Anonymous
Post 04/18/2024 16:29     Subject: Re:Washington and Lee
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Normally, high Greek percentage is not associated with a crunchy outdoor vibe.

Anonymous wrote:The people that jump on here with outdated opinions they know nothing about. W&L actually has an excellent environmental science program. The largest geographic proportion is from the Mid-Atlantic (21%) vs. 19% southeast, 17% Virginia. Stop making things up or things you heard 10 years ago.
https://my.wlu.edu/environmental-studies-program
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whoever suggested App State, Warren Wilson, and/or UNC-Asheville doesn't have a clue about W&L.


OP states that DC wants an environmental related degree and to be out in nature quite a bit; That does not typically describe W&L. It's a good school, just not in that way.


Well, there is Dartmouth. W and L does have a ton of outdoorsy kids, sorry that is inconsistent with your preconceptions. Op, please visit and draw your own conclusions.


Maybe you don’t understand what crunchy means.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2024 16:23     Subject: Re:Washington and Lee
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Evergreen State


OP, the mention of Evergreen State wasn't a joke. The campus is in a forest and it one of the most unique learning environments out there.

https://www.evergreen.edu/


The OP's kid is interested in W&L and you're suggesting Evergreen State? That's like saying to an Oberlin hopeful, "Once you finish your campus visit, drive on up and check out Hillsdale."


No, the OP stated below in the original post:

"I haven't heard much about this one. I know it is Greek heavy, but would it be worth checking out for an outdoorsy non-preppy kid who loves the Shenandoah valley /appalachian landscape and wants to study environmental science, geoscience, etc at a SLAC/small university? We are not in VA, but W&L is closer for us than schools in the northeast"

Everything about Evergreen State is what OP's kid likes just not in Shenandoah Valley set in an immersive learning environment that gives a student the freedom to design their own coursework.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2024 16:13     Subject: Re:Washington and Lee
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Evergreen State


OP, the mention of Evergreen State wasn't a joke. The campus is in a forest and it one of the most unique learning environments out there.

https://www.evergreen.edu/


The OP's kid is interested in W&L and you're suggesting Evergreen State? That's like saying to an Oberlin hopeful, "Once you finish your campus visit, drive on up and check out Hillsdale."
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2024 15:48     Subject: Re:Washington and Lee
Anonymous wrote:Normally, high Greek percentage is not associated with a crunchy outdoor vibe.

Anonymous wrote:The people that jump on here with outdated opinions they know nothing about. W&L actually has an excellent environmental science program. The largest geographic proportion is from the Mid-Atlantic (21%) vs. 19% southeast, 17% Virginia. Stop making things up or things you heard 10 years ago.
https://my.wlu.edu/environmental-studies-program
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whoever suggested App State, Warren Wilson, and/or UNC-Asheville doesn't have a clue about W&L.


OP states that DC wants an environmental related degree and to be out in nature quite a bit; That does not typically describe W&L. It's a good school, just not in that way.


Well, there is Dartmouth. W and L does have a ton of outdoorsy kids, sorry that is inconsistent with your preconceptions. Op, please visit and draw your own conclusions.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2024 15:46     Subject: Re:Washington and Lee
Anonymous wrote:Evergreen State


OP, the mention of Evergreen State wasn't a joke. The campus is in a forest and it one of the most unique learning environments out there.

https://www.evergreen.edu/
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2024 15:40     Subject: Re:Washington and Lee
Normally, high Greek percentage is not associated with a crunchy outdoor vibe.

Anonymous wrote:The people that jump on here with outdated opinions they know nothing about. W&L actually has an excellent environmental science program. The largest geographic proportion is from the Mid-Atlantic (21%) vs. 19% southeast, 17% Virginia. Stop making things up or things you heard 10 years ago.
https://my.wlu.edu/environmental-studies-program
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whoever suggested App State, Warren Wilson, and/or UNC-Asheville doesn't have a clue about W&L.


OP states that DC wants an environmental related degree and to be out in nature quite a bit; That does not typically describe W&L. It's a good school, just not in that way.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2024 15:38     Subject: Re:Washington and Lee
The people that jump on here with outdated opinions they know nothing about. W&L actually has an excellent environmental science program. The largest geographic proportion is from the Mid-Atlantic (21%) vs. 19% southeast, 17% Virginia. Stop making things up or things you heard 10 years ago.
https://my.wlu.edu/environmental-studies-program
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whoever suggested App State, Warren Wilson, and/or UNC-Asheville doesn't have a clue about W&L.


OP states that DC wants an environmental related degree and to be out in nature quite a bit; That does not typically describe W&L. It's a good school, just not in that way.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2024 15:35     Subject: Re:Washington and Lee
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whoever suggested App State, Warren Wilson, and/or UNC-Asheville doesn't have a clue about W&L.

THIS! Swear people are just pulling names out of thing air.


No, these are all schools in a similar region with a decidedly environmental focus. Has nothing to do with scores or grades. W&L is fine if you want a selective private with a good frat scene; if you don't want a selective private, then lots of doors open up for environmental related degrees. Warren Wilson is known for that.


+1 The W&L boosters don't understand there is more to this than stats.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2024 15:33     Subject: Re:Washington and Lee
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whoever suggested App State, Warren Wilson, and/or UNC-Asheville doesn't have a clue about W&L.


OP states that DC wants an environmental related degree and to be out in nature quite a bit; That does not typically describe W&L. It's a good school, just not in that way.



That actually is what W&L is.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2024 15:31     Subject: Washington and Lee
Anonymous wrote:Visit campus and you'll quickly determine whether you would consider it a good fit.



This is good advice. My DD knew right away it was not on her short list. Way too much like her high school: preppy, southern, conservative, and social hierarchy heavy.

I know several kids who went and they were all amazing students but they all grew up in the southern country club set.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2024 15:25     Subject: Re:Washington and Lee
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whoever suggested App State, Warren Wilson, and/or UNC-Asheville doesn't have a clue about W&L.

THIS! Swear people are just pulling names out of thing air.


No, these are all schools in a similar region with a decidedly environmental focus. Has nothing to do with scores or grades. W&L is fine if you want a selective private with a good frat scene; if you don't want a selective private, then lots of doors open up for environmental related degrees. Warren Wilson is known for that.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2024 15:22     Subject: Re:Washington and Lee
Anonymous wrote:Whoever suggested App State, Warren Wilson, and/or UNC-Asheville doesn't have a clue about W&L.


OP states that DC wants an environmental related degree and to be out in nature quite a bit; That does not typically describe W&L. It's a good school, just not in that way.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2024 15:22     Subject: Washington and Lee
Visit campus and you'll quickly determine whether you would consider it a good fit.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2024 15:21     Subject: Re:Washington and Lee
Evergreen State
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2024 15:20     Subject: Re:Washington and Lee
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How about Roanoke College?


Maybe if OP's kid is applying to W&L as a pipe dream then this would work as a more realistic option. There are some cultural similarities between the two schools. But if he's a legitimate W&L hopeful, Roanoke would be at most an extreme safety and probably below his radar altogether.


What do you know about Roanoke? Cite your sources.


Well, they don't publish a common data set, which is a bit suspicious, but they have to submit one to USNWR for ranking purposes. Here are the numbers:

Middle 50% SAT: 1060-1260 (W&L: 1410-1530)
Middle 50% ACT: 19-26 (W&L: 32-35)
Six-year graduation rate: 70% (W&L: 95%)

These two schools just aren't in the same universe. But you knew this already.



Exactly.

There are levels to this.