Anonymous
Post 05/31/2024 17:47     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

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Anonymous wrote:Potomac tried to go the alliance route with Metro United. That didn't end well.

Seems like MSI has the best chance of any MoCo club to challenge Bethesda. They have a long was to go, but pretty much every other club in the DMV with a large rec program is competitive at the travel level.


OBGC used to have great teams and had the Academy team years ago. They know how to support higher level teams, they just aren’t though.

MSI has taken steps in the right direction of late. There is hope if they can keep it up.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2024 16:56     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

PG County could use a girls ECNL program to compete with Bethesda
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2024 16:42     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone heard the latest updates on JC’s investigation for forging documents?


This is true. He’s being sued by a family because he forged the registration documents. Also, most of the U9 team is leaving BSC because of this.

What? Details?


Cease and Desist letter sent to the Board early this week.

Can you summarize the allegations in the letter?


From what I know, the player code of conduct was purposefully and fraudulently changed and used as a way to control the boys from playing a summer tournament. the change reflected an "agreement" that indicates the club keeping players from playing in the summer, when the original agreement signed by parents ends on May 31. this change was caught by a metadata analysis. The change was deliberate. So this opened the door to more questions about whether this type of behavior was a one-off issue. Turns out it wasn't and after speaking with many former and current parents, countless stories surfaced of abuse and punitive behavior across the board on the boys and girls side. The stories from the girls side, specifically, are appalling. The letter requests the board to investigate these cases and provide parents the protection to speak without fear. For too long, this club has used fear tactics to keep people from speaking up. and for those that have, the response is "thanks for your feedback" or punishments affecting their kids position on teams. parents have also talked about retaliation they faced on siblings for players leaving or trying out. more and more stories will come out from this. and just so everyone is aware - this is not every club or every coach. the great coaches at bethesda who care about the kids and do the right thing are not empowered by JC to lead the organization. there are great people in this club which is why the rottenness needs to end. abusive behavior should never be tolerated and corrupt favoritism needs to end.

Interesting—thanks for the info. Do you know why the BSC leadership didn’t want the kids to play in the summer tournament?

I certainly agree with you that there are a lot of good coaches and families at the club, and it would be great if the club were led by competent and caring people. An independent board and transparency about discussions at board meetings would be a big improvement as well. McLean used to notify members of upcoming board meetings and would post the minutes from the meetings. Every not-for-profit should do so.


Not PP and I don’t know the details of why JC took such a stand, but I know it was 7 year olds just trying to play some summer soccer. Frankly this embodies everything wrong with youth soccer that JC went to war over little kids just wanting to play some soccer over the summer. Take a moment and reflect on how absurd that is.

There are no practices or tourneys over the summer. Everything costs extra. Certainly at the younger ages (don’t know about high school). They want ridiculous amounts of money for Super Y u10 and up; not even an option for the really little ones.

The Board is a black hole.


Forging a document to keep kids from playing summer soccer opened up a Pandora’s box of way bigger and insane abuses. This is just the tip of the iceberg. The Board will have to deal with the pressure from parents. This is just the beginning.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2024 15:34     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone heard the latest updates on JC’s investigation for forging documents?


This is true. He’s being sued by a family because he forged the registration documents. Also, most of the U9 team is leaving BSC because of this.

What? Details?


Cease and Desist letter sent to the Board early this week.

Can you summarize the allegations in the letter?


From what I know, the player code of conduct was purposefully and fraudulently changed and used as a way to control the boys from playing a summer tournament. the change reflected an "agreement" that indicates the club keeping players from playing in the summer, when the original agreement signed by parents ends on May 31. this change was caught by a metadata analysis. The change was deliberate. So this opened the door to more questions about whether this type of behavior was a one-off issue. Turns out it wasn't and after speaking with many former and current parents, countless stories surfaced of abuse and punitive behavior across the board on the boys and girls side. The stories from the girls side, specifically, are appalling. The letter requests the board to investigate these cases and provide parents the protection to speak without fear. For too long, this club has used fear tactics to keep people from speaking up. and for those that have, the response is "thanks for your feedback" or punishments affecting their kids position on teams. parents have also talked about retaliation they faced on siblings for players leaving or trying out. more and more stories will come out from this. and just so everyone is aware - this is not every club or every coach. the great coaches at bethesda who care about the kids and do the right thing are not empowered by JC to lead the organization. there are great people in this club which is why the rottenness needs to end. abusive behavior should never be tolerated and corrupt favoritism needs to end.

Interesting—thanks for the info. Do you know why the BSC leadership didn’t want the kids to play in the summer tournament?

I certainly agree with you that there are a lot of good coaches and families at the club, and it would be great if the club were led by competent and caring people. An independent board and transparency about discussions at board meetings would be a big improvement as well. McLean used to notify members of upcoming board meetings and would post the minutes from the meetings. Every not-for-profit should do so.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2024 14:57     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

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Anonymous wrote:Well organized tryouts?!!! Hahahaha
75 kids. No bibs or numbers. Don’t even ask names. Small space keep away Coaches barely watching (some. Some actually are good )


The YDP program gave all of the kids numbers at tryouts.


This is true


The storm is coming.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2024 14:51     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well organized tryouts?!!! Hahahaha
75 kids. No bibs or numbers. Don’t even ask names. Small space keep away Coaches barely watching (some. Some actually are good )


The YDP program gave all of the kids numbers at tryouts.


This is true
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2024 14:38     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

Winter is coming.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2024 13:58     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

dark clouds
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2024 13:35     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well organized tryouts?!!! Hahahaha
75 kids. No bibs or numbers. Don’t even ask names. Small space keep away Coaches barely watching (some. Some actually are good )


"keep away"??


I got it. nevermind.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2024 13:32     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

Anonymous wrote:Well organized tryouts?!!! Hahahaha
75 kids. No bibs or numbers. Don’t even ask names. Small space keep away Coaches barely watching (some. Some actually are good )


"keep away"??
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2024 13:23     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

Anonymous wrote:Well organized tryouts?!!! Hahahaha
75 kids. No bibs or numbers. Don’t even ask names. Small space keep away Coaches barely watching (some. Some actually are good )


The YDP program gave all of the kids numbers at tryouts.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2024 09:58     Subject: Re:Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

Anonymous wrote:Is there proof or reason to believe that MN comes here to defend the club? Is this just a suspicion or what leads some of you to believe it is him and not some random parent who loves the favoritism they've been given at BSC?


MN leave that keyboard
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2024 09:11     Subject: Re:Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

Is there proof or reason to believe that MN comes here to defend the club? Is this just a suspicion or what leads some of you to believe it is him and not some random parent who loves the favoritism they've been given at BSC?
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2024 08:40     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone heard the latest updates on JC’s investigation for forging documents?


This is true. He’s being sued by a family because he forged the registration documents. Also, most of the U9 team is leaving BSC because of this.

What? Details?


Cease and Desist letter sent to the Board early this week.

Can you summarize the allegations in the letter?


Also, what is a registration “document”? Isn’t registration done on-line?
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2024 08:34     Subject: Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone heard the latest updates on JC’s investigation for forging documents?


This is true. He’s being sued by a family because he forged the registration documents. Also, most of the U9 team is leaving BSC because of this.

What? Details?


Cease and Desist letter sent to the Board early this week.

Can you summarize the allegations in the letter?