Anonymous
05/02/2024 17:33
Subject: Offer/Tryouts Etiquette
Anonymous wrote:Top players generally get pick of litter and coaches are more patient. It’s multiple bubble players when issues arise
This is true in life as well. Might as well get used to it. Think of how college and grad school admissions work, or basically anything with selective admissions. Some kids wait weeks/months to hear a decision, while they wait for the top students who take their sweet time deciding between multiple early offers.
Anonymous
05/02/2024 16:08
Subject: Offer/Tryouts Etiquette
Top players generally get pick of litter and coaches are more patient. It’s multiple bubble players when issues arise
Anonymous
05/02/2024 14:05
Subject: Offer/Tryouts Etiquette
Anonymous wrote:ya'll take going off topic to a new art form and twist it around and project your insecurities like no other...OPs original question was about contacting clubs that they're registered for a tryout because they got an offer from their #1 club already.
New here, huh?
Anonymous
05/02/2024 13:13
Subject: Offer/Tryouts Etiquette
Yes sir!
Anonymous wrote:ya'll take going off topic to a new art form and twist it around and project your insecurities like no other...OPs original question was about contacting clubs that they're registered for a tryout because they got an offer from their #1 club already.
Anonymous
05/02/2024 10:30
Subject: Offer/Tryouts Etiquette
ya'll take going off topic to a new art form and twist it around and project your insecurities like no other...OPs original question was about contacting clubs that they're registered for a tryout because they got an offer from their #1 club already.
Anonymous
05/02/2024 09:22
Subject: Offer/Tryouts Etiquette
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Who says an offer has to indefinite? But, two days? Two days to make a decision that will last one year? Come on. Clubs can offer 5-6 days to accept. They know other club's schedules.
Or maybe give it some thought before you attend tryouts so you know what you want to do ahead of time. Why wait for an offer to start thinking about what you want to do.
If you're preferred club goes last and you have an offer from your second choice, you have given it thought. The only question is whether or not you are willing to eat a deposit.
Anonymous
05/02/2024 09:19
Subject: Offer/Tryouts Etiquette
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Who says an offer has to indefinite? But, two days? Two days to make a decision that will last one year? Come on. Clubs can offer 5-6 days to accept. They know other club's schedules.
Or maybe give it some thought before you attend tryouts so you know what you want to do ahead of time. Why wait for an offer to start thinking about what you want to do.
Why are all these people trying out where they don't want to go?
I see some folks saying they do it for extra training 🤔
You skip your current club's training to go to a tryout scrimmage for extra training?
You are missing the point. Here's a story. Use Club A, Club B, and Club C. Teams for each are 1st (best), 2nd, and 3rd (worst)
Timmy has been on travel for one year and has developed greatly. He's on Club A Team 3. He wants to move up, but Club A offers him Team 3 again. He wants to see if other clubs would place him in a better/stronger team. He trues out for Club B and gets an offer for Team 2. Then Club C offers him Team 2. Well, now Timmy has these three offers:
Club A Team 3
Club B Team 2
Club C Team 2
Obviously, he'd want to be on a Team 2 so his current team is out. But, based on how tryouts are now Timmy would never know he could have been able to place on a Team 2 with two other clubs.
There is nothing wrong with seeing what clubs may value your kid more at certain positions, etc.
Timmy is still Timmy
Club A team 3 may be better than Club B team 2
How would you know how they value your kid after a tryout? Say that after six months
I know a lot of travel coaches. They choose based on what their team needs. If your kid is a great defender, but the team already has three then he's not as valuable. If another club needs a great defender and is short on them he's more valuable to them. Teams don't want kids just because they are good at soccer in general. They want kids at specific positions. I've been told this by all the travel coaches I know. Keep in mind these are 2014 and up teams.
This rings true with our experience. DC has an offer from somewhere that a teammate also tried out. The teammate did not get an offer, at least not for a higher team. DC and their teammate bring very different things to a team, and the coach told us DC has things they are currently looking for. The problem is that there's a new coach next year for DC's current team and none of us know who might show up to tryouts from outside and what this new coach will look for. Having tryouts so far apart is a real problem. I want this to be DC's decision, but they can't even make up their mind because they don't have all the info.
Anonymous
05/02/2024 09:09
Subject: Offer/Tryouts Etiquette
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Who says an offer has to indefinite? But, two days? Two days to make a decision that will last one year? Come on. Clubs can offer 5-6 days to accept. They know other club's schedules.
Or maybe give it some thought before you attend tryouts so you know what you want to do ahead of time. Why wait for an offer to start thinking about what you want to do.
Why are all these people trying out where they don't want to go?
I see some folks saying they do it for extra training 🤔
You skip your current club's training to go to a tryout scrimmage for extra training?
You are missing the point. Here's a story. Use Club A, Club B, and Club C. Teams for each are 1st (best), 2nd, and 3rd (worst)
Timmy has been on travel for one year and has developed greatly. He's on Club A Team 3. He wants to move up, but Club A offers him Team 3 again. He wants to see if other clubs would place him in a better/stronger team. He trues out for Club B and gets an offer for Team 2. Then Club C offers him Team 2. Well, now Timmy has these three offers:
Club A Team 3
Club B Team 2
Club C Team 2
Obviously, he'd want to be on a Team 2 so his current team is out. But, based on how tryouts are now Timmy would never know he could have been able to place on a Team 2 with two other clubs.
There is nothing wrong with seeing what clubs may value your kid more at certain positions, etc.
Timmy is still Timmy
Club A team 3 may be better than Club B team 2
How would you know how they value your kid after a tryout? Say that after six months
I know a lot of travel coaches. They choose based on what their team needs. If your kid is a great defender, but the team already has three then he's not as valuable. If another club needs a great defender and is short on them he's more valuable to them. Teams don't want kids just because they are good at soccer in general. They want kids at specific positions. I've been told this by all the travel coaches I know. Keep in mind these are 2014 and up teams.
Anonymous
05/02/2024 08:55
Subject: Offer/Tryouts Etiquette
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Who says an offer has to indefinite? But, two days? Two days to make a decision that will last one year? Come on. Clubs can offer 5-6 days to accept. They know other club's schedules.
Or maybe give it some thought before you attend tryouts so you know what you want to do ahead of time. Why wait for an offer to start thinking about what you want to do.
Why are all these people trying out where they don't want to go?
I see some folks saying they do it for extra training 🤔
You skip your current club's training to go to a tryout scrimmage for extra training?
You are missing the point. Here's a story. Use Club A, Club B, and Club C. Teams for each are 1st (best), 2nd, and 3rd (worst)
Timmy has been on travel for one year and has developed greatly. He's on Club A Team 3. He wants to move up, but Club A offers him Team 3 again. He wants to see if other clubs would place him in a better/stronger team. He trues out for Club B and gets an offer for Team 2. Then Club C offers him Team 2. Well, now Timmy has these three offers:
Club A Team 3
Club B Team 2
Club C Team 2
Obviously, he'd want to be on a Team 2 so his current team is out. But, based on how tryouts are now Timmy would never know he could have been able to place on a Team 2 with two other clubs.
There is nothing wrong with seeing what clubs may value your kid more at certain positions, etc.
Timmy is still Timmy
Club A team 3 may be better than Club B team 2
How would you know how they value your kid after a tryout? Say that after six months
Anonymous
05/02/2024 08:52
Subject: Offer/Tryouts Etiquette
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Clubs only give 48 hours. This is the problem and why clubs try to screw kids over.
Example: My kid tries for MYS last week and gets an offer last Friday. Well, he only has two days to accept it. But, VYS and Great Falls are this week. Then next week is Arlington.
What if your kids want to see the best offer they can get before choosing...they can't. We have to play the game and literally accept each offer (with a $300-$400 deposit) and move onto the next tryout.
Again, the tryout system is to screw the kids. There is nothing fair about it. I mean, 48 hours to accept or lose the spot? Really?
There are other kids waiting to hear who will get the spot a kid doesn't take. It's not fair to them have to wait indefinitely.
Who says an offer has to indefinite? But, two days? Two days to make a decision that will last one year? Come on. Clubs can offer 5-6 days to accept. They know other club's schedules.
2 days should be totally fine. The process will go on a long time if every kid gets 5-6 days. Clubs want top kids to commit, that makes perfect sense. And other kids on the team I'm sure want the best players they can get as well. Tryouts are a lot of work and stress for everyone. Letting your special snowflake shop around to every club at their leisure is not helpful to anyone.
Anonymous
05/02/2024 08:49
Subject: Offer/Tryouts Etiquette
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Who says an offer has to indefinite? But, two days? Two days to make a decision that will last one year? Come on. Clubs can offer 5-6 days to accept. They know other club's schedules.
Or maybe give it some thought before you attend tryouts so you know what you want to do ahead of time. Why wait for an offer to start thinking about what you want to do.
Why are all these people trying out where they don't want to go?
I see some folks saying they do it for extra training 🤔
You skip your current club's training to go to a tryout scrimmage for extra training?
You are missing the point. Here's a story. Use Club A, Club B, and Club C. Teams for each are 1st (best), 2nd, and 3rd (worst)
Timmy has been on travel for one year and has developed greatly. He's on Club A Team 3. He wants to move up, but Club A offers him Team 3 again. He wants to see if other clubs would place him in a better/stronger team. He trues out for Club B and gets an offer for Team 2. Then Club C offers him Team 2. Well, now Timmy has these three offers:
Club A Team 3
Club B Team 2
Club C Team 2
Obviously, he'd want to be on a Team 2 so his current team is out. But, based on how tryouts are now Timmy would never know he could have been able to place on a Team 2 with two other clubs.
There is nothing wrong with seeing what clubs may value your kid more at certain positions, etc.
Anonymous
05/02/2024 08:47
Subject: Offer/Tryouts Etiquette
Most are running from one club to another every season trying to solve problems and issues not the fault of the clubs.
Fix the issues in the mirror first
Chasing shadows
Fix the issues in the mirror first
Chasing shadows
Anonymous
05/02/2024 08:44
Subject: Offer/Tryouts Etiquette
Anonymous wrote:Then everyone holds tryouts the first two weeks of June.
That would be ideal. Put the first two weeks of June as the tryout window. I'm fine even saying make it one week. That forces kids/parents to really prioritize where they're planning to go and minimizes the jockeying. It also reduces the tryout window duration and could save parents and clubs significant amounts of time.
That said there would have to be a regulating body to force that kind of thing.
Anonymous
05/02/2024 08:42
Subject: Offer/Tryouts Etiquette
Anonymous wrote:Then everyone holds tryouts the first two weeks of June.
This would be ideal because with tryouts in May clubs are forcing kids to play on teams they won't be on in year. How screwed up is that? Honestly, if they just held tryouts at the end of May it would be fine.
Anonymous
05/02/2024 08:40
Subject: Offer/Tryouts Etiquette
Then everyone holds tryouts the first two weeks of June.