Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 21:26     Subject: "Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:everyone, its the seed oils in EVERYTHING, i really mean this.

you might be teaching portion control, no sodas/chips, watching calories in and calories out, but if you/your child is getting most their food highly processed or boxed or prepared veggies with low fat ranch, chances are it is saturated with canola/soy/palm/seed oils that is contributing to the weight gain. if you give your child goldfish, veggie crackers, nutra-grain bars, granola bars, pretzels, all of this has seed oil in it.

its the seed oils in literally everything that are making everyone sick.


https://health.clevelandclinic.org/seed-oils-are-they-actually-toxic


Seed oils aren’t even close to being in everything. Unless you eat exclusively from the inner aisles at the grocery store. There are plenty of food options, even affordable ones, that do not contain seed oils. This has always been the case even before “seed oils” became the new bad thing.

Virtually all convenience shelf stable foods have seed oils, goldfish, crackers, cookies, chips. The only thing that doesn't are pretzels. Yogurt tubes have sugar. My husband keeps buying added sugar yogurt when I tell him not to. You have to eat a pretty different diet from the typical american to avoid sugar and seed oils. Social events are drowning in sugar and seed oils. My son was at a math competition practice and ate an adult sized muffin and donut. If you tried to serve a fruit salad and charcuterie board to kids half of them wouldn't touch anything and 100% of the parents would think you are crazy


It’s not the seed oils, it’s that the things they are often in are processed, low nutrient foods. Ranch on your veggies isn’t the problem (in moderation).


Here’s more about seed oils https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/scientists-debunk-seed-oil-health-risks/

Want to see their source of funding lol
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 21:25     Subject: Re:"Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Y’all need to read “Fat Talk” by Virginia Sole-Smith

Google imaged her pic and she is 100+ pounds overweight, as I thought. Hard pass.


How nice that you decide on which authors to read based on their BMI. You are the problem.

Uh yeah, I don't read diet books by fat people, don't read fitness books written by dad bods. Guilty as charged
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 21:24     Subject: "Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:everyone, its the seed oils in EVERYTHING, i really mean this.

you might be teaching portion control, no sodas/chips, watching calories in and calories out, but if you/your child is getting most their food highly processed or boxed or prepared veggies with low fat ranch, chances are it is saturated with canola/soy/palm/seed oils that is contributing to the weight gain. if you give your child goldfish, veggie crackers, nutra-grain bars, granola bars, pretzels, all of this has seed oil in it.

its the seed oils in literally everything that are making everyone sick.


https://health.clevelandclinic.org/seed-oils-are-they-actually-toxic


Seed oils aren’t even close to being in everything. Unless you eat exclusively from the inner aisles at the grocery store. There are plenty of food options, even affordable ones, that do not contain seed oils. This has always been the case even before “seed oils” became the new bad thing.

Virtually all convenience shelf stable foods have seed oils, goldfish, crackers, cookies, chips. The only thing that doesn't are pretzels. Yogurt tubes have sugar. My husband keeps buying added sugar yogurt when I tell him not to. You have to eat a pretty different diet from the typical american to avoid sugar and seed oils. Social events are drowning in sugar and seed oils. My son was at a math competition practice and ate an adult sized muffin and donut. If you tried to serve a fruit salad and charcuterie board to kids half of them wouldn't touch anything and 100% of the parents would think you are crazy


It’s not the seed oils, it’s that the things they are often in are processed, low nutrient foods. Ranch on your veggies isn’t the problem (in moderation).

I actually became an anti-Ranch nazi when I noticed it seemed to leave red angry marks on the corner of my kid's mouths where it used to be. I guess I am a hypocrite because I haven't 100% excised it from our diets. If you were to go full bore no seed oils it would really be a major pain and socially isolating
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 21:19     Subject: "Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:everyone, its the seed oils in EVERYTHING, i really mean this.

you might be teaching portion control, no sodas/chips, watching calories in and calories out, but if you/your child is getting most their food highly processed or boxed or prepared veggies with low fat ranch, chances are it is saturated with canola/soy/palm/seed oils that is contributing to the weight gain. if you give your child goldfish, veggie crackers, nutra-grain bars, granola bars, pretzels, all of this has seed oil in it.

its the seed oils in literally everything that are making everyone sick.


https://health.clevelandclinic.org/seed-oils-are-they-actually-toxic


Seed oils aren’t even close to being in everything. Unless you eat exclusively from the inner aisles at the grocery store. There are plenty of food options, even affordable ones, that do not contain seed oils. This has always been the case even before “seed oils” became the new bad thing.

Virtually all convenience shelf stable foods have seed oils, goldfish, crackers, cookies, chips. The only thing that doesn't are pretzels. Yogurt tubes have sugar. My husband keeps buying added sugar yogurt when I tell him not to. You have to eat a pretty different diet from the typical american to avoid sugar and seed oils. Social events are drowning in sugar and seed oils. My son was at a math competition practice and ate an adult sized muffin and donut. If you tried to serve a fruit salad and charcuterie board to kids half of them wouldn't touch anything and 100% of the parents would think you are crazy


It’s not the seed oils, it’s that the things they are often in are processed, low nutrient foods. Ranch on your veggies isn’t the problem (in moderation).


Here’s more about seed oils https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/scientists-debunk-seed-oil-health-risks/
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 21:19     Subject: Re:"Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Y’all need to read “Fat Talk” by Virginia Sole-Smith

Google imaged her pic and she is 100+ pounds overweight, as I thought. Hard pass.


How nice that you decide on which authors to read based on their BMI. You are the problem.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 21:15     Subject: Re:"Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"

The biggest opportunity for improvement would be to 100% stop snacking. Three healthy, filling meals a day. Water/tea/coffee in between. Nothing else. But getting a teen to stick with that is going to be really hard.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 21:14     Subject: "Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:everyone, its the seed oils in EVERYTHING, i really mean this.

you might be teaching portion control, no sodas/chips, watching calories in and calories out, but if you/your child is getting most their food highly processed or boxed or prepared veggies with low fat ranch, chances are it is saturated with canola/soy/palm/seed oils that is contributing to the weight gain. if you give your child goldfish, veggie crackers, nutra-grain bars, granola bars, pretzels, all of this has seed oil in it.

its the seed oils in literally everything that are making everyone sick.


https://health.clevelandclinic.org/seed-oils-are-they-actually-toxic


Seed oils aren’t even close to being in everything. Unless you eat exclusively from the inner aisles at the grocery store. There are plenty of food options, even affordable ones, that do not contain seed oils. This has always been the case even before “seed oils” became the new bad thing.

Virtually all convenience shelf stable foods have seed oils, goldfish, crackers, cookies, chips. The only thing that doesn't are pretzels. Yogurt tubes have sugar. My husband keeps buying added sugar yogurt when I tell him not to. You have to eat a pretty different diet from the typical american to avoid sugar and seed oils. Social events are drowning in sugar and seed oils. My son was at a math competition practice and ate an adult sized muffin and donut. If you tried to serve a fruit salad and charcuterie board to kids half of them wouldn't touch anything and 100% of the parents would think you are crazy


It’s not the seed oils, it’s that the things they are often in are processed, low nutrient foods. Ranch on your veggies isn’t the problem (in moderation).
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 21:10     Subject: "Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:everyone, its the seed oils in EVERYTHING, i really mean this.

you might be teaching portion control, no sodas/chips, watching calories in and calories out, but if you/your child is getting most their food highly processed or boxed or prepared veggies with low fat ranch, chances are it is saturated with canola/soy/palm/seed oils that is contributing to the weight gain. if you give your child goldfish, veggie crackers, nutra-grain bars, granola bars, pretzels, all of this has seed oil in it.

its the seed oils in literally everything that are making everyone sick.


https://health.clevelandclinic.org/seed-oils-are-they-actually-toxic


Seed oils aren’t even close to being in everything. Unless you eat exclusively from the inner aisles at the grocery store. There are plenty of food options, even affordable ones, that do not contain seed oils. This has always been the case even before “seed oils” became the new bad thing.


NP they aren’t in everything but it is worth always looking at ingredients even when you think it’s a healthy choice. For example, lots of brands of hummus have seed oils in them.


I mean, yes, hummus is traditionally made of tahini, a sesame seed oil.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 21:01     Subject: "Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am the compulsive eater poster. Back then, it was attributed to "glands" or whatever...but honestly it was what I ate! There was no mystery about why I was fat and kept gaining. I ate adult sized portions at meals, was my mother's eating buddy, and sneaked food from age 6.
I did not have thyroid problems, PCOS, or anything. After getting myself some help for my eating disorder at age 27 I lost the excess weight easily. Kept most of it off for over 40 years.
She may be eating things you aren't aware of. The nutritionist is anti logging because that makes compulsive eaters more compulsive. Weight Watchers made me nuts, lol not lol.


Was it adhd or asd?
Or just anxiety?

What was causing all the compulsive over-eating?

Either way, congrats! I am searching for a way to launch my impulse eater daughter. She’s overweight, inhales carbs if they’re around, hoards and hides sweets, etc.

I would suggest having her do cardio and go for the 10,000 steps a day. Whenever I start tracking and I realize how much effort it is to burn even 200 calories I start being more selective in what I eat



I'm a nearly 50 yr old woman who just started going to the gym and I agree. I also have started tracking calories, etc with an app. Very eye opening to see how many calories, fat, etc are in each food I eat.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 20:53     Subject: Re:"Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"

Anonymous wrote:Y’all need to read “Fat Talk” by Virginia Sole-Smith

Google imaged her pic and she is 100+ pounds overweight, as I thought. Hard pass.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 20:53     Subject: "Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"

Have you run any lab work to check thyroid/hormone levels?
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 20:47     Subject: "Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am the compulsive eater poster. Back then, it was attributed to "glands" or whatever...but honestly it was what I ate! There was no mystery about why I was fat and kept gaining. I ate adult sized portions at meals, was my mother's eating buddy, and sneaked food from age 6.
I did not have thyroid problems, PCOS, or anything. After getting myself some help for my eating disorder at age 27 I lost the excess weight easily. Kept most of it off for over 40 years.
She may be eating things you aren't aware of. The nutritionist is anti logging because that makes compulsive eaters more compulsive. Weight Watchers made me nuts, lol not lol.


Was it adhd or asd?
Or just anxiety?

What was causing all the compulsive over-eating?

Either way, congrats! I am searching for a way to launch my impulse eater daughter. She’s overweight, inhales carbs if they’re around, hoards and hides sweets, etc.

I would suggest having her do cardio and go for the 10,000 steps a day. Whenever I start tracking and I realize how much effort it is to burn even 200 calories I start being more selective in what I eat
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 20:46     Subject: "Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:everyone, its the seed oils in EVERYTHING, i really mean this.

you might be teaching portion control, no sodas/chips, watching calories in and calories out, but if you/your child is getting most their food highly processed or boxed or prepared veggies with low fat ranch, chances are it is saturated with canola/soy/palm/seed oils that is contributing to the weight gain. if you give your child goldfish, veggie crackers, nutra-grain bars, granola bars, pretzels, all of this has seed oil in it.

its the seed oils in literally everything that are making everyone sick.


https://health.clevelandclinic.org/seed-oils-are-they-actually-toxic


Seed oils aren’t even close to being in everything. Unless you eat exclusively from the inner aisles at the grocery store. There are plenty of food options, even affordable ones, that do not contain seed oils. This has always been the case even before “seed oils” became the new bad thing.


NP they aren’t in everything but it is worth always looking at ingredients even when you think it’s a healthy choice. For example, lots of brands of hummus have seed oils in them.


Curious if I eat a whole food based diet most of the time, am I going to be negatively affected by the occasional seed-oil tainted hummus? Or is it a matter of quantity and frequency?

The truth of the matter is nobody knows! There is a very strong circumstantial relationship between added sugar and seed oils entering the diet and obesity and other chronic diseases
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 20:30     Subject: "Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"

Anonymous wrote:I am the compulsive eater poster. Back then, it was attributed to "glands" or whatever...but honestly it was what I ate! There was no mystery about why I was fat and kept gaining. I ate adult sized portions at meals, was my mother's eating buddy, and sneaked food from age 6.
I did not have thyroid problems, PCOS, or anything. After getting myself some help for my eating disorder at age 27 I lost the excess weight easily. Kept most of it off for over 40 years.
She may be eating things you aren't aware of. The nutritionist is anti logging because that makes compulsive eaters more compulsive. Weight Watchers made me nuts, lol not lol.


Was it adhd or asd?
Or just anxiety?

What was causing all the compulsive over-eating?

Either way, congrats! I am searching for a way to launch my impulse eater daughter. She’s overweight, inhales carbs if they’re around, hoards and hides sweets, etc.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 20:28     Subject: "Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of junk food with kids sports. After game snacks, celebratory pizza, team dinners, cupcakes for someone's birthday, boxes of donuts for early games, its ridiculous. The kids eat 2x as many calories as they burn or more. And most sports and practices have a lot of standing around. They aren't sprinting for 90 minutes.


Ugh. Agree and I hate it. Parents just won’t stop, and if you tell your child they can’t have it you are the bad guy


Exactly. And if you say no, they'll find a way to sneak it later. We try to moderate: "You had ice cream at camp, let's have fruit for dessert". But then there are cupcakes at soccer practice -- the kid looks at you with a pathetic face. Do you really say no? This plays out ALL THE FREAKING TIME.


Agree. Walked in to an after game dinner in bethesda and my 7 yo was eating a huge milkshake for her drink, ice cream sundae for dinner and some chicken nuggets. My husband was there with an huge meal and beer and didn’t even notice. Cool!