Anonymous
12/10/2024 10:55
Subject: federal employee pay raise 2025
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is the trade off for never worrying about layoffs.
Hahahahaha
I’m still not worried about being laid off.
Anonymous
12/10/2024 10:54
Subject: federal employee pay raise 2025
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Last year's was historically high. So we all got a morale boost and now it will average out to just normal bump in COLA. We really can't complain, that combined with reliable step increases not tied to performance is a pretty sweet deal.
It is? Maybe for a middling run of the mill employee. High performers are underpaid and will continue to be. The 5k max bonus at my agency for a 15 is sad.
The cola wasn’t a morale boost either. It didn’t even keep up with inflation. We need a few more 5% increases just to do that.
30% of employees in the US are satisfied with their pay. There has also been an explosion of dry promotions, where more work and a higher title come with little or no additional compensation.
The current hiring rate is the lowest it has been since the US emerged from the financial crisis and there are cracks in the labor market.
Why are you entitled to a 5% increase every year when this is not the norm by far for most sectors? Many nonprofits and public institutions keep pay flat for employees for years on end and many private corporations provide in place of COLA “merit” increases that are based on performance (both of the individual and the company) and have nothing to do with inflation.
What does other people being unhappy have to do with this?
Anonymous
12/10/2024 10:49
Subject: federal employee pay raise 2025
Anonymous wrote:This is the trade off for never worrying about layoffs.
Hahahahaha
Anonymous
12/10/2024 10:48
Subject: federal employee pay raise 2025
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Last year's was historically high. So we all got a morale boost and now it will average out to just normal bump in COLA. We really can't complain, that combined with reliable step increases not tied to performance is a pretty sweet deal.
It is? Maybe for a middling run of the mill employee. High performers are underpaid and will continue to be. The 5k max bonus at my agency for a 15 is sad.
The cola wasn’t a morale boost either. It didn’t even keep up with inflation. We need a few more 5% increases just to do that.
30% of employees in the US are satisfied with their pay. There has also been an explosion of dry promotions, where more work and a higher title come with little or no additional compensation.
The current hiring rate is the lowest it has been since the US emerged from the financial crisis and there are cracks in the labor market.
Why are you entitled to a 5% increase every year when this is not the norm by far for most sectors? Many nonprofits and public institutions keep pay flat for employees for years on end and many private corporations provide in place of COLA “merit” increases that are based on performance (both of the individual and the company) and have nothing to do with inflation.
Anonymous
12/10/2024 10:26
Subject: federal employee pay raise 2025
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Last year's was historically high. So we all got a morale boost and now it will average out to just normal bump in COLA. We really can't complain, that combined with reliable step increases not tied to performance is a pretty sweet deal.
It is? Maybe for a middling run of the mill employee. High performers are underpaid and will continue to be. The 5k max bonus at my agency for a 15 is sad.
The cola wasn’t a morale boost either. It didn’t even keep up with inflation. We need a few more 5% increases just to do that.
We also get pensions, so private sector employees aren't crying for us...
New employees now pay 4.4% for that pension, and that makes the pension neutral from an actuarial perspective. In other words, those employees would do just as well getting to keep that money and invest it in the stock market.
Been a fed for almost 10 years, and its been 4.4%. Unfortunately I couldnt start when I was in HS. The majority of my coworkers are paying less than 1% and will get the same benefits as me.
It blows
Anonymous
12/10/2024 09:30
Subject: federal employee pay raise 2025
Anonymous wrote:This is the trade off for never worrying about layoffs.
This comment didn't age well.
Anonymous
12/10/2024 09:25
Subject: federal employee pay raise 2025
I’m a non-sup gs 15-6. My entire section is non-sup gs 15’s. Feels good. Nobody wants to be an SES
Anonymous
12/10/2024 09:22
Subject: federal employee pay raise 2025
Anonymous wrote:I’m a non supervisory 15. Do other agencies not have those?
They're very rare at my agency. In fact, it's hard to be a non supervisory 14. To be fair, I think the top spots should be supervisory. We need to encourage our people with niche specialties to mentor and help the lower grades. Non supervisory 15s are generally not helping others, but are working on projects by themselves.
Anonymous
12/10/2024 09:14
Subject: federal employee pay raise 2025
I’m a non supervisory 15. Do other agencies not have those?
Anonymous
12/09/2024 22:23
Subject: federal employee pay raise 2025
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As someone who was laid off in my mid-50s and many months later landed what I consider to be a plum government position (non-supervisory GS14s6), I will take the security over higher pay any day. And the pay isn’t bad, considering.
Not much difference between GS 14 and 15s these days. As such, a lot of the supervisory 15s are leaving when given the opportunity. I just lost two 15 attorneys to private and one 15 to a government agency not using the GS scale.
Yup, happened with me too. Two of my colleagues requested to be a GS14-10 as 15 wasn't worth the trouble.
I am a 14s10 with no plans to apply for a 15. Its not much more $$ and lots more pressure. Depending on how RTO, I will consider moving down to a 13 to be BU again as they only have to go in 1 day a week according to contract. NBUs could be back in 5 days with two blinks from Trump. 10 hours of commute time ... its not worth being a 14 either.
GS 14 here. I’d never apply for a 15. Feds don’t support managers, there’s no way to rid bad performers, and the money is almost the same. Give me some tools to get rid of bad performers. I’ve seen poor Gs 15s given groups of poor performers and just getting sunk.
Anonymous
12/09/2024 22:17
Subject: federal employee pay raise 2025
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Last year's was historically high. So we all got a morale boost and now it will average out to just normal bump in COLA. We really can't complain, that combined with reliable step increases not tied to performance is a pretty sweet deal.
It is? Maybe for a middling run of the mill employee. High performers are underpaid and will continue to be. The 5k max bonus at my agency for a 15 is sad.
The cola wasn’t a morale boost either. It didn’t even keep up with inflation. We need a few more 5% increases just to do that.
PP, how do you know the max bonus at your agency?
DP but my agency has an award policy and lists the max bonus. It is 7500 for non-SES.
Np. Ours is 5% but typically non supervisors won’t go that high.
My Dh is a fed who has won awards for his performance. He’s never once had a bonus. His agency doesn’t do them. I’m surprised more people don’t talk about that. I’m close with many people at his agency and none get bonuses.
Anonymous
12/09/2024 20:11
Subject: federal employee pay raise 2025
I hope that when the new Department of Retaliation and Retribution forms, it won't be on the GS scale.
Anonymous
12/09/2024 20:08
Subject: federal employee pay raise 2025
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is the trade off for never worrying about layoffs.
This didn’t age well
Indeed
Anonymous
12/09/2024 19:26
Subject: federal employee pay raise 2025
Anonymous wrote:This is the trade off for never worrying about layoffs.
This didn’t age well
Anonymous
12/09/2024 19:03
Subject: federal employee pay raise 2025
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As someone who was laid off in my mid-50s and many months later landed what I consider to be a plum government position (non-supervisory GS14s6), I will take the security over higher pay any day. And the pay isn’t bad, considering.
Not much difference between GS 14 and 15s these days. As such, a lot of the supervisory 15s are leaving when given the opportunity. I just lost two 15 attorneys to private and one 15 to a government agency not using the GS scale.
Yup, happened with me too. Two of my colleagues requested to be a GS14-10 as 15 wasn't worth the trouble.
I am a 14s10 with no plans to apply for a 15. Its not much more $$ and lots more pressure. Depending on how RTO, I will consider moving down to a 13 to be BU again as they only have to go in 1 day a week according to contract. NBUs could be back in 5 days with two blinks from Trump. 10 hours of commute time ... its not worth being a 14 either.