Anonymous wrote:I will never stop being amazed that there are girls and their parents out there who are so disappointed, hurt, shocked, etc., when they are “excluded” from an organization that is deliberately and literally exclusive.

Ohhhh nooo, you wanted to be part of the cool girls who gatekeep and don’t let everyone in? And they didn’t let you be a part of them? And now you don’t have the power to gatekeep and exclude, and being excluded makes you sad? Got it.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Hasn't happened yet but worrying ahead of time because rush happens quickly and over summer. Seems a very stressful start to school. Didn't think it all through.

Each school is different. Some guarantee that you will get a bid, while others do not. What school is she going to?

I've never heard of a school guaranteeing a bid? Which ones?

Tufts used to guarantee bids, last I checked (2018-ish)

All NPC sororities have “guaranteed placement” but that doesn’t mean what you think it does.
It means that if à participant goes through the process and maximizes her options every day (e.g., ranks the houses according to her preference and then continues to go to the houses she is invited back to at every round), then on the LAST night, if she is invited to and attends preference parties at one or two houses, she is guaranteed to be placed in one of those two houses on bid day. In other words, if you go to pref—you are guaranteed to be placed in a house on bid day….thus “guaranteed placement” policy.

This does NOT mean that any house is forced to keep inviting you prior to preference. In fact, every single house can “cut”/drop someone from their invitation list at any time for any unspecified reason (though all NPC groups have non-discrimination clauses, so it won’t be for a protected class reason) during the week. So it’s not super common, but it does happen that girls won’t receive any invitations at all.

But if a house chooses to invite someone to the LAST night (preference night), they must agree to put you on their bid list. You might be dead last in the list, but if they invite you to pref, you are ON the list so they are inviting you knowing that you could show up as a new member the next day.

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Anonymous wrote:Happened to a nephew at Big South University and likely because he was out of state and not hyper/local. Top fraternities are for in-staters only. My brother (his dad) was shocked as we attended same SLAC w/o Greek system.

Would you mind sharing which school? I’ve heard this happens frequently at Oklahoma and Arkansas and at Old Miss for girls.

Anonymous wrote:Happened to a nephew at Big South University and likely because he was out of state and not hyper/local. Top fraternities are for in-staters only. My brother (his dad) was shocked as we attended same SLAC w/o Greek system.

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Anonymous wrote:My cousin's kid got blackballed. She was a triple legacy at one sorority and didn't get it and the other sororities blackballed her too. Apparently the girls from her hometown at the various sororities didn't like her and blackballed her everywhere.

I get the feeling she's the mean popular girl type. She also has brothers rather than sisters and is the adored girl in the family so she's probably a pick me type.

I really hope you are a 20-year-old typing this, PP.
Otherwise, you are much too old to be speaking this way about a young girl.

Sadly, I feel certain you are an adult (use of the word “blackballed” isn’t common among the younger set who probably has no context for that), but to use the phrase “pick me” type is just gross.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of girls were disappointed during the Elon sorority rush this year, but there was one sorority still recruiting in COB so I suspect most could have gotten in to that sorority but rejected it.

Rush is so stressful!!

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Hasn't happened yet but worrying ahead of time because rush happens quickly and over summer. Seems a very stressful start to school. Didn't think it all through.

Each school is different. Some guarantee that you will get a bid, while others do not. What school is she going to?

I've never heard of a school guaranteeing a bid? Which ones?

Tufts used to guarantee bids, last I checked (2018-ish)

All NPC sororities have “guaranteed placement” but that doesn’t mean what you think it does.
It means that if à participant goes through the process and maximizes her options every day (e.g., ranks the houses according to her preference and then continues to go to the houses she is invited back to at every round), then on the LAST night, if she is invited to and attends preference parties at one or two houses, she is guaranteed to be placed in one of those two houses on bid day. In other words, if you go to pref—you are guaranteed to be placed in a house on bid day….thus “guaranteed placement” policy.

This does NOT mean that any house is forced to keep inviting you prior to preference. In fact, every single house can “cut”/drop someone from their invitation list at any time for any unspecified reason (though all NPC groups have non-discrimination clauses, so it won’t be for a protected class reason) during the week. So it’s not super common, but it does happen that girls won’t receive any invitations at all.

But if a house chooses to invite someone to the LAST night (preference night), they must agree to put you on their bid list. You might be dead last in the list, but if they invite you to pref, you are ON the list so they are inviting you knowing that you could show up as a new member the next day.

And if you might be down to one house before pref night in which case your choice is a house you may not want or dropping out.

Yes definitely true.
But at that point it’s still a guaranteed placement.
You can still decide not to be placed, but then you have to accept that it’s you deciding you are too good for a house that wanted you. So….that’s kind of on you, right??

“Guaranteed placement “ means you’re guaranteed a bid from the house with the least interest. From the house that’s struggling to keep its numbers up. From the house that needs the administration to fix the numbers so that more girls end up with this “choice” because they picked the wrong house when they decided to add another one to the campus.

Newsflash:
NPC Sororities are big business.
The egalitarian approach exists because all of NPC knows that for every 2-3 campuses where they have a number one rushing chapter, they have a struggling chapter on another campus that they want to save.
And more importantly, they know that if they just sit back and watch while low-recruiting chapters struggle and close, it’s only a matter of time before their own mid-rushing chapter becomes the one on the bottom. These are very savvy and bright women running this system, and they know that this only works if NPC works together to support each other and build each other up.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Hasn't happened yet but worrying ahead of time because rush happens quickly and over summer. Seems a very stressful start to school. Didn't think it all through.

Each school is different. Some guarantee that you will get a bid, while others do not. What school is she going to?

I've never heard of a school guaranteeing a bid? Which ones?

Tufts used to guarantee bids, last I checked (2018-ish)

All NPC sororities have “guaranteed placement” but that doesn’t mean what you think it does.
It means that if à participant goes through the process and maximizes her options every day (e.g., ranks the houses according to her preference and then continues to go to the houses she is invited back to at every round), then on the LAST night, if she is invited to and attends preference parties at one or two houses, she is guaranteed to be placed in one of those two houses on bid day. In other words, if you go to pref—you are guaranteed to be placed in a house on bid day….thus “guaranteed placement” policy.

This does NOT mean that any house is forced to keep inviting you prior to preference. In fact, every single house can “cut”/drop someone from their invitation list at any time for any unspecified reason (though all NPC groups have non-discrimination clauses, so it won’t be for a protected class reason) during the week. So it’s not super common, but it does happen that girls won’t receive any invitations at all.

But if a house chooses to invite someone to the LAST night (preference night), they must agree to put you on their bid list. You might be dead last in the list, but if they invite you to pref, you are ON the list so they are inviting you knowing that you could show up as a new member the next day.

And if you might be down to one house before pref night in which case your choice is a house you may not want or dropping out.

Yes definitely true.
But at that point it’s still a guaranteed placement.
You can still decide not to be placed, but then you have to accept that it’s you deciding you are too good for a house that wanted you. So….that’s kind of on you, right??

“Guaranteed placement “ means you’re guaranteed a bid from the house with the least interest. From the house that’s struggling to keep its numbers up. From the house that needs the administration to fix the numbers so that more girls end up with this “choice” because they picked the wrong house when they decided to add another one to the campus.

This is wildly inaccurate post.
But I’m sorry you experienced disappointment with the recruitment process that caused you to take it out on a chapter that collectively struggles to be as fabulous at appearing excited and bubbly about making meaningless small talk as the groups you wish had extended a bid to you.