Does anyone know having IEP increase the changes for local CES lottery selection? Kid is privately tested gifted , above 140 wisc.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this true all lottery selected? Our school has local CES( one of the few mcps). My kid is selected as GT from 2nd grade gifted letter this year. Does my kid have a higher chance to be in local CES program at home school? Does my school have ELC program or not?

Do teacher's kids , PTA officer kids or active volunteer's kids have higher chances in CES?

Our school has never told us anything about ELC , CES, GT . There is lack of transparency issue. We are at Rachel Carson.

In the past, it was easier to get into a local CES than a regional one; however enrollment has really dropped at RCES, so I don’t know any specifics about their CES anymore. How many classes are there for your child’s cohort and are there now 1 or 2 CES classes? Your child will only be competing for a spot with their RCES cohort.

Because it's lottery CES also isn't the same as it once was. The local CES at our school typically excludes 99% because lotteries are random. Sure, many of the selected kids are in the 92%+ range but many are also in the 70% range because of experience factors. That's fine but the program at this point is silly. They need to rethink it.

If pp’s child’s cohort at RCES has 5 classes per grade and one class per grade is CES, then even if every single child qualified to be in the lottery, they’d each have roughly a 20% chance of getting in. If there are only 4 classes per grade, they’d have a roughly 25% chance of getting in, worst case scenario. Those odds have got to be higher than students in the lottery for a regional CES.

The state of gifted education in MCPS is a hot mess including CES. MCPS needs to rethink how they identify and support kids who are actually gifted not just smart with pushy parents. CES were meant to teach gifted kids that home schools could not accommodate since their needs were so far out of the norm. There is zero point having CES if CES serves the same kids as served at their homeschool. MCPS needs to identify kids who are statistically so outside the norm at their homeschool to the extent the homeschool cannot serve them. These kids need special education services to have their educational needs met and clinically gifted kids fall in this bucket of outliers. There really is currently no point to CES. It seems a remanent of a time when MCPS actually tried to offer appropriate education that matched the needs of the child and kids could get taught at a remedial, on grade level, above grade level or even way way above grade level pace.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this true all lottery selected? Our school has local CES( one of the few mcps). My kid is selected as GT from 2nd grade gifted letter this year. Does my kid have a higher chance to be in local CES program at home school? Does my school have ELC program or not?

Do teacher's kids , PTA officer kids or active volunteer's kids have higher chances in CES?

Our school has never told us anything about ELC , CES, GT . There is lack of transparency issue. We are at Rachel Carson.

In the past, it was easier to get into a local CES than a regional one; however enrollment has really dropped at RCES, so I don’t know any specifics about their CES anymore. How many classes are there for your child’s cohort and are there now 1 or 2 CES classes? Your child will only be competing for a spot with their RCES cohort.

Because it's lottery CES also isn't the same as it once was. The local CES at our school typically excludes 99% because lotteries are random. Sure, many of the selected kids are in the 92%+ range but many are also in the 70% range because of experience factors. That's fine but the program at this point is silly. They need to rethink it.

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Anonymous wrote:My ES has ELC for all 4th and 5th graders yet kids are still being targeted from the lottery to enroll in our local CES (Coldspring). Why? Seems ridiculous and duplicative. They should be targeting kids at schools that don't offer ELC. As a result, we'll lose kids from our school and therefore staff if we have a lower student population and with cuts you betcha we'll be cut staff. Unreal

I don’t understand this ELC for ALL model. That defeats the point of having ELC. If they want different books and even novel studies in the on level classes then include that. But ELC for ALL is the same as Honors for ALL is MS, pointless.

The entire point of waiting until 4th/5th grade for enrolling kids in ELC or compacted math is because at that point you can tell if students really need vastly different instruction vs they are just young and learning basic that click at different times for everyone but usually by 3rd.

The for-all model is fantastic!! It raises everyone to a higher level. For example, my kids in remedial math took AP Calc BC for all and got an A++.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this true all lottery selected? Our school has local CES( one of the few mcps). My kid is selected as GT from 2nd grade gifted letter this year. Does my kid have a higher chance to be in local CES program at home school? Does my school have ELC program or not?

Do teacher's kids , PTA officer kids or active volunteer's kids have higher chances in CES?

Our school has never told us anything about ELC , CES, GT . There is lack of transparency issue. We are at Rachel Carson.

In the past, it was easier to get into a local CES than a regional one; however enrollment has really dropped at RCES, so I don’t know any specifics about their CES anymore. How many classes are there for your child’s cohort and are there now 1 or 2 CES classes? Your child will only be competing for a spot with their RCES cohort.