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Anonymous wrote:For what major? Or do you not actually care about academics and teaching quality?

Not decided yet but leaning engineering or CS.

Elite CS schools would be different than elite schools. Ivies for instance are typically below average at STEM.

This is such a silly repeated rumor from those who have not had kids go through ivy/T10 university in Stem/Engineering. Top Engineering grad programs, research jobs, leadership/tech development jobs all hire preferentially from T10s and ivies (especially those with dedicated engineering). They recruit on campus. Global tech companies recruit and faculty have connections everywhere. Undergrad research and publication is available to all undergrads not just the top students. One can get into these jobs or phDs from lesser state school programs, but it is more rare. Plus "STEM" is not just Engineering , it is Math, Chem, etc. Ivies are top at these.
You can look up the phD program matriculation and the Engineering school outcomes at ivies: 100k starting is average. If one wants to do Engineering as a path to med school, it is common and requires a lower GPA bar from ivies. Many top interventional radiologists and top medical researchers (MD/PhD) have an Engineering degree, and top research based med schools love the top undergrad programs The well-rounded education that comes with an ivy engineering or other STEM degree is world-class.

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard
Yale
Stanford
Columbia
Princeton
MIT
Penn
Chicago
Northwestern
Johns Hopkins
Cornell
Brown
Duke
Caltech
Williams
Amherst
Dartmouth

fin.

You forgot UVA.

Hilarious, thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:Ivy League + Chicago, MIT, Stanford, Northwestern, DUKE, Hopkins, Caltech.

+ Berkeley

For CS Berkley, MIT and Stanford would top the list. The other schools, not so much.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For what major? Or do you not actually care about academics and teaching quality?

Not decided yet but leaning engineering or CS.

Elite CS schools would be different than elite schools. Ivies for instance are typically below average at STEM.

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Anonymous wrote:Ivy League + Chicago, MIT, Stanford, Northwestern, DUKE, Hopkins, Caltech.

+ Berkeley

Is Berkeley an elite school for undergraduate study ?

Asking because many of the classes are huge & often required courses for one's major are filled.

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Anonymous wrote:Top 10 or Ivy schools

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The answer is not either /or but both: look at the top 10 universities the past 2-3 years in USNews, some are ivies some are not. Then look at the world rankings.
The colleges that are consistently top10 universities in US news AND are T20 in the world rankings are the US elite colleges. Not all the ivies make this list, as some US schools are better than the bottom 3 ivies.
There are other rankings, as US news has issues, though if one compares and cross references to the world T20 the result is the most elite group .

Using QS world ranking it makes a very short list, only 7, maybe 9:
MIT Stanford Harvard Penn Princeton CalTech Yale. Add UChicago and Columbia if counting unis that have been T10 in most years this decade despite not the most recent year.
Probably too limited of a list IMO, though it seems intuitively correct.

Top 25 Univ & Top 15 LACs. Period.

Anonymous wrote:Ivy League + Chicago, MIT, Stanford, Northwestern, DUKE, Hopkins, Caltech.

+ Berkeley

Anonymous wrote:Top 10 or Ivy schools

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The answer is not either /or but both: look at the top 10 universities the past 2-3 years in USNews, some are ivies some are not. Then look at the world rankings.
The colleges that are consistently top10 universities in US news AND are T20 in the world rankings are the US elite colleges. Not all the ivies make this list, as some US schools are better than the bottom 3 ivies.
There are other rankings, as US news has issues, though if one compares and cross references to the world T20 the result is the most elite group .

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Anonymous wrote:There are some obvious exceptions but most of the "best" schools don't have great engineering programs. Engineering was looked down upon by America's elite for many years. For great engineering programs, look to less prestigious schools.

Yeah like MIT, Stanford, and Princeton.

….and Berkeley, Michigan, and Cornell.

PP here Yes, those are the obvious exceptions. Maybe Carnegie Mellon as well.

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Anonymous wrote:There are some obvious exceptions but most of the "best" schools don't have great engineering programs. Engineering was looked down upon by America's elite for many years. For great engineering programs, look to less prestigious schools.

Yeah like MIT, Stanford, and Princeton.

….and Berkeley, Michigan, and Cornell.

Anonymous wrote:There are some obvious exceptions but most of the "best" schools don't have great engineering programs. Engineering was looked down upon by America's elite for many years. For great engineering programs, look to less prestigious schools.

Yeah like MIT, Stanford, and Princeton.

There are some obvious exceptions but most of the "best" schools don't have great engineering programs. Engineering was looked down upon by America's elite for many years. For great engineering programs, look to less prestigious schools.

^^PP here - do see now that CS was mentioned. But you forgot engineering! VT is #13. MD is #19.

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Anonymous wrote:For what major? Or do you not actually care about academics and teaching quality?

Not decided yet but leaning engineering or CS.

As a non-expert, I would think:
MIT
Cal Tech
Cornell
Rice
Carnegie Mellon
Harvey Mudd
state tech colleges (Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, Colorado School of Mines, etc.) and flagships

Here are some lists from the “experts”:
https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-science-schools/computer-science-rankings

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-engineering-schools/eng-rankings

VT is like 40th in the US for CS whereas schools like UMD are listed from 11th to 16th in various credible rankings.

Please use US News or CSRankings.org for more specialized ranking like ML or Systems.

Aww, the UMD booster is feeling left out. No one mentioned CS - why are you?