You have too much anxiety for this offer.

If you aren't comfortable say no and move on.

This is how most 14 year olds earn money. Their babysitting, and lawn care jobs all lack benefits and workers comp.

Isn’t this similar to babysitting, dog-walking, and lawn services?

If kitchen safety is your concern, just say she can only help at the booth (if your kid wants to)

Say yes to the booth but no to the kitchen work. Then let your neighbor decide if that arrangement would be acceptable.

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Anonymous wrote:I still have an old dish washing injury I never recovered from.

I suffered a chemical burn from a similar job, when my employer refilled the dish liquid with the wrong solution. I had to have a skin graft. Of course, I was covered under the employers insurance.

I too would be curious who would cover this child’s injuries if something happened. Homeowner’s insurance? But who is paying for the ER visit? How are you getting compensated? My parents didn’t pay for anything, and didn’t have to recoup a dime. Applebee’s paid for everything.

I mean, this is the risk you take when you have a job like this, and I know it’s typical and injury is rare, but not impossible.

Applebees is not hiring 14 year olds.

And the neighbor is unlikely to have her 14 year old doing anything dangerous in the kitchen. She's looking for someone to do the manual labor jobs in the kitchen. Most likely she'll be doing the dishes, the cleaning, and maybe some prep work like measuring out ingredients for the neighbor to cook with. She may get assigned to run and do a load of laundry for towels and such.

And like another PP pointed out, unlike a professional restaurant, the home business baker is not likely to be using caustic industrial cleaning agents that are going to be dangerous. If there is an accident, then OP's insurance will handle it and they can ask the neighbor business owner to cover any expenses not covered by insurance. As the employer, that is appropriate. If the neighbor doesn't want to pay, then OP will have to decide if it is worthwhile to pursue in small claims court, but any small claims court would like make the employer pay for expenses caused by work that was not covered by some form or workman's comp.

This would be good experience for her and yes, look at it as a tip, etc. But it sounds like you don't want her to so don't.

OP, I think you have an anxiety problem if this is your reaction to the request.

The first thing to do is find out if your DD wants the job. If she does, then it's a good time for you to teach your child some kitchen safety tips before she starts the job. You can review using a stove and oven, how to use hot pads and kitchen mitts. Use of plates or spoon rests, washing dishes, especially food safety when cleaning. Show her anything you want her to be aware of and careful of. Frankly, you should have already had this discussion with a 14 year old. We started at age 10 and at age 12, we are still reminding our kids of safety issues in the kitchen (it's a little harder for them to remember because they only do cooking things infrequently). But you teach, remind, refresh regularly. After she starts to work, you can ask her what she is doing and if she is assigned a kitchen helper task you haven't reviewed with her, discuss what she is doing and give her any safety tips that you think she will need to know. This is a good learning experience and you can help her be prepared for high school and college when she will need to do kitchen work for herself.

I think it's a fine job... my DD grew up pet sitting, house sitting etc and it was always cash under the table. I never ONCE thought about "oh she's not eligible for WC what if she gets hurt", and I'm in HR!

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Anonymous wrote:Just say no. Your neighbor will move onto her next victim. She's not thinking about this as much as you are!

My daughter is 14, and no, she's not doing that sort of job. She has occasional pet-sitting and dog-walking gigs. My 19 year old son has a teaching assistant summer job and an internship. At 14 he wasn't working.

None of this needs to happen. Let your child enjoy her summer off. Goodness knows they work them hard in high school.

LMAO! :lol: :lol: :lol:

So your kids not in the 12 APs and demanding extra-curriculars crowd. Mine are. I want them to relax in the summer. I never had a job as a teen, and I'm a multimillionaire today, without family wealth. I have never understood DCUM's odd fixation of foisting work on children. If they WANT to work, fine. But if they don't, why? They'll have to spent the best decades of their lives working.

You can get into a great college without washing dishes and baking all summer.

I think there is a divide between people who worked menial jobs and those who didn't. For instance, op is horrified at the idea of washing dishes. When she eats out, grown men do that job for less than $200 a day for her, yet it is beneath her child. She never learned to respect that, and it sounds like you have not either. It's a lack of knowledge about the world and a lack of empathy no amount of money can fix.

Well said. These people will never learn to give respect up and down, only up. The worst types of people imo.

Agree with both PP’s.

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Anonymous wrote:I still have an old dish washing injury I never recovered from.

I suffered a chemical burn from a similar job, when my employer refilled the dish liquid with the wrong solution. I had to have a skin graft. Of course, I was covered under the employers insurance.

I too would be curious who would cover this child’s injuries if something happened. Homeowner’s insurance? But who is paying for the ER visit? How are you getting compensated? My parents didn’t pay for anything, and didn’t have to recoup a dime. Applebee’s paid for everything.

I mean, this is the risk you take when you have a job like this, and I know it’s typical and injury is rare, but not impossible.

OP might not be correct about it not falling under workers comp. As a comp attorney I can tell you that some jurisdictions’ laws will consider it comp. Thing is that the neighbor probably doesn’t carry insurance. So the neighbor would have major legal problems should there be an injury.

And no it wouldn’t be covered under homeowner’s for two reasons. One is an exclusion that most policies have. And second, unlike workers’ comp, for homeowners to cover, it can’t be the injured person’s fault.

All this being said, I’d let my kid do t if they wanted just like I let my kids babysit, walk dogs, mow lawns, shovel snow . . .

OP you are neurotic. I’m sure the neighbor already thinks you’re a nutbag when you started babbling about work permits and workers comp. This is basically the same as if the neighbor asked for her to be a mother’s helper—except, pays more and no dealing with kids.

This has to be a troll.

You should turn it down and direct your neighbor to a teenage who wants to work. There are plenty of teens who want to work and whose parents aren't crazy.

I’d let my kid do it once with the neighbor as a trial for everyone. Then go from there. Paying cash to a 14yo would not be an issue for me.

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Anonymous wrote:Just say no. Your neighbor will move onto her next victim. She's not thinking about this as much as you are!

My daughter is 14, and no, she's not doing that sort of job. She has occasional pet-sitting and dog-walking gigs. My 19 year old son has a teaching assistant summer job and an internship. At 14 he wasn't working.

None of this needs to happen. Let your child enjoy her summer off. Goodness knows they work them hard in high school.

LMAO!

So your kids not in the 12 APs and demanding extra-curriculars crowd. Mine are. I want them to relax in the summer. I never had a job as a teen, and I'm a multimillionaire today, without family wealth. I have never understood DCUM's odd fixation of foisting work on children. If they WANT to work, fine. But if they don't, why? They'll have to spent the best decades of their lives working.

You can get into a great college without washing dishes and baking all summer.

We are not all multimillionaires and our kids want expensive stuff, so they can work to earn money to pay for that stuff.

Does your dd want to do it? Sounds like a good introduction to work, especially if she is washing dishes or doing something else that isn’t glamorous. Our kids need to understand that every job entails lots of different duties and some of them aren’t very fun.