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Post 06/18/2024 17:27     Subject: Re:Arlington Donaldson Run MM Triplex

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Anonymous wrote:This lot is just crying out for a 6-plex. Totally fits the lot and neighborhood and is soooo convenient to transit. What a great choice Arlington County Board!!! Thanks so much for making it possible!!

https://redf.in/Cqyjaf


It's 2 blocks from the ART bus, which can then take someone 1 mile to Ballston metro. There are other bus lines on Glebe, but I think ART to Metro is the most likely scenario.
And a grocery store? Coffee shop? You can pretend to justify it however you'd like, but every adult living in that building is going to have a car and drive.


Your initial comment was that this lot isn't convenient to transit. It's actually very convenient for someone commuting to the Ballston Metro. I was replying to what you wrote, not the secret gripes you had in your head.

Yeah, that secret need for food. I totally made up that people who live in apartments need to eat, as well as commute to work.

It's a stupid location for a 6 unit building. Density should be near transit hubs and amenities not in the middle of neighborhoods.


Well if nobody wants to live in these locations because they are "stupid," then you don't have to worry. Sounds like you have it all figured out!

It's not clear that these are selling. MM has cooled substantially. But at least some folks will be the unlucky neighbors who will have to live next to an apartment building crammed onto a lot sized for a SFH.


The “community workers” (teachers, police, nurses, etc) don’t want these crummy apartments or stacked townhouse — those have been options for decades. They want SFH just like almost everyone else.

This just crams in 20 something dinks or group houses into SFH — hope you like the wafting smell of pot and malt liquor in the morning.


People like you infuriate me because this is the kind of talk that makes the MM opponents look crazy. I think the plan that was passed was too extreme but I was embarrassed by comments like yours during all the public comment periods.


What exactly is “crazy” about my post? Teachers and nurses have families too; and they want to raise them with a regular home not be the “weird neighbors” living in the lone condo next to the park? Yes, young teachers live in apartments, condos, and townhomes, but they all move to Fairfax when they have families— hence why our calendar follows FCPS. We should do like Universities and purchase homes for teachers to “buy” , earn modest appreciation, and sell to future teachers. But not feasible I know.

We lived next to a group home in a townhouse; weekend parties are a standard, with drinking and usually some guests smoking out back. Granted I was being poetic in my “napalm in the morning” phrasing, but noise, debris, and limited parking is standard outcomes from group housing in suburban homes.


Because you're taking one incident and generalizing it. I've lived by multiple group homes (and I lived in a group home when I first came to Arlington out of college). Only one set of tenants in one home was ever an issue. So your experience isn't universal and you sound like a crazy person when you frame it that way.

DP. Uh, it IS a universal experience. A good portion of us (who now own homes here) lived in group homes first. I don’t know if you were a nerd or what, but it is very common that young professionals party in these houses. Ever hear how Arlington was named one of the top ten places for Bros? My now husband’s house was so much fun. Parties and BBQs often. Five cars and a motorcycle were parked there. Not to mention when girlfriends would be over. Same at my house - three cars + three boyfriend’s cars. I’m sorry your group house was so lame.


I'm lost- are you against all group houses, or just the ones in your neighborhood? Any SFH can be a group house, the expensive MM housing is probably less likely to be a group house. Where are you going with this?


Yeah the group houses are usually the old decrepit ones before they are torn down and replaced, not after.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 16:28     Subject: Re:Arlington Donaldson Run MM Triplex

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Anonymous wrote:This lot is just crying out for a 6-plex. Totally fits the lot and neighborhood and is soooo convenient to transit. What a great choice Arlington County Board!!! Thanks so much for making it possible!!

https://redf.in/Cqyjaf


It's 2 blocks from the ART bus, which can then take someone 1 mile to Ballston metro. There are other bus lines on Glebe, but I think ART to Metro is the most likely scenario.
And a grocery store? Coffee shop? You can pretend to justify it however you'd like, but every adult living in that building is going to have a car and drive.


Your initial comment was that this lot isn't convenient to transit. It's actually very convenient for someone commuting to the Ballston Metro. I was replying to what you wrote, not the secret gripes you had in your head.

Yeah, that secret need for food. I totally made up that people who live in apartments need to eat, as well as commute to work.

It's a stupid location for a 6 unit building. Density should be near transit hubs and amenities not in the middle of neighborhoods.


Well if nobody wants to live in these locations because they are "stupid," then you don't have to worry. Sounds like you have it all figured out!

It's not clear that these are selling. MM has cooled substantially. But at least some folks will be the unlucky neighbors who will have to live next to an apartment building crammed onto a lot sized for a SFH.


The “community workers” (teachers, police, nurses, etc) don’t want these crummy apartments or stacked townhouse — those have been options for decades. They want SFH just like almost everyone else.

This just crams in 20 something dinks or group houses into SFH — hope you like the wafting smell of pot and malt liquor in the morning.


People like you infuriate me because this is the kind of talk that makes the MM opponents look crazy. I think the plan that was passed was too extreme but I was embarrassed by comments like yours during all the public comment periods.


What exactly is “crazy” about my post? Teachers and nurses have families too; and they want to raise them with a regular home not be the “weird neighbors” living in the lone condo next to the park? Yes, young teachers live in apartments, condos, and townhomes, but they all move to Fairfax when they have families— hence why our calendar follows FCPS. We should do like Universities and purchase homes for teachers to “buy” , earn modest appreciation, and sell to future teachers. But not feasible I know.

We lived next to a group home in a townhouse; weekend parties are a standard, with drinking and usually some guests smoking out back. Granted I was being poetic in my “napalm in the morning” phrasing, but noise, debris, and limited parking is standard outcomes from group housing in suburban homes.


Because you're taking one incident and generalizing it. I've lived by multiple group homes (and I lived in a group home when I first came to Arlington out of college). Only one set of tenants in one home was ever an issue. So your experience isn't universal and you sound like a crazy person when you frame it that way.

DP. Uh, it IS a universal experience. A good portion of us (who now own homes here) lived in group homes first. I don’t know if you were a nerd or what, but it is very common that young professionals party in these houses. Ever hear how Arlington was named one of the top ten places for Bros? My now husband’s house was so much fun. Parties and BBQs often. Five cars and a motorcycle were parked there. Not to mention when girlfriends would be over. Same at my house - three cars + three boyfriend’s cars. I’m sorry your group house was so lame.


I'm lost- are you against all group houses, or just the ones in your neighborhood? Any SFH can be a group house, the expensive MM housing is probably less likely to be a group house. Where are you going with this?
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 16:19     Subject: Re:Arlington Donaldson Run MM Triplex

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Anonymous wrote:This lot is just crying out for a 6-plex. Totally fits the lot and neighborhood and is soooo convenient to transit. What a great choice Arlington County Board!!! Thanks so much for making it possible!!

https://redf.in/Cqyjaf


It's 2 blocks from the ART bus, which can then take someone 1 mile to Ballston metro. There are other bus lines on Glebe, but I think ART to Metro is the most likely scenario.
And a grocery store? Coffee shop? You can pretend to justify it however you'd like, but every adult living in that building is going to have a car and drive.


Your initial comment was that this lot isn't convenient to transit. It's actually very convenient for someone commuting to the Ballston Metro. I was replying to what you wrote, not the secret gripes you had in your head.

Yeah, that secret need for food. I totally made up that people who live in apartments need to eat, as well as commute to work.

It's a stupid location for a 6 unit building. Density should be near transit hubs and amenities not in the middle of neighborhoods.


Well if nobody wants to live in these locations because they are "stupid," then you don't have to worry. Sounds like you have it all figured out!

It's not clear that these are selling. MM has cooled substantially. But at least some folks will be the unlucky neighbors who will have to live next to an apartment building crammed onto a lot sized for a SFH.


The “community workers” (teachers, police, nurses, etc) don’t want these crummy apartments or stacked townhouse — those have been options for decades. They want SFH just like almost everyone else.

This just crams in 20 something dinks or group houses into SFH — hope you like the wafting smell of pot and malt liquor in the morning.


People like you infuriate me because this is the kind of talk that makes the MM opponents look crazy. I think the plan that was passed was too extreme but I was embarrassed by comments like yours during all the public comment periods.


What exactly is “crazy” about my post? Teachers and nurses have families too; and they want to raise them with a regular home not be the “weird neighbors” living in the lone condo next to the park? Yes, young teachers live in apartments, condos, and townhomes, but they all move to Fairfax when they have families— hence why our calendar follows FCPS. We should do like Universities and purchase homes for teachers to “buy” , earn modest appreciation, and sell to future teachers. But not feasible I know.

We lived next to a group home in a townhouse; weekend parties are a standard, with drinking and usually some guests smoking out back. Granted I was being poetic in my “napalm in the morning” phrasing, but noise, debris, and limited parking is standard outcomes from group housing in suburban homes.


Because you're taking one incident and generalizing it. I've lived by multiple group homes (and I lived in a group home when I first came to Arlington out of college). Only one set of tenants in one home was ever an issue. So your experience isn't universal and you sound like a crazy person when you frame it that way.

DP. Uh, it IS a universal experience. A good portion of us (who now own homes here) lived in group homes first. I don’t know if you were a nerd or what, but it is very common that young professionals party in these houses. Ever hear how Arlington was named one of the top ten places for Bros? My now husband’s house was so much fun. Parties and BBQs often. Five cars and a motorcycle were parked there. Not to mention when girlfriends would be over. Same at my house - three cars + three boyfriend’s cars. I’m sorry your group house was so lame.


I don't think it was lame. We knew how to be good neighbors. Sorry you were a jerk!
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 15:36     Subject: Re:Arlington Donaldson Run MM Triplex

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:This lot is just crying out for a 6-plex. Totally fits the lot and neighborhood and is soooo convenient to transit. What a great choice Arlington County Board!!! Thanks so much for making it possible!!

https://redf.in/Cqyjaf


It's 2 blocks from the ART bus, which can then take someone 1 mile to Ballston metro. There are other bus lines on Glebe, but I think ART to Metro is the most likely scenario.
And a grocery store? Coffee shop? You can pretend to justify it however you'd like, but every adult living in that building is going to have a car and drive.


Your initial comment was that this lot isn't convenient to transit. It's actually very convenient for someone commuting to the Ballston Metro. I was replying to what you wrote, not the secret gripes you had in your head.

Yeah, that secret need for food. I totally made up that people who live in apartments need to eat, as well as commute to work.

It's a stupid location for a 6 unit building. Density should be near transit hubs and amenities not in the middle of neighborhoods.


Well if nobody wants to live in these locations because they are "stupid," then you don't have to worry. Sounds like you have it all figured out!

It's not clear that these are selling. MM has cooled substantially. But at least some folks will be the unlucky neighbors who will have to live next to an apartment building crammed onto a lot sized for a SFH.


The “community workers” (teachers, police, nurses, etc) don’t want these crummy apartments or stacked townhouse — those have been options for decades. They want SFH just like almost everyone else.

This just crams in 20 something dinks or group houses into SFH — hope you like the wafting smell of pot and malt liquor in the morning.


People like you infuriate me because this is the kind of talk that makes the MM opponents look crazy. I think the plan that was passed was too extreme but I was embarrassed by comments like yours during all the public comment periods.


What exactly is “crazy” about my post? Teachers and nurses have families too; and they want to raise them with a regular home not be the “weird neighbors” living in the lone condo next to the park? Yes, young teachers live in apartments, condos, and townhomes, but they all move to Fairfax when they have families— hence why our calendar follows FCPS. We should do like Universities and purchase homes for teachers to “buy” , earn modest appreciation, and sell to future teachers. But not feasible I know.

We lived next to a group home in a townhouse; weekend parties are a standard, with drinking and usually some guests smoking out back. Granted I was being poetic in my “napalm in the morning” phrasing, but noise, debris, and limited parking is standard outcomes from group housing in suburban homes.


Because you're taking one incident and generalizing it. I've lived by multiple group homes (and I lived in a group home when I first came to Arlington out of college). Only one set of tenants in one home was ever an issue. So your experience isn't universal and you sound like a crazy person when you frame it that way.

DP. Uh, it IS a universal experience. A good portion of us (who now own homes here) lived in group homes first. I don’t know if you were a nerd or what, but it is very common that young professionals party in these houses. Ever hear how Arlington was named one of the top ten places for Bros? My now husband’s house was so much fun. Parties and BBQs often. Five cars and a motorcycle were parked there. Not to mention when girlfriends would be over. Same at my house - three cars + three boyfriend’s cars. I’m sorry your group house was so lame.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 15:28     Subject: Arlington Donaldson Run MM Triplex

Anonymous wrote:I don’t see the problem. People who live in multi-plexes might want to live on tree-lines streets too. And at MM prices, the residents will not be poor. I fail to see what all the hand-wringing is about.


Uh, if you see the plans, all these MM projects will KILL ALL THE TREES.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 15:13     Subject: Arlington Donaldson Run MM Triplex

I don’t see the problem. People who live in multi-plexes might want to live on tree-lines streets too. And at MM prices, the residents will not be poor. I fail to see what all the hand-wringing is about.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 14:55     Subject: Re:Arlington Donaldson Run MM Triplex

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This lot is just crying out for a 6-plex. Totally fits the lot and neighborhood and is soooo convenient to transit. What a great choice Arlington County Board!!! Thanks so much for making it possible!!

https://redf.in/Cqyjaf


It's 2 blocks from the ART bus, which can then take someone 1 mile to Ballston metro. There are other bus lines on Glebe, but I think ART to Metro is the most likely scenario.
And a grocery store? Coffee shop? You can pretend to justify it however you'd like, but every adult living in that building is going to have a car and drive.


Your initial comment was that this lot isn't convenient to transit. It's actually very convenient for someone commuting to the Ballston Metro. I was replying to what you wrote, not the secret gripes you had in your head.

Yeah, that secret need for food. I totally made up that people who live in apartments need to eat, as well as commute to work.

It's a stupid location for a 6 unit building. Density should be near transit hubs and amenities not in the middle of neighborhoods.


Well if nobody wants to live in these locations because they are "stupid," then you don't have to worry. Sounds like you have it all figured out!

It's not clear that these are selling. MM has cooled substantially. But at least some folks will be the unlucky neighbors who will have to live next to an apartment building crammed onto a lot sized for a SFH.


The “community workers” (teachers, police, nurses, etc) don’t want these crummy apartments or stacked townhouse — those have been options for decades. They want SFH just like almost everyone else.

This just crams in 20 something dinks or group houses into SFH — hope you like the wafting smell of pot and malt liquor in the morning.


People like you infuriate me because this is the kind of talk that makes the MM opponents look crazy. I think the plan that was passed was too extreme but I was embarrassed by comments like yours during all the public comment periods.


What exactly is “crazy” about my post? Teachers and nurses have families too; and they want to raise them with a regular home not be the “weird neighbors” living in the lone condo next to the park? Yes, young teachers live in apartments, condos, and townhomes, but they all move to Fairfax when they have families— hence why our calendar follows FCPS. We should do like Universities and purchase homes for teachers to “buy” , earn modest appreciation, and sell to future teachers. But not feasible I know.

We lived next to a group home in a townhouse; weekend parties are a standard, with drinking and usually some guests smoking out back. Granted I was being poetic in my “napalm in the morning” phrasing, but noise, debris, and limited parking is standard outcomes from group housing in suburban homes.


Because you're taking one incident and generalizing it. I've lived by multiple group homes (and I lived in a group home when I first came to Arlington out of college). Only one set of tenants in one home was ever an issue. So your experience isn't universal and you sound like a crazy person when you frame it that way.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 14:44     Subject: Arlington Donaldson Run MM Triplex

Anonymous wrote:Sneaky how it’s not posted on the web, only by FOI style request.


What's not posted on the web?
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 13:23     Subject: Arlington Donaldson Run MM Triplex

Sneaky how it’s not posted on the web, only by FOI style request.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 12:40     Subject: Arlington Donaldson Run MM Triplex

That lot is in the middle of nothing suburbs with poor visibility. Tenants will all street park rather than try the garage
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 11:06     Subject: Re:Arlington Donaldson Run MM Triplex

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This lot is just crying out for a 6-plex. Totally fits the lot and neighborhood and is soooo convenient to transit. What a great choice Arlington County Board!!! Thanks so much for making it possible!!

https://redf.in/Cqyjaf


It's 2 blocks from the ART bus, which can then take someone 1 mile to Ballston metro. There are other bus lines on Glebe, but I think ART to Metro is the most likely scenario.
And a grocery store? Coffee shop? You can pretend to justify it however you'd like, but every adult living in that building is going to have a car and drive.


Your initial comment was that this lot isn't convenient to transit. It's actually very convenient for someone commuting to the Ballston Metro. I was replying to what you wrote, not the secret gripes you had in your head.

Yeah, that secret need for food. I totally made up that people who live in apartments need to eat, as well as commute to work.

It's a stupid location for a 6 unit building. Density should be near transit hubs and amenities not in the middle of neighborhoods.


Well if nobody wants to live in these locations because they are "stupid," then you don't have to worry. Sounds like you have it all figured out!

It's not clear that these are selling. MM has cooled substantially. But at least some folks will be the unlucky neighbors who will have to live next to an apartment building crammed onto a lot sized for a SFH.


The “community workers” (teachers, police, nurses, etc) don’t want these crummy apartments or stacked townhouse — those have been options for decades. They want SFH just like almost everyone else.

This just crams in 20 something dinks or group houses into SFH — hope you like the wafting smell of pot and malt liquor in the morning.


People like you infuriate me because this is the kind of talk that makes the MM opponents look crazy. I think the plan that was passed was too extreme but I was embarrassed by comments like yours during all the public comment periods.


What exactly is “crazy” about my post? Teachers and nurses have families too; and they want to raise them with a regular home not be the “weird neighbors” living in the lone condo next to the park? Yes, young teachers live in apartments, condos, and townhomes, but they all move to Fairfax when they have families— hence why our calendar follows FCPS. We should do like Universities and purchase homes for teachers to “buy” , earn modest appreciation, and sell to future teachers. But not feasible I know.

We lived next to a group home in a townhouse; weekend parties are a standard, with drinking and usually some guests smoking out back. Granted I was being poetic in my “napalm in the morning” phrasing, but noise, debris, and limited parking is standard outcomes from group housing in suburban homes.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 10:06     Subject: Re:Arlington Donaldson Run MM Triplex

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This lot is just crying out for a 6-plex. Totally fits the lot and neighborhood and is soooo convenient to transit. What a great choice Arlington County Board!!! Thanks so much for making it possible!!

https://redf.in/Cqyjaf


It's 2 blocks from the ART bus, which can then take someone 1 mile to Ballston metro. There are other bus lines on Glebe, but I think ART to Metro is the most likely scenario.
And a grocery store? Coffee shop? You can pretend to justify it however you'd like, but every adult living in that building is going to have a car and drive.


Your initial comment was that this lot isn't convenient to transit. It's actually very convenient for someone commuting to the Ballston Metro. I was replying to what you wrote, not the secret gripes you had in your head.

Yeah, that secret need for food. I totally made up that people who live in apartments need to eat, as well as commute to work.

It's a stupid location for a 6 unit building. Density should be near transit hubs and amenities not in the middle of neighborhoods.


Well if nobody wants to live in these locations because they are "stupid," then you don't have to worry. Sounds like you have it all figured out!

It's not clear that these are selling. MM has cooled substantially. But at least some folks will be the unlucky neighbors who will have to live next to an apartment building crammed onto a lot sized for a SFH.


The “community workers” (teachers, police, nurses, etc) don’t want these crummy apartments or stacked townhouse — those have been options for decades. They want SFH just like almost everyone else.

This just crams in 20 something dinks or group houses into SFH — hope you like the wafting smell of pot and malt liquor in the morning.


People like you infuriate me because this is the kind of talk that makes the MM opponents look crazy. I think the plan that was passed was too extreme but I was embarrassed by comments like yours during all the public comment periods.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 08:40     Subject: Arlington Donaldson Run MM Triplex

Anonymous wrote:I know the neighbors are trying to stop it but there’s nothing much to be done about by-right development, right?

Seriously, vote in the primary and get these short-sighted fools out of there.


+1
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 08:25     Subject: Re:Arlington Donaldson Run MM Triplex

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This lot is just crying out for a 6-plex. Totally fits the lot and neighborhood and is soooo convenient to transit. What a great choice Arlington County Board!!! Thanks so much for making it possible!!

https://redf.in/Cqyjaf


It's 2 blocks from the ART bus, which can then take someone 1 mile to Ballston metro. There are other bus lines on Glebe, but I think ART to Metro is the most likely scenario.


No one buying a million dollar townhouse is wasting so many hours taking the ART to Metro.


PP linked to a lot that's been approved for a 6 plex. That building is going to be a rental full of 1-2 bedroom units.


Wait, WHAT?


Yeah it says it's approved for a 6 unit multifamily building on Arlington's tracker. Anything above 3 units is likely to be a rental building. Nobody is setting up a condo for 4-6 units.


They did on Langston.


A six unit condo on Langston Boulevard with walkability is completely different than a sixPlex in the middle of a tree lined neighborhood with multi million dollar homes. Makes no sense. Unless you’re a developer $$$
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2024 07:40     Subject: Arlington Donaldson Run MM Triplex

I know the neighbors are trying to stop it but there’s nothing much to be done about by-right development, right?

Seriously, vote in the primary and get these short-sighted fools out of there.