skills all come before


Yes Luca Modric is more athletic than all three US starters, at least when he was 30-35. And little Leo Messi was one of the best athletes in his prime with respect to both speed and balance. Height is not athleticism. Those other qualities are essential and more important, and unfortunately we are lacking there as well, at least relative to top flight national sides.


Where are the US Midfielders playing their club ball?

If we are to listen to the DCUM expertise on how low level they all are, how are they fooling coaches, GM's and owners of these division 1 clubs in Europe?


Adams played 3 games for Bournemouth last season, yes hurt, but that's not playing.
Musah and Pulisic play well for AC Milan, but has to be said they did not succeed in Premier League
Weah same Juventus, not a success or desired elsewhere
McKennie same italian, was a failure at Leeds
Reyna plays where exactly??? 20 league games over last 2 years at Dortmund and Nottingham = 0 goals or add 4 extra nonleague games still = 0 goals

these 6 are the core of Berhalter's world, the players are calling to support GB now because if GB goes likely their untouchable roles do as well

Dest when healthy is a player but is a wingback


So AC Milan and Juventus are small clubs in Europe who are desperate and have no choice but to scrape the bottom of the barrel for our rec league US boys?


you fail to see the differences between adequate and good, Pulisic is an adequate professional left wing. He is not world class. Yet he is the best American player. The US' golden generation is only golden compared to US. Adams, McKennie, Weah, Pulisic, Musah and Reyna are meh. Led by GB they are even more meh Your post really proves the point. AC Milan and Juventus play tougher matches and competition than the USMNT usually does with its cupcakes in CONCACAF. the US players are not the stars at those clubs, just complementary pieces. the US players do better against weak national team competition, although lately they dont even do that Pulisic is a solid pro, but not a star except on US team against weaker competition. US cant even advance in Copa let alone Euros or world cup

there is enough of statistical data on these guys to show what they really are, Pulisic is the only one of a significant caliber pro as a difference maker, Reyna had promise and maybe still does

McKennie 198 professional matches 13 goals USA 56 matches 11 goals
Pulisic 224 pro matches 45 goals USA 71 matches 30 goals
Adams 194 pro matches 3 goals USA 42 matches 2 goals
Musah 141 pro matches 3 goals USA 39 matches 0 goals
Weah 137 pro matches 10 goals (0 with Juventus) USA 41 matches 6 goals
Reyna 99 pro matches 13 goals USA 31 matches 8 goals








No need to read your entire diatribe dissertation.
There are only a few world class players in professional football

Adequate doesn't have you playing at AC Milan or Juventus or Premier League
Adequate doesn't have McKennie considered by most the best Midfielder in Serie A last season

Stats are used to tell whatever story and narrative you choose.
It's not track & field. Not just about numbers (only 1 international goal for Bernardo Silva a top player)
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2024 11:54     Subject: Opinions on USMNT out of Copa America

All of this blathering about the US players being mid - they weren't facing powerhouses. They don't need to be amazing to do better than they showed.

Sure they have a ceiling, but its higher that Greg can coach them to.
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2024 11:45     Subject: Opinions on USMNT out of Copa America

Berhaltter is biggest scrub of a manager at the international level the likes many have not seen. Look at the guy. He's a goof ball and a clown. Of course the players like him. Federation management likes him. But he cannot win nor will that loser ever win.
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2024 11:33     Subject: Opinions on USMNT out of Copa America

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Anonymous wrote:If that’s all you saw, you don’t understand the game.


Care to respond to my actual statement without a pompous redefinition? Do you agree that Uruguay is an athletic and running team or not?


Which team doesn't have athletic players?


USMNT


I agree with this completely. If you think Tyler, Weston and Musah are athletic midfielders, you don't know what athletic means. The centerbacks are even worse (though with Ream, that is a function of age). Uruguay has multiple players head and shoulders above anybody on the US team; they are also more athletic. I don't know what "running" team means at all.


Name some of history's top rated Midfielders
Think Spain, Holland, Germany, Brazil, Croatia, Argentina....
How many of them were/are more 'athletic' than the USA Midfielders


People like modric are more athletic. The us Mids are not athletic. Have had weight issues. Worse many have had discipline/professionalism issues. Marsh is right.
Berhalter is playing same guys in same formations and getting same results over and over.

USMNT gets outworked by other teams.


LOL .... Little Luca Modric is more athletic than Tyler Adams?

This ignorance has no limits

That aside, athleticism is/has never been listed as top requirement for great Midfielders.
IQ, Vision, Decision Making, Technical Skills all come before


Yes Luca Modric is more athletic than all three US starters, at least when he was 30-35. And little Leo Messi was one of the best athletes in his prime with respect to both speed and balance. Height is not athleticism. Those other qualities are essential and more important, and unfortunately we are lacking there as well, at least relative to top flight national sides.


Where are the US Midfielders playing their club ball?

If we are to listen to the DCUM expertise on how low level they all are, how are they fooling coaches, GM's and owners of these division 1 clubs in Europe?


Adams played 3 games for Bournemouth last season, yes hurt, but that's not playing.
Musah and Pulisic play well for AC Milan, but has to be said they did not succeed in Premier League
Weah same Juventus, not a success or desired elsewhere
McKennie same italian, was a failure at Leeds
Reyna plays where exactly??? 20 league games over last 2 years at Dortmund and Nottingham = 0 goals or add 4 extra nonleague games still = 0 goals

these 6 are the core of Berhalter's world, the players are calling to support GB now because if GB goes likely their untouchable roles do as well

Dest when healthy is a player but is a wingback


So AC Milan and Juventus are small clubs in Europe who are desperate and have no choice but to scrape the bottom of the barrel for our rec league US boys?


you fail to see the differences between adequate and good, Pulisic is an adequate professional left wing. He is not world class. Yet he is the best American player. The US' golden generation is only golden compared to US. Adams, McKennie, Weah, Pulisic, Musah and Reyna are meh. Led by GB they are even more meh Your post really proves the point. AC Milan and Juventus play tougher matches and competition than the USMNT usually does with its cupcakes in CONCACAF. the US players are not the stars at those clubs, just complementary pieces. the US players do better against weak national team competition, although lately they dont even do that Pulisic is a solid pro, but not a star except on US team against weaker competition. US cant even advance in Copa let alone Euros or world cup

there is enough of statistical data on these guys to show what they really are, Pulisic is the only one of a significant caliber pro as a difference maker, Reyna had promise and maybe still does

McKennie 198 professional matches 13 goals USA 56 matches 11 goals
Pulisic 224 pro matches 45 goals USA 71 matches 30 goals
Adams 194 pro matches 3 goals USA 42 matches 2 goals
Musah 141 pro matches 3 goals USA 39 matches 0 goals
Weah 137 pro matches 10 goals (0 with Juventus) USA 41 matches 6 goals
Reyna 99 pro matches 13 goals USA 31 matches 8 goals






Anonymous
Post 07/05/2024 11:26     Subject: Opinions on USMNT out of Copa America

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I'd love to see this US men team playing the US women team.


Philadelphia Union U17 or Charlotte FC U17s would beat them by double digits. Don't kid yourself. These are not the same sports.


FC Dallas U15s beat the USWNT 5-2.
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2024 10:20     Subject: Opinions on USMNT out of Copa America

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Anonymous wrote:If that’s all you saw, you don’t understand the game.


Care to respond to my actual statement without a pompous redefinition? Do you agree that Uruguay is an athletic and running team or not?


Which team doesn't have athletic players?


USMNT


I agree with this completely. If you think Tyler, Weston and Musah are athletic midfielders, you don't know what athletic means. The centerbacks are even worse (though with Ream, that is a function of age). Uruguay has multiple players head and shoulders above anybody on the US team; they are also more athletic. I don't know what "running" team means at all.


Name some of history's top rated Midfielders
Think Spain, Holland, Germany, Brazil, Croatia, Argentina....
How many of them were/are more 'athletic' than the USA Midfielders


People like modric are more athletic. The us Mids are not athletic. Have had weight issues. Worse many have had discipline/professionalism issues. Marsh is right.
Berhalter is playing same guys in same formations and getting same results over and over.

USMNT gets outworked by other teams.


LOL .... Little Luca Modric is more athletic than Tyler Adams?

This ignorance has no limits

That aside, athleticism is/has never been listed as top requirement for great Midfielders.
IQ, Vision, Decision Making, Technical Skills all come before


Yes Luca Modric is more athletic than all three US starters, at least when he was 30-35. And little Leo Messi was one of the best athletes in his prime with respect to both speed and balance. Height is not athleticism. Those other qualities are essential and more important, and unfortunately we are lacking there as well, at least relative to top flight national sides.


Where are the US Midfielders playing their club ball?

If we are to listen to the DCUM expertise on how low level they all are, how are they fooling coaches, GM's and owners of these division 1 clubs in Europe?


Adams played 3 games for Bournemouth last season, yes hurt, but that's not playing.
Musah and Pulisic play well for AC Milan, but has to be said they did not succeed in Premier League
Weah same Juventus, not a success or desired elsewhere
McKennie same italian, was a failure at Leeds
Reyna plays where exactly??? 20 league games over last 2 years at Dortmund and Nottingham = 0 goals or add 4 extra nonleague games still = 0 goals

these 6 are the core of Berhalter's world, the players are calling to support GB now because if GB goes likely their untouchable roles do as well

Dest when healthy is a player but is a wingback


So AC Milan and Juventus are small clubs in Europe who are desperate and have no choice but to scrape the bottom of the barrel for our rec league US boys?
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2024 10:04     Subject: Opinions on USMNT out of Copa America

US has no level. Please don't kid yourself.

Current youth system will keep producing terrible results. Us, Canada, Mexico have at the moment no business in Copa America. Pretty evident.
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2024 09:55     Subject: Opinions on USMNT out of Copa America

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I'd love to see this US men team playing the US women team.


Philadelphia Union U17 or Charlotte FC U17s would beat them by double digits. Don't kid yourself. These are not the same sports.


I know we all assume many things but, really, I'd love to see them play a good match.
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2024 09:50     Subject: Opinions on USMNT out of Copa America

Anonymous wrote:
I'd love to see this US men team playing the US women team.


Philadelphia Union U17 or Charlotte FC U17s would beat them by double digits. Don't kid yourself. These are not the same sports.
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2024 09:47     Subject: Opinions on USMNT out of Copa America

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Anonymous wrote:If that’s all you saw, you don’t understand the game.


Care to respond to my actual statement without a pompous redefinition? Do you agree that Uruguay is an athletic and running team or not?


Which team doesn't have athletic players?


USMNT


I agree with this completely. If you think Tyler, Weston and Musah are athletic midfielders, you don't know what athletic means. The centerbacks are even worse (though with Ream, that is a function of age). Uruguay has multiple players head and shoulders above anybody on the US team; they are also more athletic. I don't know what "running" team means at all.


Name some of history's top rated Midfielders
Think Spain, Holland, Germany, Brazil, Croatia, Argentina....
How many of them were/are more 'athletic' than the USA Midfielders


People like modric are more athletic. The us Mids are not athletic. Have had weight issues. Worse many have had discipline/professionalism issues. Marsh is right.
Berhalter is playing same guys in same formations and getting same results over and over.

USMNT gets outworked by other teams.


LOL .... Little Luca Modric is more athletic than Tyler Adams?

This ignorance has no limits

That aside, athleticism is/has never been listed as top requirement for great Midfielders.
IQ, Vision, Decision Making, Technical Skills all come before


At 38 Luka is comparale to McKennie's speed at 25.
Adams is faster than Luka, but not more athletic.
How bad is the US mids? Adams was involved in creating 2 chances in 381 minutes of Copa. He can't make progressive passes now, he has played so little he never should have been on team. In the Copa, Matt turner attempted more passes than each of his midfield or attacking teammates in the loss to Uruguay. He attempted more passes than Reyna and McKennie combined during the tournament.
There is so much wrong with this team it is clear that an overhaul is needed. Adams and Reyna should be benched for now, Musah too. And a change in formation(s) tactics and coach and some attitudes (CP and Weah). Then we can see if there is anything actually there.

And it doesnt stop there: our director Betty Crocker is at the Euros instead of the Copa. Any Americans at the Euros? What a joke, that the director isnt even at the Copa, and still lives overseas. Nice remote gig.


This is the best breakdown I've seen of this most recent Men's team, bar none. Would you get rid of Berhalter, and if so, who would be feasible top three picks for replacement given likely limitations on salary?
Anonymous
Post 07/05/2024 09:34     Subject: Opinions on USMNT out of Copa America

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Anonymous wrote:If that’s all you saw, you don’t understand the game.


Care to respond to my actual statement without a pompous redefinition? Do you agree that Uruguay is an athletic and running team or not?


Which team doesn't have athletic players?


USMNT


I agree with this completely. If you think Tyler, Weston and Musah are athletic midfielders, you don't know what athletic means. The centerbacks are even worse (though with Ream, that is a function of age). Uruguay has multiple players head and shoulders above anybody on the US team; they are also more athletic. I don't know what "running" team means at all.


Name some of history's top rated Midfielders
Think Spain, Holland, Germany, Brazil, Croatia, Argentina....
How many of them were/are more 'athletic' than the USA Midfielders


People like modric are more athletic. The us Mids are not athletic. Have had weight issues. Worse many have had discipline/professionalism issues. Marsh is right.
Berhalter is playing same guys in same formations and getting same results over and over.

USMNT gets outworked by other teams.


LOL .... Little Luca Modric is more athletic than Tyler Adams?

This ignorance has no limits

That aside, athleticism is/has never been listed as top requirement for great Midfielders.
IQ, Vision, Decision Making, Technical Skills all come before


Yes Luca Modric is more athletic than all three US starters, at least when he was 30-35. And little Leo Messi was one of the best athletes in his prime with respect to both speed and balance. Height is not athleticism. Those other qualities are essential and more important, and unfortunately we are lacking there as well, at least relative to top flight national sides.


Where are the US Midfielders playing their club ball?

If we are to listen to the DCUM expertise on how low level they all are, how are they fooling coaches, GM's and owners of these division 1 clubs in Europe?


Adams played 3 games for Bournemouth last season, yes hurt, but that's not playing.
Musah and Pulisic play well for AC Milan, but has to be said they did not succeed in Premier League
Weah same Juventus, not a success or desired elsewhere
McKennie same italian, was a failure at Leeds
Reyna plays where exactly??? 20 league games over last 2 years at Dortmund and Nottingham = 0 goals or add 4 extra nonleague games still = 0 goals

these 6 are the core of Berhalter's world, the players are calling to support GB now because if GB goes likely their untouchable roles do as well

Dest when healthy is a player but is a wingback
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Post 07/05/2024 09:21     Subject: Opinions on USMNT out of Copa America

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Care to respond to my actual statement without a pompous redefinition? Do you agree that Uruguay is an athletic and running team or not?


Which team doesn't have athletic players?


USMNT


I agree with this completely. If you think Tyler, Weston and Musah are athletic midfielders, you don't know what athletic means. The centerbacks are even worse (though with Ream, that is a function of age). Uruguay has multiple players head and shoulders above anybody on the US team; they are also more athletic. I don't know what "running" team means at all.


Name some of history's top rated Midfielders
Think Spain, Holland, Germany, Brazil, Croatia, Argentina....
How many of them were/are more 'athletic' than the USA Midfielders


People like modric are more athletic. The us Mids are not athletic. Have had weight issues. Worse many have had discipline/professionalism issues. Marsh is right.
Berhalter is playing same guys in same formations and getting same results over and over.

USMNT gets outworked by other teams.


LOL .... Little Luca Modric is more athletic than Tyler Adams?

This ignorance has no limits

That aside, athleticism is/has never been listed as top requirement for great Midfielders.
IQ, Vision, Decision Making, Technical Skills all come before


At 38 Luka is comparale to McKennie's speed at 25.
Adams is faster than Luka, but not more athletic.
How bad is the US mids? Adams was involved in creating 2 chances in 381 minutes of Copa. He can't make progressive passes now, he has played so little he never should have been on team. In the Copa, Matt turner attempted more passes than each of his midfield or attacking teammates in the loss to Uruguay. He attempted more passes than Reyna and McKennie combined during the tournament.
There is so much wrong with this team it is clear that an overhaul is needed. Adams and Reyna should be benched for now, Musah too. And a change in formation(s) tactics and coach and some attitudes (CP and Weah). Then we can see if there is anything actually there.

And it doesnt stop there: our director Betty Crocker is at the Euros instead of the Copa. Any Americans at the Euros? What a joke, that the director isnt even at the Copa, and still lives overseas. Nice remote gig.