Anonymous wrote:I'm going to guess the non-Christian players don't find it awesome.

Anonymous wrote:As an Argentinaian American I want to clarify a few things

1) This has nothing to do with South America and we too found it to be strange and awkward. I received text messages from my family asking what was happening. They all felt it was inappropriate. The just assumed it was an American thing.

2) The Evangelical preacher who gave the sermon is known to crusades against “gender ideology". This was nothing less than a political hit job disguised as a religious message of peace. Judging by the frequent counter arguments about how it's "ok for Gay Pride but not for Jesus" in almost every forum I could find makes it even more clear.

3) To those that think that the Gay Pride messages are as inappropriate as the messages of Jesus... You are missing the point completely. One group is persecuted and can not change what they are. The other group is the intolerant group doing the persecution but perceiving themselves as the victim. The whole reason for Gay Pride is because you are persecuting them by trying to shame them. That's why it's called Gay Pride, because they will not be shamed.

Prayer does not belong in sports. And hatred disguised as prayer is vile and blasphemous.

Anonymous wrote:Religion should stay in the church or in your home.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Canadian, I was very surprised to hear a religious speech before an international sporting event not affiliated with any religion. I put it up to US Christian evangelism. I saw it as somewhat insulting to non Christian fans and players alike. I equate it with having a political speech at a sporting event. Not the time or place. But then, I also don't like national anthems played before NHL league games. At least here there are national teams competing. As for saying that "most" athletes are Christians, that doesn't mean they subscribe to the same values and views of one specific group. Just look at the number of LGBTQ players that play on their national teams. Should they have to listen to a sermon by some group that works to deny their rights and sees them as sinners for who they are. Religion should stay in the church or in your home.

Yep. Totally inappropriate.

lemme guess….when they shove down peoples’ throats all that rainbow and alphabet mafia lobby derangement. That’s not inappropriate. Let alone kneeling for a misogynistic pregnant abuser drug user.

Funny, innit?

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Anonymous wrote:I thought this clearly Christian prayer was out of place at this event. However, if tbe same men would have said a similar message without any reference to their own religion, it would have been ok in my view. Had it been an imam, rabbi, hindu, shaman leader saying a similar “wish” for peace, should have also been ok. Just my point of view. The Copa America, as far as I know, does not have a religious affiliation. If these prayers become the norm, will non-Christians be denied advancement opportunities in Conmebol? Will members have to demonstrate how religious they are now? As a previous poster said, “ keep your religion at church and at home”
Signed, a Catholic and Catholic school graduate.

Will players on teams that support rainbow flags and BLM be punished or not promoted if they don't have the correct beliefs or post the right things on social media?

🤔 punished for saying lives matter?

So it's only a belief for some? (In the Christian country)

I don't know - if someone posted "all lives matter" would they get in trouble?

If "all lives" were under the dark clouds of racism and bigotry and institutional discrimination and excessive brutality and overzealous prosecution and incarceration for centuries, then "all lives" as a social call would make sense.

That said, saying blue lives matter doesn't mean grey lives don't matter.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Canadian, I was very surprised to hear a religious speech before an international sporting event not affiliated with any religion. I put it up to US Christian evangelism. I saw it as somewhat insulting to non Christian fans and players alike. I equate it with having a political speech at a sporting event. Not the time or place. But then, I also don't like national anthems played before NHL league games. At least here there are national teams competing. As for saying that "most" athletes are Christians, that doesn't mean they subscribe to the same values and views of one specific group. Just look at the number of LGBTQ players that play on their national teams. Should they have to listen to a sermon by some group that works to deny their rights and sees them as sinners for who they are. Religion should stay in the church or in your home.

Yep. Totally inappropriate.

lemme guess….when they shove down peoples’ throats all that rainbow and alphabet mafia lobby derangement. That’s not inappropriate. Let alone kneeling for a misogynistic pregnant abuser drug user.

Funny, innit?

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Anonymous wrote:I thought this clearly Christian prayer was out of place at this event. However, if tbe same men would have said a similar message without any reference to their own religion, it would have been ok in my view. Had it been an imam, rabbi, hindu, shaman leader saying a similar “wish” for peace, should have also been ok. Just my point of view. The Copa America, as far as I know, does not have a religious affiliation. If these prayers become the norm, will non-Christians be denied advancement opportunities in Conmebol? Will members have to demonstrate how religious they are now? As a previous poster said, “ keep your religion at church and at home”
Signed, a Catholic and Catholic school graduate.

Will players on teams that support rainbow flags and BLM be punished or not promoted if they don't have the correct beliefs or post the right things on social media?

🤔 punished for saying lives matter?

So it's only a belief for some? (In the Christian country)

I don't know - if someone posted "all lives matter" would they get in trouble?

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Anonymous wrote:As a Canadian, I was very surprised to hear a religious speech before an international sporting event not affiliated with any religion. I put it up to US Christian evangelism. I saw it as somewhat insulting to non Christian fans and players alike. I equate it with having a political speech at a sporting event. Not the time or place. But then, I also don't like national anthems played before NHL league games. At least here there are national teams competing. As for saying that "most" athletes are Christians, that doesn't mean they subscribe to the same values and views of one specific group. Just look at the number of LGBTQ players that play on their national teams. Should they have to listen to a sermon by some group that works to deny their rights and sees them as sinners for who they are. Religion should stay in the church or in your home.

Yep. Totally inappropriate.

lemme guess….when they shove down peoples’ throats all that rainbow and alphabet mafia lobby derangement. That’s not inappropriate. Let alone kneeling for a misogynistic pregnant abuser drug user.

Funny, innit?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a Canadian, I was very surprised to hear a religious speech before an international sporting event not affiliated with any religion. I put it up to US Christian evangelism. I saw it as somewhat insulting to non Christian fans and players alike. I equate it with having a political speech at a sporting event. Not the time or place. But then, I also don't like national anthems played before NHL league games. At least here there are national teams competing. As for saying that "most" athletes are Christians, that doesn't mean they subscribe to the same values and views of one specific group. Just look at the number of LGBTQ players that play on their national teams. Should they have to listen to a sermon by some group that works to deny their rights and sees them as sinners for who they are. Religion should stay in the church or in your home.

Yep. Totally inappropriate.

Anonymous wrote:As a Canadian, I was very surprised to hear a religious speech before an international sporting event not affiliated with any religion. I put it up to US Christian evangelism. I saw it as somewhat insulting to non Christian fans and players alike. I equate it with having a political speech at a sporting event. Not the time or place. But then, I also don't like national anthems played before NHL league games. At least here there are national teams competing. As for saying that "most" athletes are Christians, that doesn't mean they subscribe to the same values and views of one specific group. Just look at the number of LGBTQ players that play on their national teams. Should they have to listen to a sermon by some group that works to deny their rights and sees them as sinners for who they are. Religion should stay in the church or in your home.