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Anonymous wrote:DC has shown interest in Claremont Mckenna, which I 100% wrote off as a mediocre LAC. Then reading through their Roberts Campus and massive alum donation campaign, I am shocked this tiny place hasn't shot to the top of students' lists. They're doubling campus footprint, investing hundreds of thousands to improve research opportunities and internship opportunities, and building a fancy new science department. What is the catch?

Claremont McKenna has always been regarded as one of the top SLACs. It's just in California and the DCUM (emphasis on "DC" area) don't discuss such schools much.

Is it? I feel like the LAC quality drops fast after Bowdoin and Middlebury. Would never send my kids to Hamilton or Colby or...Claremont Mckenna. Sure, they're ranked well, but there's no advantage to paying for it over UMD.

Eh, you might consider consulting something more objective than your feelings on the matter. If your kid wants to go to law school or business school or get a high-paying job in finance, CMC is extremely strong:
#3 for MBA placement: https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-business-school
#12 for Wall Street/IB placement: https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-business-school
#17 for law school placement: https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-law-school

Okay, doesn't necessitate dropping $360k so that my daughter can go to the 17th best school at something. All of this is achievable easily with a state school.

I don’t see any comparably ranked “cheap state schools” on any of those three lists. The state schools are, as you would expect, Berkeley Michigan UCLA etc which are not easy to get into and are not cheap OOS.

UVA does just fine for me. Excellent quality in fact.

Did for us as well. and Claremont McKenna is now $91,414 a year. No thank you! Both of my kids went in-state Va and have done very well according to their respective gifts.

DC chose it over Uchicago, so far serving him well, almost making as much as me (ahem $400k) 2 years out of college. Guess the "$360k" was worth it.

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Anonymous wrote:DC has shown interest in Claremont Mckenna, which I 100% wrote off as a mediocre LAC. Then reading through their Roberts Campus and massive alum donation campaign, I am shocked this tiny place hasn't shot to the top of students' lists. They're doubling campus footprint, investing hundreds of thousands to improve research opportunities and internship opportunities, and building a fancy new science department. What is the catch?

Claremont McKenna has always been regarded as one of the top SLACs. It's just in California and the DCUM (emphasis on "DC" area) don't discuss such schools much.

Is it? I feel like the LAC quality drops fast after Bowdoin and Middlebury. Would never send my kids to Hamilton or Colby or...Claremont Mckenna. Sure, they're ranked well, but there's no advantage to paying for it over UMD.

Eh, you might consider consulting something more objective than your feelings on the matter. If your kid wants to go to law school or business school or get a high-paying job in finance, CMC is extremely strong:
#3 for MBA placement: https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-business-school
#12 for Wall Street/IB placement: https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-business-school
#17 for law school placement: https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-law-school

Okay, doesn't necessitate dropping $360k so that my daughter can go to the 17th best school at something. All of this is achievable easily with a state school.

I don’t see any comparably ranked “cheap state schools” on any of those three lists. The state schools are, as you would expect, Berkeley Michigan UCLA etc which are not easy to get into and are not cheap OOS.

UVA does just fine for me. Excellent quality in fact.

Did for us as well. and Claremont McKenna is now $91,414 a year. No thank you! Both of my kids went in-state Va and have done very well according to their respective gifts.

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Anonymous wrote:DC has shown interest in Claremont Mckenna, which I 100% wrote off as a mediocre LAC. Then reading through their Roberts Campus and massive alum donation campaign, I am shocked this tiny place hasn't shot to the top of students' lists. They're doubling campus footprint, investing hundreds of thousands to improve research opportunities and internship opportunities, and building a fancy new science department. What is the catch?

Claremont McKenna has always been regarded as one of the top SLACs. It's just in California and the DCUM (emphasis on "DC" area) don't discuss such schools much.

Is it? I feel like the LAC quality drops fast after Bowdoin and Middlebury. Would never send my kids to Hamilton or Colby or...Claremont Mckenna. Sure, they're ranked well, but there's no advantage to paying for it over UMD.

Eh, you might consider consulting something more objective than your feelings on the matter. If your kid wants to go to law school or business school or get a high-paying job in finance, CMC is extremely strong:
#3 for MBA placement: https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-business-school
#12 for Wall Street/IB placement: https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-business-school
#17 for law school placement: https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-law-school

Okay, doesn't necessitate dropping $360k so that my daughter can go to the 17th best school at something. All of this is achievable easily with a state school.

I don’t see any comparably ranked “cheap state schools” on any of those three lists. The state schools are, as you would expect, Berkeley Michigan UCLA etc which are not easy to get into and are not cheap OOS.

UVA does just fine for me. Excellent quality in fact.

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Anonymous wrote:DC has shown interest in Claremont Mckenna, which I 100% wrote off as a mediocre LAC. Then reading through their Roberts Campus and massive alum donation campaign, I am shocked this tiny place hasn't shot to the top of students' lists. They're doubling campus footprint, investing hundreds of thousands to improve research opportunities and internship opportunities, and building a fancy new science department. What is the catch?

Claremont McKenna has always been regarded as one of the top SLACs. It's just in California and the DCUM (emphasis on "DC" area) don't discuss such schools much.

Is it? I feel like the LAC quality drops fast after Bowdoin and Middlebury. Would never send my kids to Hamilton or Colby or...Claremont Mckenna. Sure, they're ranked well, but there's no advantage to paying for it over UMD.

Eh, you might consider consulting something more objective than your feelings on the matter. If your kid wants to go to law school or business school or get a high-paying job in finance, CMC is extremely strong:
#3 for MBA placement: https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-business-school
#12 for Wall Street/IB placement: https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-business-school
#17 for law school placement: https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-law-school

Okay, doesn't necessitate dropping $360k so that my daughter can go to the 17th best school at something. All of this is achievable easily with a state school.

I don’t see any comparably ranked “cheap state schools” on any of those three lists. The state schools are, as you would expect, Berkeley Michigan UCLA etc which are not easy to get into and are not cheap OOS.

Anonymous wrote:There has been more than a little strange boosterism of the Claremont schools this week here, very aggressive.

An annoying amount of talk for LACs in general. Someone keeps on boosting the thread to talk about them.

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Anonymous wrote:DC has shown interest in Claremont Mckenna, which I 100% wrote off as a mediocre LAC. Then reading through their Roberts Campus and massive alum donation campaign, I am shocked this tiny place hasn't shot to the top of students' lists. They're doubling campus footprint, investing hundreds of thousands to improve research opportunities and internship opportunities, and building a fancy new science department. What is the catch?

Are they doing these things, or have done? No one wants to attend a work in progress. They may improve when they can boast about the new current features.

Currently in the process of finishing the science center, already have an entire faculty list hired and teaching next semester. You can already see much of the success through the enhanced financial aid and career opportunities given by the college.

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There are so many colleges, OP. Your little favorite is not the only one to invest in its facilities, by far. It's just that you happened to get to know this one.

Seriously. There's no reason to hype up an overpriced California school. Next they'll tell us the wonders of Washington&Lee

W&L happens to be a top notch SLAC too!

Anonymous wrote:DC has shown interest in Claremont Mckenna, which I 100% wrote off as a mediocre LAC. Then reading through their Roberts Campus and massive alum donation campaign, I am shocked this tiny place hasn't shot to the top of students' lists. They're doubling campus footprint, investing hundreds of thousands to improve research opportunities and internship opportunities, and building a fancy new science department. What is the catch?

Are they doing these things, or have done? No one wants to attend a work in progress. They may improve when they can boast about the new current features.

There has been more than a little strange boosterism of the Claremont schools this week here, very aggressive.

This is such a bizarre thread. People who know colleges definitely know cmc. Law schools definitely know cmc. Wall Street knows cmc. I’m a proud cmc graduate. Sure I could have gone to a state school, chose to go to a fantastic liberal arts college.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a middling school at best. Surprised they would get any traction

In what universe is Claremont McKenna "middling at best?" Or are you sad because you didn't get in?

Nothing about it to write home about. Yay you got an easy liberal arts degree with miniscule class sizes, because you weren't smart enough to graduate a state school and need to be coddled with an overpriced degree. No employer will recognize the name but its "prestigious"

Anonymous wrote:It's a middling school at best. Surprised they would get any traction

In what universe is Claremont McKenna "middling at best?" Or are you sad because you didn't get in?

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Anonymous wrote:DC has shown interest in Claremont Mckenna, which I 100% wrote off as a mediocre LAC. Then reading through their Roberts Campus and massive alum donation campaign, I am shocked this tiny place hasn't shot to the top of students' lists. They're doubling campus footprint, investing hundreds of thousands to improve research opportunities and internship opportunities, and building a fancy new science department. What is the catch?

Claremont McKenna has always been regarded as one of the top SLACs. It's just in California and the DCUM (emphasis on "DC" area) don't discuss such schools much.

Is it? I feel like the LAC quality drops fast after Bowdoin and Middlebury. Would never send my kids to Hamilton or Colby or...Claremont Mckenna. Sure, they're ranked well, but there's no advantage to paying for it over UMD.

Eh, you might consider consulting something more objective than your feelings on the matter. If your kid wants to go to law school or business school or get a high-paying job in finance, CMC is extremely strong:
#3 for MBA placement: https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-business-school
#12 for Wall Street/IB placement: https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-business-school
#17 for law school placement: https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-law-school

Okay, doesn't necessitate dropping $360k so that my daughter can go to the 17th best school at something. All of this is achievable easily with a state school.

So your point is that one should always go to an inexpensive state school? If so, I have to wonder why you even opened this particular thread and commented.

In any event, I was responding to the comment that "LAC quality drops fast after Bowdoin and Middlebury." My point is that, while CMC's focus is narrow, what it does it does extremely well and at least as well Bowdoin, Swarthmore, Middlebury, Pomona, or most T20 universities. If you're comparing CMC to other top LACs or T20 private schools, CMC holds its own. If you want to more generally discuss the value of elite private schools vs. public schools, I think this is the wrong thread.

FWIW, I have no ties to CMC. I'm the parent of a kid at a different Claremont College who has no interest in any of the foregoing.

The person whose child I know is enrolling there is incredibly wealthy.

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Anonymous wrote:DC has shown interest in Claremont Mckenna, which I 100% wrote off as a mediocre LAC. Then reading through their Roberts Campus and massive alum donation campaign, I am shocked this tiny place hasn't shot to the top of students' lists. They're doubling campus footprint, investing hundreds of thousands to improve research opportunities and internship opportunities, and building a fancy new science department. What is the catch?

Claremont McKenna has always been regarded as one of the top SLACs. It's just in California and the DCUM (emphasis on "DC" area) don't discuss such schools much.

Is it? I feel like the LAC quality drops fast after Bowdoin and Middlebury. Would never send my kids to Hamilton or Colby or...Claremont Mckenna. Sure, they're ranked well, but there's no advantage to paying for it over UMD.

Eh, you might consider consulting something more objective than your feelings on the matter. If your kid wants to go to law school or business school or get a high-paying job in finance, CMC is extremely strong:
#3 for MBA placement: https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-business-school
#12 for Wall Street/IB placement: https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-business-school
#17 for law school placement: https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-law-school

Okay, doesn't necessitate dropping $360k so that my daughter can go to the 17th best school at something. All of this is achievable easily with a state school.