Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looking to move into the area but I am a little turned off by the fact that it is almost 85% caucasian whereas every other school in the area is more like 60-70%. Are there any other schools this homogeneous in FCPS?
Caucasian = MAGA.
Pretty much any town, city or county that’s plurality white should be avoided.
Anonymous wrote:Looking to move into the area but I am a little turned off by the fact that it is almost 85% caucasian whereas every other school in the area is more like 60-70%. Are there any other schools this homogeneous in FCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looking to move into the area but I am a little turned off by the fact that it is almost 85% caucasian whereas every other school in the area is more like 60-70%. Are there any other schools this homogeneous in FCPS?
Caucasian = MAGA.
Anonymous wrote:The second generations for social status is more reflective of what it was in their families country of origin. Mom and dad might have been engineers or MDs ect in the home country, but many of these professional credentials don’t transfer well to the US, so the income is lower than what would be predicted by family education level/wealt. The over performance for Asian Immigrant children (in low income families) is mostly illusionary social mobility. Immigrant populations in the US are usually not a random sample of people from a given country that reflect the skill/ability distribution of the overall population. The Asian immigrants that are allowed to move to the US and have the resources to do so tend to have higher than average intelligence. The US immigration system effectively has a lot of barriers that reject people who are below average. So it’s not surprising their kids tend to do better than what would be predicted based on the first gen immigrant parents income. If you took a random sample of 1000 families from any of these countries and moved them to the US the kids outcomes in school would not show the same level of over performance.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I was bored and looked up every elementary school. Below are the four least diverse elementary schools in FCPS. Lynbrook is the least diverse, but Waynewood is the whitest.
Lynbrook
85.5% Hispanic
8% Asian
3.8% Caucasian
Graham Road
82.7% Hispanic
7% Caucasian
5% Black
Waynewood
82.6% Caucasian
6% Hispanic
6.7% Other
Hybla Valley
82% Hispanic
9.6% Black
4.5% Asian
Is that a good thing?
All you need to do is look at test scores to find out.
Lynbrook:
Math: 39%
Reading: 36%
Science: 50%
Graham Road:
Math: 45%
Reading: 51%
Science: 51%
Waynewood:
Math: 91%
Reading: 92%
Science: 82%
Hybla Valley:
Math: 39%
Reading: 38%
Science: 47%
The Waynewood scores are really low for a high-SES school, presumably because there are no Asian kids. If it was a majority Asian school, all of the scores would be in the high 90s. All this is telling me is that it's not as good of a school as you think it is.
Blatant racism about how Asians are good at tests aside...
The "goodness" of a school doesn't really have much to do with the average scores so much as the amount of distraction from learning caused by large populations of underperforming students. If your kid is average, but in a class with 20 kids who don't speak English, or don't bother doing work, etc. etc. then your kid will lose out on their education because the teachers will be focused elsewhere. If on the other hand your kid is surrounded by other good kids who are there to learn, it doesn't matter if they're sterotypical Asian math experts, your kid will still be able to maximize their potential. And THAT is the real difference between Waynweood and, say, Hybla Valley.
Ugh, so tired of people and their stupid "not all asians are good at math" trope. No, sweetie, we know all Asians are not mathletes, but we do know that culturally, the focus on academics is there. And stronger in Asian families (primarily immigrant families) than in caucasian families, so even if my child is academically average, I'm going to force him to study more and ensure he gets good grades instead off making sure he makes the Level 1 travel soccer team so daddy can brag about that.
They get better test scores (in part) because Asian immigrants (in the US) have higher average skill/education levels than other groups. Asian immigrants on average came from higher SES backgrounds in their country of origin. To the extent that social status is transmissible/heritable this skew in average SES will be reflected in the outcomes of their children.
Check the farms rate and test scores in nycs various chinatowns.
You may be surprised to see the results.
https://www.usnews.com/education/k12/new-york/ps-163-flushing-heights-221536#scores
That one is 84% economically disadvantaged and 81% Asian but look at the scores
The second generations for social status is more reflective of what it was in their families country of origin. Mom and dad might have been engineers or MDs ect in the home country, but many of these professional credentials don’t transfer well to the US, so the income is lower than what would be predicted by family education level/wealt. The over performance for Asian Immigrant children (in low income families) is mostly illusionary social mobility. Immigrant populations in the US are usually not a random sample of people from a given country that reflect the skill/ability distribution of the overall population. The Asian immigrants that are allowed to move to the US and have the resources to do so tend to have higher than average intelligence. The US immigration system effectively has a lot of barriers that reject people who are below average. So it’s not surprising their kids tend to do better than what would be predicted based on the first gen immigrant parents income. If you took a random sample of 1000 families from any of these countries and moved them to the US the kids outcomes in school would not show the same level of over performance.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I was bored and looked up every elementary school. Below are the four least diverse elementary schools in FCPS. Lynbrook is the least diverse, but Waynewood is the whitest.
Lynbrook
85.5% Hispanic
8% Asian
3.8% Caucasian
Graham Road
82.7% Hispanic
7% Caucasian
5% Black
Waynewood
82.6% Caucasian
6% Hispanic
6.7% Other
Hybla Valley
82% Hispanic
9.6% Black
4.5% Asian
Is that a good thing?
All you need to do is look at test scores to find out.
Lynbrook:
Math: 39%
Reading: 36%
Science: 50%
Graham Road:
Math: 45%
Reading: 51%
Science: 51%
Waynewood:
Math: 91%
Reading: 92%
Science: 82%
Hybla Valley:
Math: 39%
Reading: 38%
Science: 47%
The Waynewood scores are really low for a high-SES school, presumably because there are no Asian kids. If it was a majority Asian school, all of the scores would be in the high 90s. All this is telling me is that it's not as good of a school as you think it is.
Blatant racism about how Asians are good at tests aside...
The "goodness" of a school doesn't really have much to do with the average scores so much as the amount of distraction from learning caused by large populations of underperforming students. If your kid is average, but in a class with 20 kids who don't speak English, or don't bother doing work, etc. etc. then your kid will lose out on their education because the teachers will be focused elsewhere. If on the other hand your kid is surrounded by other good kids who are there to learn, it doesn't matter if they're sterotypical Asian math experts, your kid will still be able to maximize their potential. And THAT is the real difference between Waynweood and, say, Hybla Valley.
Ugh, so tired of people and their stupid "not all asians are good at math" trope. No, sweetie, we know all Asians are not mathletes, but we do know that culturally, the focus on academics is there. And stronger in Asian families (primarily immigrant families) than in caucasian families, so even if my child is academically average, I'm going to force him to study more and ensure he gets good grades instead off making sure he makes the Level 1 travel soccer team so daddy can brag about that.
They get better test scores (in part) because Asian immigrants (in the US) have higher average skill/education levels than other groups. Asian immigrants on average came from higher SES backgrounds in their country of origin. To the extent that social status is transmissible/heritable this skew in average SES will be reflected in the outcomes of their children.
Check the farms rate and test scores in nycs various chinatowns.
You may be surprised to see the results.
https://www.usnews.com/education/k12/new-york/ps-163-flushing-heights-221536#scores
That one is 84% economically disadvantaged and 81% Asian but look at the scores
Anonymous wrote:Looking to move into the area but I am a little turned off by the fact that it is almost 85% caucasian whereas every other school in the area is more like 60-70%. Are there any other schools this homogeneous in FCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looking to move into the area but I am a little turned off by the fact that it is almost 85% caucasian whereas every other school in the area is more like 60-70%. Are there any other schools this homogeneous in FCPS?
Look at ES that feed into Edison or Hayfield. I don't know the exact demographics but I'd consider Bush Hill ES (an AAP Center) or Hayfield ES.
Anonymous wrote:Looking to move into the area but I am a little turned off by the fact that it is almost 85% caucasian whereas every other school in the area is more like 60-70%. Are there any other schools this homogeneous in FCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I was bored and looked up every elementary school. Below are the four least diverse elementary schools in FCPS. Lynbrook is the least diverse, but Waynewood is the whitest.
Lynbrook
85.5% Hispanic
8% Asian
3.8% Caucasian
Graham Road
82.7% Hispanic
7% Caucasian
5% Black
Waynewood
82.6% Caucasian
6% Hispanic
6.7% Other
Hybla Valley
82% Hispanic
9.6% Black
4.5% Asian
Is that a good thing?
All you need to do is look at test scores to find out.
Lynbrook:
Math: 39%
Reading: 36%
Science: 50%
Graham Road:
Math: 45%
Reading: 51%
Science: 51%
Waynewood:
Math: 91%
Reading: 92%
Science: 82%
Hybla Valley:
Math: 39%
Reading: 38%
Science: 47%
Colvin Run, 52% white
Math 94
Reading 96
Science 96
Maybe it's more about poor kids dragging schools down and less about race
Anonymous wrote:Looking to move into the area but I am a little turned off by the fact that it is almost 85% caucasian whereas every other school in the area is more like 60-70%. Are there any other schools this homogeneous in FCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I was bored and looked up every elementary school. Below are the four least diverse elementary schools in FCPS. Lynbrook is the least diverse, but Waynewood is the whitest.
Lynbrook
85.5% Hispanic
8% Asian
3.8% Caucasian
Graham Road
82.7% Hispanic
7% Caucasian
5% Black
Waynewood
82.6% Caucasian
6% Hispanic
6.7% Other
Hybla Valley
82% Hispanic
9.6% Black
4.5% Asian
Is that a good thing?
All you need to do is look at test scores to find out.
Lynbrook:
Math: 39%
Reading: 36%
Science: 50%
Graham Road:
Math: 45%
Reading: 51%
Science: 51%
Waynewood:
Math: 91%
Reading: 92%
Science: 82%
Hybla Valley:
Math: 39%
Reading: 38%
Science: 47%
Anonymous wrote:I was bored and looked up every elementary school. Below are the four least diverse elementary schools in FCPS. Lynbrook is the least diverse, but Waynewood is the whitest.
Lynbrook
85.5% Hispanic
8% Asian
3.8% Caucasian
Graham Road
82.7% Hispanic
7% Caucasian
5% Black
Waynewood
82.6% Caucasian
6% Hispanic
6.7% Other
Hybla Valley
82% Hispanic
9.6% Black
4.5% Asian
Anonymous wrote:Looking to move into the area but I am a little turned off by the fact that it is almost 85% caucasian whereas every other school in the area is more like 60-70%. Are there any other schools this homogeneous in FCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looking to move into the area but I am a little turned off by the fact that it is almost 85% caucasian whereas every other school in the area is more like 60-70%. Are there any other schools this homogeneous in FCPS?
Just move to Hybla Valley then.