Anonymous
Post 07/21/2024 21:02     Subject: Should a swimmer do IAS (NVSL) and NCSA Summer Champs
I guess we'll find out tomorrow if all those teenagers on the psych sheets for NSCA/Futures/ISCA are scratching to do IAS instead...
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2024 08:01     Subject: Should a swimmer do IAS (NVSL) and NCSA Summer Champs
Anonymous wrote:Not nvsl, but on the mcsl side, a lot of older swimmers love all stars and try to swim in the meet. Last year a bunch came straight back from Futures. And yes they are serious swimmers.


Well yes, Futures ended on a Saturday so it was easy to get back and swim Sunday. No conflict.

No one is debating if they enjoy it or not, but rather which they prioritize.

With the exception of graduating seniors, they would not have skipped Futures for the MCSL all star meet.
Anonymous
Post 05/25/2024 06:06     Subject: Should a swimmer do IAS (NVSL) and NCSA Summer Champs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not nvsl, but on the mcsl side, a lot of older swimmers love all stars and try to swim in the meet. Last year a bunch came straight back from Futures. And yes they are serious swimmers.

No one is saying that the elite swimmers don’t enjoy all stars, or that they would skip it if there were no conflicts. But you can enjoy something while also not considering it a top priority.


+1
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2024 12:18     Subject: Should a swimmer do IAS (NVSL) and NCSA Summer Champs
Anonymous wrote:Not nvsl, but on the mcsl side, a lot of older swimmers love all stars and try to swim in the meet. Last year a bunch came straight back from Futures. And yes they are serious swimmers.

No one is saying that the elite swimmers don’t enjoy all stars, or that they would skip it if there were no conflicts. But you can enjoy something while also not considering it a top priority.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2024 12:02     Subject: Should a swimmer do IAS (NVSL) and NCSA Summer Champs
Not nvsl, but on the mcsl side, a lot of older swimmers love all stars and try to swim in the meet. Last year a bunch came straight back from Futures. And yes they are serious swimmers.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2024 09:06     Subject: Should a swimmer do IAS (NVSL) and NCSA Summer Champs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My main issue is that parents here can’t fathom that some really fast older swimmers care about summer league AND long course AND will be able to swim in college. If your kid doesn’t care about summer swim, that’s fine. But this snobby attitude that fast kids who do take summer swim seriously aren’t serious swimmers is really annoying


If they care about the camraderie or being a role model for the little ones or being there for relays/dual meets, I get that.

If you literally mean they care about their time in a 50 breast SCM and would miss a national level meet to swim it at Divisionals/All Stars- Yeah, I can't fathom that.

+1. No one is saying summer swim is bad, but let’s be honest, it’s an 8 week long recreation league with events that 13 and over club swimmers no longer swim (with the exception of the 50 free). It’s crazy to pretend that a serious swimmer cares about it as much, or takes it as seriously, as they take club and national meets. It’s a fun, low-pressure diversion for them to be sure, but it’s not exactly the top of the priority list.


I think most parents care more about the LC meet, most kids care more about all stars if you actually ask them. Even the older ones would rather go to summer all stars than the national meet. But their coaches tell them it’s more important, so they go there. But they really want to be at all stars.

I actually have a kid in this situation and they really do not care a whole lot about all stars. They will of course go and have fun if there are no conflicts, but it’s not a priority for them.