Anonymous
Post 04/24/2024 14:53     Subject: Re:How good is Vanderbilt?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP wants their kid to go to an Ivy, like Cornell or Brown, but not a rich/celebrity kid school like Vanderbilt. Well, Cornell is Ivy in sports conference only and Brown is a destination for many celebrity kids. Why is it that when a non-Ivy matches Ivy standards they’re posers, but when an Ivy does the same they’re the best? OP, I hope your kid thinks more clearly than you do.


News flash…
All of the schools ranked T11-20 or T11-25 are basically the same in terms of quality/academic standards.

It’s fit/feel/vibe/size and match for major that’s different


Sacrilege, how dare you utter such nonsense.


Lol
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2024 14:53     Subject: Re:How good is Vanderbilt?

Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/rankings/college-rankings/best-colleges-2024?mod=ig_collegerankings2024


Vanderbilt is still ranked 13 in this list which measures career outcomes, I recommend Vanderbilt over Cornell or Brown. Plus a better college experience doesn't hurt.


No one cares
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2024 14:49     Subject: Re:How good is Vanderbilt?

https://www.wsj.com/rankings/college-rankings/best-colleges-2024?mod=ig_collegerankings2024


Vanderbilt is still ranked 13 in this list which measures career outcomes, I recommend Vanderbilt over Cornell or Brown. Plus a better college experience doesn't hurt.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2024 14:48     Subject: Re:How good is Vanderbilt?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP wants their kid to go to an Ivy, like Cornell or Brown, but not a rich/celebrity kid school like Vanderbilt. Well, Cornell is Ivy in sports conference only and Brown is a destination for many celebrity kids. Why is it that when a non-Ivy matches Ivy standards they’re posers, but when an Ivy does the same they’re the best? OP, I hope your kid thinks more clearly than you do.


News flash…
All of the schools ranked T11-20 or T11-25 are basically the same in terms of quality/academic standards.

It’s fit/feel/vibe/size and match for major that’s different


Sacrilege, how dare you utter such nonsense.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2024 14:45     Subject: Re:How good is Vanderbilt?

Anonymous wrote:OP wants their kid to go to an Ivy, like Cornell or Brown, but not a rich/celebrity kid school like Vanderbilt. Well, Cornell is Ivy in sports conference only and Brown is a destination for many celebrity kids. Why is it that when a non-Ivy matches Ivy standards they’re posers, but when an Ivy does the same they’re the best? OP, I hope your kid thinks more clearly than you do.


News flash…
All of the schools ranked T11-20 or T11-25 are basically the same in terms of quality/academic standards.

It’s fit/feel/vibe/size and match for major that’s different
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2024 14:32     Subject: Re:How good is Vanderbilt?

OP wants their kid to go to an Ivy, like Cornell or Brown, but not a rich/celebrity kid school like Vanderbilt. Well, Cornell is Ivy in sports conference only and Brown is a destination for many celebrity kids. Why is it that when a non-Ivy matches Ivy standards they’re posers, but when an Ivy does the same they’re the best? OP, I hope your kid thinks more clearly than you do.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2024 14:21     Subject: How good is Vanderbilt?

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Anonymous wrote:Vandy was a very good college 20 years ago, a cut below the Ivies, and doubtlessly it remains a very good college a cut below the Ivies. Given that elite college brands have been taking a clobbering lately, I daresay Vandy looks better and more grounded in more eyes over Columbia and Yale.


Key thing to note is that it is not an ivy, not even Cornell. I recommend the ivies, undergrad ivy cannot be passed up.


You put an awful lot of trust in what originated as a sports division.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2024 12:34     Subject: How good is Vanderbilt?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC wants ED1 to Vandy next year (FCPS). How is the school like, I know it is apparently great for Quality of Life, but how does it compare to an Ivy League school? I want them to go to an Ivy like Cornell or Brown I believe that they are more well known and esteemed, and because I feel like Vandy is like a Wake Forest or Tulane. It feels very overrated, it feels like a southern NEU. Am I wrong? I feel like they can get into an Ivy, I think it would be a waste to go there over an Ivy.


It depends what you mean by “similar to an ivy”. If you mean 75% of undergraduates are in the 1500 and up group(pre-TO) , almost all stem kids took BC calc or multivariable calc in HS, large group of premed gunners, large group of finance bros, focus on liberal arts education even for stem majors, competitive clubs, good med/law/internship placements then yes it is very similar to ivy/T10. Vanderbilt is an excellent well respected school and has been for decades. Who knows why it is getting hate here.
Wake has a slightly less high-testing competitive student body but has the seminar/small classes, good placement and culture of working hard on classes—it is like William&Mary but more sporty. Definitely academic kids at both but not T10/ivy intensity because the majority are not former HS superstars/vals or sals all competing . Tulane is several notches down and is not going to provide anything close to wake or W&M level peer group, let alone Vanderbilt.


If you look at the WSJ analysis of graduates earning the highest salaries in 9 different fields, Vanderbilt only makes one of the nine lists, yet every Ivy league school makes the list for every single profession. Isn't that a more relevant comparison?

I would note, Wake, Tulane and NEU don't make any of the lists.

W&M actually does very well and makes 6 of the 9 lists.



This is inaccurate. William and Mary barely makes the lists of top 20 Public colleges, and is behind schools such as University of Washington and Rutgers. It would not rank at all on the top 20 private college list, which is dominated by the Ivies.



Also worth noting Wake Forest and Tulane have average salaries higher than William and Mary.


https://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/all-bachelors/page/3

Vanderbilt #68
Wake Forest #82
William & Mary #115
Tulane #125

So, true for Wake, but not for Tulane.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2024 12:28     Subject: Re:How good is Vanderbilt?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good luck! Vanderbilt accepted about 22% ED1 this year. Most likely situation is your kid doesn’t get into Vanderbilt so you worrying it’s not good enough is pretty presumptuous of you.

Of course its a great school. It’s been ranked in the top 20 universities in the US for 15+ years now.



We just went through all this. The Early Decision acceptance rate was 15 percent this year. The Regular Decision acceptance rate was 3.7 percent.


That’s ED1 and ED2 combined…
At Vanderbilt, there is basically no bump for ED2. Ed 1 has a much higher acceptance rate (the 22% listed earlier)….when blended with ED2, it brings it back down…..

Almost everyone from our private who applied ED2 to Vanderbilt, was deferred or waitlisted (I forget which).



I think ED2 at schools like Vanderbilt is specifically designed to pick up the top students who didn’t get into Stanford and Harvard and similar during the first round. It doesn’t seem to give an edge to anyone else.


Is this the same strategy at WashU?


Curious abt this too
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2024 12:21     Subject: How good is Vanderbilt?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC wants ED1 to Vandy next year (FCPS). How is the school like, I know it is apparently great for Quality of Life, but how does it compare to an Ivy League school? I want them to go to an Ivy like Cornell or Brown I believe that they are more well known and esteemed, and because I feel like Vandy is like a Wake Forest or Tulane. It feels very overrated, it feels like a southern NEU. Am I wrong? I feel like they can get into an Ivy, I think it would be a waste to go there over an Ivy.


It depends what you mean by “similar to an ivy”. If you mean 75% of undergraduates are in the 1500 and up group(pre-TO) , almost all stem kids took BC calc or multivariable calc in HS, large group of premed gunners, large group of finance bros, focus on liberal arts education even for stem majors, competitive clubs, good med/law/internship placements then yes it is very similar to ivy/T10. Vanderbilt is an excellent well respected school and has been for decades. Who knows why it is getting hate here.
Wake has a slightly less high-testing competitive student body but has the seminar/small classes, good placement and culture of working hard on classes—it is like William&Mary but more sporty. Definitely academic kids at both but not T10/ivy intensity because the majority are not former HS superstars/vals or sals all competing . Tulane is several notches down and is not going to provide anything close to wake or W&M level peer group, let alone Vanderbilt.


If you look at the WSJ analysis of graduates earning the highest salaries in 9 different fields, Vanderbilt only makes one of the nine lists, yet every Ivy league school makes the list for every single profession. Isn't that a more relevant comparison?

I would note, Wake, Tulane and NEU don't make any of the lists.

W&M actually does very well and makes 6 of the 9 lists.



This is inaccurate. William and Mary barely makes the lists of top 20 Public colleges, and is behind schools such as University of Washington and Rutgers. It would not rank at all on the top 20 private college list, which is dominated by the Ivies.


University of Washington has one of the top STEM and CS programs in the country. 1/2 the job categories listed are STEM jobs, so not sure why you would think W&M is a slouch if they are even on the same list as University of Washington. FYI, Rutgers doesn't make any of the STEM lists.

Anonymous
Post 04/24/2024 12:17     Subject: How good is Vanderbilt?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC wants ED1 to Vandy next year (FCPS). How is the school like, I know it is apparently great for Quality of Life, but how does it compare to an Ivy League school? I want them to go to an Ivy like Cornell or Brown I believe that they are more well known and esteemed, and because I feel like Vandy is like a Wake Forest or Tulane. It feels very overrated, it feels like a southern NEU. Am I wrong? I feel like they can get into an Ivy, I think it would be a waste to go there over an Ivy.


It depends what you mean by “similar to an ivy”. If you mean 75% of undergraduates are in the 1500 and up group(pre-TO) , almost all stem kids took BC calc or multivariable calc in HS, large group of premed gunners, large group of finance bros, focus on liberal arts education even for stem majors, competitive clubs, good med/law/internship placements then yes it is very similar to ivy/T10. Vanderbilt is an excellent well respected school and has been for decades. Who knows why it is getting hate here.
Wake has a slightly less high-testing competitive student body but has the seminar/small classes, good placement and culture of working hard on classes—it is like William&Mary but more sporty. Definitely academic kids at both but not T10/ivy intensity because the majority are not former HS superstars/vals or sals all competing . Tulane is several notches down and is not going to provide anything close to wake or W&M level peer group, let alone Vanderbilt.


If you look at the WSJ analysis of graduates earning the highest salaries in 9 different fields, Vanderbilt only makes one of the nine lists, yet every Ivy league school makes the list for every single profession. Isn't that a more relevant comparison?

I would note, Wake, Tulane and NEU don't make any of the lists.

W&M actually does very well and makes 6 of the 9 lists.



This is inaccurate. William and Mary barely makes the lists of top 20 Public colleges, and is behind schools such as University of Washington and Rutgers. It would not rank at all on the top 20 private college list, which is dominated by the Ivies.



Also worth noting Wake Forest and Tulane have average salaries higher than William and Mary.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2024 12:11     Subject: How good is Vanderbilt?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC wants ED1 to Vandy next year (FCPS). How is the school like, I know it is apparently great for Quality of Life, but how does it compare to an Ivy League school? I want them to go to an Ivy like Cornell or Brown I believe that they are more well known and esteemed, and because I feel like Vandy is like a Wake Forest or Tulane. It feels very overrated, it feels like a southern NEU. Am I wrong? I feel like they can get into an Ivy, I think it would be a waste to go there over an Ivy.


It depends what you mean by “similar to an ivy”. If you mean 75% of undergraduates are in the 1500 and up group(pre-TO) , almost all stem kids took BC calc or multivariable calc in HS, large group of premed gunners, large group of finance bros, focus on liberal arts education even for stem majors, competitive clubs, good med/law/internship placements then yes it is very similar to ivy/T10. Vanderbilt is an excellent well respected school and has been for decades. Who knows why it is getting hate here.
Wake has a slightly less high-testing competitive student body but has the seminar/small classes, good placement and culture of working hard on classes—it is like William&Mary but more sporty. Definitely academic kids at both but not T10/ivy intensity because the majority are not former HS superstars/vals or sals all competing . Tulane is several notches down and is not going to provide anything close to wake or W&M level peer group, let alone Vanderbilt.


If you look at the WSJ analysis of graduates earning the highest salaries in 9 different fields, Vanderbilt only makes one of the nine lists, yet every Ivy league school makes the list for every single profession. Isn't that a more relevant comparison?

I would note, Wake, Tulane and NEU don't make any of the lists.

W&M actually does very well and makes 6 of the 9 lists.



This is inaccurate. William and Mary barely makes the lists of top 20 Public colleges, and is behind schools such as University of Washington and Rutgers. It would not rank at all on the top 20 private college list, which is dominated by the Ivies.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2024 12:05     Subject: How good is Vanderbilt?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC wants ED1 to Vandy next year (FCPS). How is the school like, I know it is apparently great for Quality of Life, but how does it compare to an Ivy League school? I want them to go to an Ivy like Cornell or Brown I believe that they are more well known and esteemed, and because I feel like Vandy is like a Wake Forest or Tulane. It feels very overrated, it feels like a southern NEU. Am I wrong? I feel like they can get into an Ivy, I think it would be a waste to go there over an Ivy.


It depends what you mean by “similar to an ivy”. If you mean 75% of undergraduates are in the 1500 and up group(pre-TO) , almost all stem kids took BC calc or multivariable calc in HS, large group of premed gunners, large group of finance bros, focus on liberal arts education even for stem majors, competitive clubs, good med/law/internship placements then yes it is very similar to ivy/T10. Vanderbilt is an excellent well respected school and has been for decades. Who knows why it is getting hate here.
Wake has a slightly less high-testing competitive student body but has the seminar/small classes, good placement and culture of working hard on classes—it is like William&Mary but more sporty. Definitely academic kids at both but not T10/ivy intensity because the majority are not former HS superstars/vals or sals all competing . Tulane is several notches down and is not going to provide anything close to wake or W&M level peer group, let alone Vanderbilt.


Here is the link: https://www.wsj.com/news/collection/college-pay-80428504
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2024 12:04     Subject: How good is Vanderbilt?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC wants ED1 to Vandy next year (FCPS). How is the school like, I know it is apparently great for Quality of Life, but how does it compare to an Ivy League school? I want them to go to an Ivy like Cornell or Brown I believe that they are more well known and esteemed, and because I feel like Vandy is like a Wake Forest or Tulane. It feels very overrated, it feels like a southern NEU. Am I wrong? I feel like they can get into an Ivy, I think it would be a waste to go there over an Ivy.


It depends what you mean by “similar to an ivy”. If you mean 75% of undergraduates are in the 1500 and up group(pre-TO) , almost all stem kids took BC calc or multivariable calc in HS, large group of premed gunners, large group of finance bros, focus on liberal arts education even for stem majors, competitive clubs, good med/law/internship placements then yes it is very similar to ivy/T10. Vanderbilt is an excellent well respected school and has been for decades. Who knows why it is getting hate here.
Wake has a slightly less high-testing competitive student body but has the seminar/small classes, good placement and culture of working hard on classes—it is like William&Mary but more sporty. Definitely academic kids at both but not T10/ivy intensity because the majority are not former HS superstars/vals or sals all competing . Tulane is several notches down and is not going to provide anything close to wake or W&M level peer group, let alone Vanderbilt.


If you look at the WSJ analysis of graduates earning the highest salaries in 9 different fields, Vanderbilt only makes one of the nine lists, yet every Ivy league school makes the list for every single profession. Isn't that a more relevant comparison?

I would note, Wake, Tulane and NEU don't make any of the lists.

W&M actually does very well and makes 6 of the 9 lists.