Anonymous
Post 06/05/2024 03:53     Subject: if me DD’s odds
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Anonymous wrote:How does she have a 4.1 uw? She seems like a great well-rounded kid but I don't see anything distinctive (in terms of excellence) in her profile. If she's applying as an Art major with an awesome portfolio, maybe? If she writes amazing essays and has strong teacher recs?

But I'd encourage her to focus on T30-50 schools.


This is silly. My ds is nowhere near any of this and got into five 30-50 schools 2 years ago non ED. OP's dd has a shot ED at non HYP Ivy for sure.



Gender is an important factor. Girls majoring in the humanities are not exceptional. And things have only gotten more competitive in the past two years.

They most certainly are. She has a great chance but did you say major? Art is, of course, portfolio based.


What? No. Male humanities majors get the biggest bump in admissions. Followed by female STEM majors. Girl humanities majors overall are disadvantaged, because they are overrepresented. Male STEM majors are also disadvantaged due to overrepresentation.

If she's not locked into a major at the time of application, strategically she should consider expressing interest in majoring in art. Would help her stand out a little. She can always drop it to a minor later on.

You are way out of date. To reiterate your absurd point: female humanities majors are at a disadvantage vis a vis other majors. Um, no. They have a big advantage — just not as big as males. Not only are your larger points wrong, but your smaller points are as well: history is a “boy” major. Yes, English is a “girl” major — but there are not enough English majors, so schools want them. Female STEM applicants, as you call them, are at a major — pardon the pun — disadvantage for biological/environmental sciences, which are female-dominated. As for other STEM majors, do you really think schools want more science or CS applicants, so long as they are female? Engineering schools like RPI? Sure. Anyone else? Nope.

I can only hope you are not in the “profession.” If so, get a new one.


DP, this is unnecessarily nasty and also not helpful.


Another DP. I also think it was inaccurate. I think the earlier PP was more accurate with the exception that STEM is oversubscribed across the board (unless a girl is applying to the likes of RPI or Union or Stevens, etc that are male heavy)


Agree.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2024 03:46     Subject: if me DD’s odds
Anonymous wrote:DD applying ED to non-HYP Ivy. I’d classify her as “average excellent” with an artsy/interesting streak. Top line info:
-Double legacy
-4.1 uw at good public in Northeast
-10 APs by end of senior year (others all honors)
-Most likely NMSF
-34 ACT (took 2X, doesn’t want to take again)
-Junior Book Award (from the school she’s applying to but obv that has nothing to do w them)
-Scholastic Gold Key in Art
-Award for best in drawing in our state
-Painting award, 1st place (county level)
-Ntnl Art Honor Society pres
-School musical and plays all four years (no leads)
-Newspaper (staff writer, 4 years; social media editor, 3 years; layout editor, 2 years)
-School of Rock (guitar and vocals, 2 years)
-Key Club (4 years) with varied projects - she genuinely enjoys volunteering
-Schoolhouse SAT tutor
-Ambassador for creative writing and literature summer program

Reading about the nonprofit founders and scientific research kids, I feel like mine has no shot. Any input?
Which major?
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2024 23:03     Subject: Re:if me DD’s odds
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Anonymous wrote:You people are insane. My dd had nowhere near the ECs and didn't have a perfect GPA and got into Cornell. No legacy, no connections. Just a rich white girl from the burbs.

She's clearly qualified. It's just luck otherwise


Lots of kids like this get into cornell. It is why it is considered a baby ivy.


What is a baby ivy?


+2
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Post 06/04/2024 22:54     Subject: if me DD’s odds
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Anonymous wrote:How does she have a 4.1 uw? She seems like a great well-rounded kid but I don't see anything distinctive (in terms of excellence) in her profile. If she's applying as an Art major with an awesome portfolio, maybe? If she writes amazing essays and has strong teacher recs?

But I'd encourage her to focus on T30-50 schools.


This is silly. My ds is nowhere near any of this and got into five 30-50 schools 2 years ago non ED. OP's dd has a shot ED at non HYP Ivy for sure.



Gender is an important factor. Girls majoring in the humanities are not exceptional. And things have only gotten more competitive in the past two years.

They most certainly are. She has a great chance but did you say major? Art is, of course, portfolio based.


What? No. Male humanities majors get the biggest bump in admissions. Followed by female STEM majors. Girl humanities majors overall are disadvantaged, because they are overrepresented. Male STEM majors are also disadvantaged due to overrepresentation.

If she's not locked into a major at the time of application, strategically she should consider expressing interest in majoring in art. Would help her stand out a little. She can always drop it to a minor later on.

You are way out of date. To reiterate your absurd point: female humanities majors are at a disadvantage vis a vis other majors. Um, no. They have a big advantage — just not as big as males. Not only are your larger points wrong, but your smaller points are as well: history is a “boy” major. Yes, English is a “girl” major — but there are not enough English majors, so schools want them. Female STEM applicants, as you call them, are at a major — pardon the pun — disadvantage for biological/environmental sciences, which are female-dominated. As for other STEM majors, do you really think schools want more science or CS applicants, so long as they are female? Engineering schools like RPI? Sure. Anyone else? Nope.

I can only hope you are not in the “profession.” If so, get a new one.


DP, this is unnecessarily nasty and also not helpful.


Another DP. I also think it was inaccurate. I think the earlier PP was more accurate with the exception that STEM is oversubscribed across the board (unless a girl is applying to the likes of RPI or Union or Stevens, etc that are male heavy)
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2024 22:48     Subject: if me DD’s odds
Anonymous wrote:I know this is a tough admit, particularly for a girl, but what about Brown/RISD five year dual degree?

https://www.brown.edu/academics/brown-risd-dual-degree/home


DP. She would have to be HIGHLY talented at art. B/R dual has like a 3% admit rate, and way more females apply, so likely a 1% admit. Is that really OPs kid? I am advising a kid now who wants PLME but will be VERY lucky to get into Brown at all. You have play your hand wisely.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2024 22:44     Subject: if me DD’s odds
She may have a shot, but you can't lump Ivies together. Brown is a MUCH harder admit fir a female than Cornell or Penn or Dartmouth.

4.1 is weighted or it's not a 4.0 scale. If an A+ exceeds the scale, that is a means of weighting. If not, the scale is out of whatever A+ equals (4.3?). Convert to a true UW to have a better sense of GPA. But, I'm sure it's fine.

Shoot you shot, tell your story, but just don't count on anything. And stop comparing to the kids who cured cancer. They are either out of almost everyone's league or riding on the coattails of a parent. No need for comparison. Compare to other kids in your school.

Your double legacy will count more at some places than others. Do your research on that.

Good luck!
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2024 22:29     Subject: if me DD’s odds
Bennington
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Post 06/04/2024 22:27     Subject: if me DD’s odds
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How does she have a 4.1 uw? She seems like a great well-rounded kid but I don't see anything distinctive (in terms of excellence) in her profile. If she's applying as an Art major with an awesome portfolio, maybe? If she writes amazing essays and has strong teacher recs?

But I'd encourage her to focus on T30-50 schools.


At her school A+ is over a 4.0.

I tend to agree with you on your assessment. She is a very strong writer and should have great recs (physics and English teachers), but I don’t think there’s anything extraordinary…which ofc is what you need at those schools. She will submit her art portfolio… but I’m girding myself for bad news.


A female URM (Middle Eastern) student at my kid’s large public high school was accepted to Cornell Engineering test optional. Your kid has a great deal going for her. I believe she will have a good shot at Brown and Cornell. Best wishes.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2024 22:06     Subject: if me DD’s odds
Anonymous wrote:Laying it all out…She’s a full-pay white girl interested in the humanities BUT truly enjoys all subjects. Taking Calc BC next year, took AP Physics I this year and liked it (considered taking Physics C next year but didn’t really make sense since she’s not a STEM person and and will be taking 5 APs). She’s an old school liberal arts kid.


Maybe she'd be happy at...a liberal arts college!
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2024 21:10     Subject: if me DD’s odds
I know this is a tough admit, particularly for a girl, but what about Brown/RISD five year dual degree?

https://www.brown.edu/academics/brown-risd-dual-degree/home
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2024 20:21     Subject: if me DD’s odds
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Anonymous wrote:What are the exam grades for those 10 AP classes?
They will need to be all 5's


This has been asked and flagged as important, op ignored.


Not ignoring! Busy doing life. Anyway, she got a 4 on Euro last year. Waiting on 4 from this year (APUSH, Lang, Physics & Art). Next year she’s taking Lit, BC, APES, Spanish & US Gov.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2024 20:12     Subject: if me DD’s odds
Anonymous wrote:Oh, and she doesn’t want to major in Art. Minor maybe. More interested in English and History.


English & history are way too mainstream & predictable for a female. Highly recommend she start a paper trail that makes it appear that she’s fascinated by philosophy, a field typically shunned by women. She can switch to English or History once she gets past the first semester.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2024 20:12     Subject: if me DD’s odds
DC did ED to Cornell for CS 2 years ago.

Straight As (school does not have A+) in every class all 4 years. SAT 1540 (800 math). Took multi variable/linear algebra and AP Physics C senior year. Attended VA Governors school summer before senior year. He was deferred ED and accepted RD.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2024 20:04     Subject: if me DD’s odds
Journalism and Art say Cornell to me.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2024 20:04     Subject: if me DD’s odds
Anonymous wrote:What are the exam grades for those 10 AP classes?
They will need to be all 5's


This has been asked and flagged as important, op ignored.