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Anonymous wrote:DD who was a reasonably strong student but not gunning for top schools liked Washington and Jefferson. She went elsewhere but she liked the small size and they offered a lot of merit. I think you should check it out. DS who struggles academically but works incredibly hard is seriously considering Farliegh Dickinson. I don’t think anybody can really provide guidance without a sense of the courses your child has taken and his grades. DS takes a mix of honors and on level classes and will probably graduate with 4 APs if he sticks with his plan. He is very weak in math and science but stronger in English and history. He has a cumulative GPA of 3.6 uw and just above 4.0 w. He will be test optional. We discussed community college but he really wants a 4 year school so I’m supporting his wishes. I think a smaller school will offer him better support and hand holding but he wants big so FD seems a good compromise. Maybe have your son try a dual enrollment class at the community college to see how he does.

I think you are confusing this with Washington & Lee, which has an acceptance rate under 20% whereas Wasington and Jefferson accepts close to 90% of students that apply. Not a top school at all.

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Anonymous wrote:DD who was a reasonably strong student but not gunning for top schools liked Washington and Jefferson. She went elsewhere but she liked the small size and they offered a lot of merit. I think you should check it out. DS who struggles academically but works incredibly hard is seriously considering Farliegh Dickinson. I don’t think anybody can really provide guidance without a sense of the courses your child has taken and his grades. DS takes a mix of honors and on level classes and will probably graduate with 4 APs if he sticks with his plan. He is very weak in math and science but stronger in English and history. He has a cumulative GPA of 3.6 uw and just above 4.0 w. He will be test optional. We discussed community college but he really wants a 4 year school so I’m supporting his wishes. I think a smaller school will offer him better support and hand holding but he wants big so FD seems a good compromise. Maybe have your son try a dual enrollment class at the community college to see how he does.

Currently a sophomore with a 3.1. He takes a mix of honors and standard. He will not likely take any AP's, maybe 1 senior year. He has entered into an intensive tutoring program and has brought up his grades significantly this past semester. In terms of Math, he's taking geometry currently, I don't see him taking math beyond what's required to graduate. He's been working really hard lately, but the motivation is external, not intrinsic.

My husband and I both value a 4 year because of the experience, growth, maturity, independence, community, diversity etc. We just don't think he will walk away with any additional motivation from a CC and will be rather narrow minded. In the same breath, we don't want to set him up for failure at a 4 year or waste our money if the outcome is inconsequential.

Jeez, OP, I thought you were talking about a Sr. You are thinking about this too granularly at this point. Kids change a lot between 10th and 12th grade and some kids don't find their footing until later.

Disagree. I have a similar student (with a slightly higher GPA but grades vary widely). Sophomore year is almost over and they are rising juniors. It’s certainly not too early to start pondering college options and considering possible paths.

Personally, I think any kid with at least a 3.0 should consider a four-year college and only go the CC route if they have a particular barrier. There are definitely colleges out there for these kids!

Anonymous wrote:Ain't a got dam thing wrong with Marshall.

Anonymous wrote:He can still do engineering. Pre-Calc next year and Calculus senior year.

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Anonymous wrote:DD who was a reasonably strong student but not gunning for top schools liked Washington and Jefferson. She went elsewhere but she liked the small size and they offered a lot of merit. I think you should check it out. DS who struggles academically but works incredibly hard is seriously considering Farliegh Dickinson. I don’t think anybody can really provide guidance without a sense of the courses your child has taken and his grades. DS takes a mix of honors and on level classes and will probably graduate with 4 APs if he sticks with his plan. He is very weak in math and science but stronger in English and history. He has a cumulative GPA of 3.6 uw and just above 4.0 w. He will be test optional. We discussed community college but he really wants a 4 year school so I’m supporting his wishes. I think a smaller school will offer him better support and hand holding but he wants big so FD seems a good compromise. Maybe have your son try a dual enrollment class at the community college to see how he does.

Currently a sophomore with a 3.1. He takes a mix of honors and standard. He will not likely take any AP's, maybe 1 senior year. He has entered into an intensive tutoring program and has brought up his grades significantly this past semester. In terms of Math, he's taking geometry currently, I don't see him taking math beyond what's required to graduate. He's been working really hard lately, but the motivation is external, not intrinsic.

My husband and I both value a 4 year because of the experience, growth, maturity, independence, community, diversity etc. We just don't think he will walk away with any additional motivation from a CC and will be rather narrow minded. In the same breath, we don't want to set him up for failure at a 4 year or waste our money if the outcome is inconsequential.

Jeez, OP, I thought you were talking about a Sr. You are thinking about this too granularly at this point. Kids change a lot between 10th and 12th grade and some kids don't find their footing until later.

Anonymous wrote:I would try to get into one of the lesser known four year programs.

CC is a great option for a hard-working, but middling student. They will put it the time, get the grades and have transfer options. I've known a few kids like you describe your own. Middling students that are not particularly focused on education. I've seen 3 kids that I knew that went to CC, for a couple of years, then dropped out and got low-paying jobs and never got the degree. One went to work in a Target warehouse and got a better than minimum wage job, so he was doing okay, but he ended up a boomerang child and is now 30 and still living at home and working at Target. Another did some sort of medical technician vocational school and is working in a doctor's office.

I think if he can get into a 4 year program, then he should. He doesn't sound like the type that will drop out and will drive himself to go back to CC later and get that degree. Better a less recognized degree than no degree.

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Anonymous wrote:DD who was a reasonably strong student but not gunning for top schools liked Washington and Jefferson. She went elsewhere but she liked the small size and they offered a lot of merit. I think you should check it out. DS who struggles academically but works incredibly hard is seriously considering Farliegh Dickinson. I don’t think anybody can really provide guidance without a sense of the courses your child has taken and his grades. DS takes a mix of honors and on level classes and will probably graduate with 4 APs if he sticks with his plan. He is very weak in math and science but stronger in English and history. He has a cumulative GPA of 3.6 uw and just above 4.0 w. He will be test optional. We discussed community college but he really wants a 4 year school so I’m supporting his wishes. I think a smaller school will offer him better support and hand holding but he wants big so FD seems a good compromise. Maybe have your son try a dual enrollment class at the community college to see how he does.

Currently a sophomore with a 3.1. He takes a mix of honors and standard. He will not likely take any AP's, maybe 1 senior year. He has entered into an intensive tutoring program and has brought up his grades significantly this past semester. In terms of Math, he's taking geometry currently, I don't see him taking math beyond what's required to graduate. He's been working really hard lately, but the motivation is external, not intrinsic.

My husband and I both value a 4 year because of the experience, growth, maturity, independence, community, diversity etc. We just don't think he will walk away with any additional motivation from a CC and will be rather narrow minded. In the same breath, we don't want to set him up for failure at a 4 year or waste our money if the outcome is inconsequential.

Jeez, OP, I thought you were talking about a Sr. You are thinking about this too granularly at this point. Kids change a lot between 10th and 12th grade and some kids don't find their footing until later.

Anonymous wrote:DD who was a reasonably strong student but not gunning for top schools liked Washington and Jefferson. She went elsewhere but she liked the small size and they offered a lot of merit. I think you should check it out. DS who struggles academically but works incredibly hard is seriously considering Farliegh Dickinson. I don’t think anybody can really provide guidance without a sense of the courses your child has taken and his grades. DS takes a mix of honors and on level classes and will probably graduate with 4 APs if he sticks with his plan. He is very weak in math and science but stronger in English and history. He has a cumulative GPA of 3.6 uw and just above 4.0 w. He will be test optional. We discussed community college but he really wants a 4 year school so I’m supporting his wishes. I think a smaller school will offer him better support and hand holding but he wants big so FD seems a good compromise. Maybe have your son try a dual enrollment class at the community college to see how he does.