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Anonymous wrote:Honestly your kid’s biggest problem will probably be that they’re coming from TJ. They need to knock their application questions out of the park.

This. No college will have unlimited opening for students from any HS. So a qualified student will always partly be competing against other students from the same HS for the N admissions slots that a particular college will allocate. Yes, TJ probably has an N greater than say Robinson, but TJ is filled to the brim with qualified students many of whom will have a bunch of quality ECs and other non-test/non-GPA differentiators.

Agreed with this. TJ kids all have really high SAT/ACT and high weighted GPA. To stand out in TJ, WGPA needs to be higher than 4.5 with SAT 1550+. GPA is far more important than SAT. My NMF kid has high SAT but 4.3<WGPA<4.4 was rejected by UVA and all top 20s, even with 2 publications in peer reviewed journals. Quite depressing.

Wow. What is UVA looking for, if not your kid?

UVA is looking for 4.4+ WGPA from TJ. Nothing less and cannot be compensated by any other awards/accomplishments.

I double down on my "Wow" lol

PP said DC got rejected by all top 20s. None of those schools would take him because his WGPA is 4.3 not 4.4???

All the Top 20s have multiple applicants from TJ and they’re not going to take more than a few of them.

PP you responded to-- good point!

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly your kid’s biggest problem will probably be that they’re coming from TJ. They need to knock their application questions out of the park.

This. No college will have unlimited opening for students from any HS. So a qualified student will always partly be competing against other students from the same HS for the N admissions slots that a particular college will allocate. Yes, TJ probably has an N greater than say Robinson, but TJ is filled to the brim with qualified students many of whom will have a bunch of quality ECs and other non-test/non-GPA differentiators.

Agreed with this. TJ kids all have really high SAT/ACT and high weighted GPA. To stand out in TJ, WGPA needs to be higher than 4.5 with SAT 1550+. GPA is far more important than SAT. My NMF kid has high SAT but 4.3<WGPA<4.4 was rejected by UVA and all top 20s, even with 2 publications in peer reviewed journals. Quite depressing.

Wow. What is UVA looking for, if not your kid?

UVA is looking for 4.4+ WGPA from TJ. Nothing less and cannot be compensated by any other awards/accomplishments.

I double down on my "Wow" lol

PP said DC got rejected by all top 20s. None of those schools would take him because his WGPA is 4.3 not 4.4???

All the Top 20s have multiple applicants from TJ and they’re not going to take more than a few of them.

You were always competing against the kids from your school. Remember that when your kid makes their list.

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Anonymous wrote:The advantage was there but not so much now at many competitive schools.

Most competitive schools would really like to see gender parity in cs and engineering. So girls do have an advantage since even today there are still far more boys interested in those two majors.

I find it somewhat depressing that 60% of college students are female, most of the majors are majority female and all everyone talks about is how terrible it is that more males go into CS and Engineering and how we should “fix” it.

No one stopped males from going to college. I don't know why more females going to college is depressing.

It is depressing as the dating pool is getting smaller and smaller for these females that are str8 or bi with intention of hetero marriage, in our suburbs as im sure in yours being an Ivy educated mom turned part time pilates instructor married to a guy making over 500K is still the ultimate success story-lets be for real.

so our daughters chances of this are smaller and smaller--they will most likely marry guys at or below their own salary potential, some even talk of women marrying migrant workers as that ratio is 90/10 men....as this is a stem post lets do talk about the math

Perhaps the upside is that the Ivy-educated guy of today is not interested in their similarly educated Ivy wife throwing away all of that to become a part-time pilates instructor.

I mean, is that what you aspire for your daughters?

NP. I don't think that women who choose a lower pressure job are "throwing away all of that". There's a lot of value to being able to be present for your child. The woman usually does this not because the man has to be the one to work because he's so brilliant-- but because parenting and managing a home is 1000x harder and most women are badass at it and men tend to be pretty bad at it. I think the pressure that SAHP face is different from the pressure you feel from work and in a way it's manageable-- taking care of kids/home is hard but at least it's worth it. If the parent managing the house can have less stress it's a good thing. And if the other parent can make a lot of money, it works out great. PP has a point.

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Anonymous wrote:The advantage was there but not so much now at many competitive schools.

Most competitive schools would really like to see gender parity in cs and engineering. So girls do have an advantage since even today there are still far more boys interested in those two majors.

I find it somewhat depressing that 60% of college students are female, most of the majors are majority female and all everyone talks about is how terrible it is that more males go into CS and Engineering and how we should “fix” it.

No one stopped males from going to college. I don't know why more females going to college is depressing.

It is depressing as the dating pool is getting smaller and smaller for these females that are str8 or bi with intention of hetero marriage, in our suburbs as im sure in yours being an Ivy educated mom turned part time pilates instructor married to a guy making over 500K is still the ultimate success story-lets be for real.

so our daughters chances of this are smaller and smaller--they will most likely marry guys at or below their own salary potential, some even talk of women marrying migrant workers as that ratio is 90/10 men....as this is a stem post lets do talk about the math

Perhaps the upside is that the Ivy-educated guy of today is not interested in their similarly educated Ivy wife throwing away all of that to become a part-time pilates instructor.

I mean, is that what you aspire for your daughters?

I aspire for them mental and physical well being. I don't want them having to prove themselves to people like you that the only way to happiness is having and being it all. AT a certain point we all have to choose our priorities, because if we make everything our priority-perfect husband, perfect career and perfect kids we will suffer.

How about you?

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly your kid’s biggest problem will probably be that they’re coming from TJ. They need to knock their application questions out of the park.

This. No college will have unlimited opening for students from any HS. So a qualified student will always partly be competing against other students from the same HS for the N admissions slots that a particular college will allocate. Yes, TJ probably has an N greater than say Robinson, but TJ is filled to the brim with qualified students many of whom will have a bunch of quality ECs and other non-test/non-GPA differentiators.

Agreed with this. TJ kids all have really high SAT/ACT and high weighted GPA. To stand out in TJ, WGPA needs to be higher than 4.5 with SAT 1550+. GPA is far more important than SAT. My NMF kid has high SAT but 4.3<WGPA<4.4 was rejected by UVA and all top 20s, even with 2 publications in peer reviewed journals. Quite depressing.

Wow. What is UVA looking for, if not your kid?

UVA is looking for 4.4+ WGPA from TJ. Nothing less and cannot be compensated by any other awards/accomplishments.

I double down on my "Wow" lol

PP said DC got rejected by all top 20s. None of those schools would take him because his WGPA is 4.3 not 4.4???

All the Top 20s have multiple applicants from TJ and they’re not going to take more than a few of them.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly your kid’s biggest problem will probably be that they’re coming from TJ. They need to knock their application questions out of the park.

This. No college will have unlimited opening for students from any HS. So a qualified student will always partly be competing against other students from the same HS for the N admissions slots that a particular college will allocate. Yes, TJ probably has an N greater than say Robinson, but TJ is filled to the brim with qualified students many of whom will have a bunch of quality ECs and other non-test/non-GPA differentiators.

Agreed with this. TJ kids all have really high SAT/ACT and high weighted GPA. To stand out in TJ, WGPA needs to be higher than 4.5 with SAT 1550+. GPA is far more important than SAT. My NMF kid has high SAT but 4.3<WGPA<4.4 was rejected by UVA and all top 20s, even with 2 publications in peer reviewed journals. Quite depressing.

Wow. What is UVA looking for, if not your kid?

UVA is looking for 4.4+ WGPA from TJ. Nothing less and cannot be compensated by any other awards/accomplishments.

I double down on my "Wow" lol

PP said DC got rejected by all top 20s. None of those schools would take him because his WGPA is 4.3 not 4.4???

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Anonymous wrote:The advantage was there but not so much now at many competitive schools.

Most competitive schools would really like to see gender parity in cs and engineering. So girls do have an advantage since even today there are still far more boys interested in those two majors.

I find it somewhat depressing that 60% of college students are female, most of the majors are majority female and all everyone talks about is how terrible it is that more males go into CS and Engineering and how we should “fix” it.

No one stopped males from going to college. I don't know why more females going to college is depressing.

It is depressing as the dating pool is getting smaller and smaller for these females that are str8 or bi with intention of hetero marriage, in our suburbs as im sure in yours being an Ivy educated mom turned part time pilates instructor married to a guy making over 500K is still the ultimate success story-lets be for real.

so our daughters chances of this are smaller and smaller--they will most likely marry guys at or below their own salary potential, some even talk of women marrying migrant workers as that ratio is 90/10 men....as this is a stem post lets do talk about the math

Perhaps the upside is that the Ivy-educated guy of today is not interested in their similarly educated Ivy wife throwing away all of that to become a part-time pilates instructor.

I mean, is that what you aspire for your daughters?

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly your kid’s biggest problem will probably be that they’re coming from TJ. They need to knock their application questions out of the park.

This. No college will have unlimited opening for students from any HS. So a qualified student will always partly be competing against other students from the same HS for the N admissions slots that a particular college will allocate. Yes, TJ probably has an N greater than say Robinson, but TJ is filled to the brim with qualified students many of whom will have a bunch of quality ECs and other non-test/non-GPA differentiators.

Agreed with this. TJ kids all have really high SAT/ACT and high weighted GPA. To stand out in TJ, WGPA needs to be higher than 4.5 with SAT 1550+. GPA is far more important than SAT. My NMF kid has high SAT but 4.3<WGPA<4.4 was rejected by UVA and all top 20s, even with 2 publications in peer reviewed journals. Quite depressing.

Wow. What is UVA looking for, if not your kid?

UVA is looking for 4.4+ WGPA from TJ. Nothing less and cannot be compensated by any other awards/accomplishments.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly your kid’s biggest problem will probably be that they’re coming from TJ. They need to knock their application questions out of the park.

This. No college will have unlimited opening for students from any HS. So a qualified student will always partly be competing against other students from the same HS for the N admissions slots that a particular college will allocate. Yes, TJ probably has an N greater than say Robinson, but TJ is filled to the brim with qualified students many of whom will have a bunch of quality ECs and other non-test/non-GPA differentiators.

Agreed with this. TJ kids all have really high SAT/ACT and high weighted GPA. To stand out in TJ, WGPA needs to be higher than 4.5 with SAT 1550+. GPA is far more important than SAT. My NMF kid has high SAT but 4.3<WGPA<4.4 was rejected by UVA and all top 20s, even with 2 publications in peer reviewed journals. Quite depressing.

Wow. What is UVA looking for, if not your kid?

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Anonymous wrote:The advantage was there but not so much now at many competitive schools.

Most competitive schools would really like to see gender parity in cs and engineering. So girls do have an advantage since even today there are still far more boys interested in those two majors.

I find it somewhat depressing that 60% of college students are female, most of the majors are majority female and all everyone talks about is how terrible it is that more males go into CS and Engineering and how we should “fix” it.

No one stopped males from going to college. I don't know why more females going to college is depressing.

It is depressing as the dating pool is getting smaller and smaller for these females that are str8 or bi with intention of hetero marriage, in our suburbs as im sure in yours being an Ivy educated mom turned part time pilates instructor married to a guy making over 500K is still the ultimate success story-lets be for real.

so our daughters chances of this are smaller and smaller--they will most likely marry guys at or below their own salary potential, some even talk of women marrying migrant workers as that ratio is 90/10 men....as this is a stem post lets do talk about the math

You know it has taken centuries for women to be where they are right now with respect to education. In my opinion, the solution to what you are describing above is for the boys/men to scale up. It was easier for men to get into colleges when women were oppressed. Now, they should start working harder and get their act together. It's not the other way around.

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Anonymous wrote:Girl or boy? Girls with high stats will likely do better with CS applications than boys.

This is not true!

Totally true. Many CS programs preferentially admit women. It’s still hard to get in. Look at CDS numbers for the tech schools.

How does CDS numbers indicate preferential treatment to women unless you strongly believe girls are NOT better than boys and so you conclude the higher numbers in females is because of the preferential treatment.
Whether you believe it or not, there is an equivalent percentage of girls as boys that do amazing things in CS (or STEM for that matter).

I hope you say the same ting when people make the same argument about boys being admitted to SLACs.

Yes, I do!

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Anonymous wrote:The advantage was there but not so much now at many competitive schools.

Most competitive schools would really like to see gender parity in cs and engineering. So girls do have an advantage since even today there are still far more boys interested in those two majors.

I have 2 girls. This is not true from my experience in top schools. Actually, being a girl is a disadvantage in Ivy admissions.

Maybe for other majors but not CS.

White girls in STEM with great stats definitely get more points in MIT and Stanford.

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Anonymous wrote:Girl or boy? Girls with high stats will likely do better with CS applications than boys.

This is not true!

Totally true. Many CS programs preferentially admit women. It’s still hard to get in. Look at CDS numbers for the tech schools.

How does CDS numbers indicate preferential treatment to women unless you strongly believe girls are NOT better than boys and so you conclude the higher numbers in females is because of the preferential treatment.
Whether you believe it or not, there is an equivalent percentage of girls as boys that do amazing things in CS (or STEM for that matter).

I hope you say the same ting when people make the same argument about boys being admitted to SLACs.

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Anonymous wrote:Girl or boy? Girls with high stats will likely do better with CS applications than boys.

This is not true!

Totally true. Many CS programs preferentially admit women. It’s still hard to get in. Look at CDS numbers for the tech schools.

How does CDS numbers indicate preferential treatment to women unless you strongly believe girls are NOT better than boys and so you conclude the higher numbers in females is because of the preferential treatment.
Whether you believe it or not, there is an equivalent percentage of girls as boys that do amazing things in CS (or STEM for that matter).

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Anonymous wrote:The advantage was there but not so much now at many competitive schools.

Most competitive schools would really like to see gender parity in cs and engineering. So girls do have an advantage since even today there are still far more boys interested in those two majors.

I find it somewhat depressing that 60% of college students are female, most of the majors are majority female and all everyone talks about is how terrible it is that more males go into CS and Engineering and how we should “fix” it.

No one stopped males from going to college. I don't know why more females going to college is depressing.

It is depressing as the dating pool is getting smaller and smaller for these females that are str8 or bi with intention of hetero marriage, in our suburbs as im sure in yours being an Ivy educated mom turned part time pilates instructor married to a guy making over 500K is still the ultimate success story-lets be for real.

so our daughters chances of this are smaller and smaller--they will most likely marry guys at or below their own salary potential, some even talk of women marrying migrant workers as that ratio is 90/10 men....as this is a stem post lets do talk about the math