Anonymous
Post 04/11/2024 13:13     Subject: Harvard will require Test Scores starting next year
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:yep.
Whatever will the 4/4.6 1390 poor test-taking children of DCUM do?


Remember when a 4.0 and 1400 was an exceptional kid?


4.0 and 1400 has not been truly exceptional since the 1990s
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2024 13:11     Subject: Harvard will require Test Scores starting next year
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you get to take Plagiarism 101 with Claudine Gay once you're accepted?



Harvard is so mockable these days


Claudine Gay is but not Harvard.


Ms. Gay was made a scapegoat. She's still employed at Harvard and still making good money (without the stress).

And your kid will still get rejected.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2024 13:10     Subject: Harvard will require Test Scores starting next year
Anonymous wrote:I still think they should require parents SAT scores.


What the Ivys really want to know is parental net worth. Thankfully, credit bureaus can provide good estimates of this.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2024 13:08     Subject: Harvard will require Test Scores starting next year
Anonymous wrote:Indeed.

Some posters on here were very confident that Yale and Brown and Dartmouth resuming testing requirements were the exceptions.

Pretty clear by now that test optional admits had not very good outcomes.


I believe Brown is still test optional.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2024 13:05     Subject: Harvard will require Test Scores starting next year
Anonymous wrote:Do you get to take Plagiarism 101 with Claudine Gay once you're accepted?


Close. Bill Ackman's wife is teaching it this semester.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2024 13:05     Subject: Harvard will require Test Scores starting next year
10 years from now, nobody will care about Claudine Gay. Hell, people still uphold Ivy credentials from the days when it was all feeder kids, legacy, or donors.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2024 13:04     Subject: Harvard will require Test Scores starting next year
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I mean, obviously. The test optional thing was a weird experiment and there is no evidence that it accomplished anything useful, and some evidence it was genuinely detrimental. Good riddance.

Being good at taking tests is not the most important thing in life and everyone should remind themselves of that. But it turns out that people who do test well, and are able to get very high scores on college preparedness tests, tend to also do best in college, where they will also be expected to regularly take tests. It's okay that not everyone goes to an Ivy, or becomes a lawyer or doctor or academic or MBA or whatever. It's not the only option in life.


Just realize that Harvard isn't going to accept your kids with a 1580 over one with a 1500 based on the SAT alone. They will consider them "the same"/made the cut, and then look at everything else. I don't think requiring tests will have the effect most "high stats" parents want.
Fact is T20 schools only want to see your kid meet a baseline for the testing, then they still want to look at everything else. A 1600 doesn't differentiate your kid from a 1520 kid really.
These schools will still be highly rejective.


Here we go with the backstop position, now that TO is being blown sky high.

In fact, there’s meaningful differentiation between a kid with a 1600 / 36 and another kid with a 1520 / 34. Especially when multiple re-takes and super scoring are involved in the latter.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2024 13:00     Subject: Harvard will require Test Scores starting next year
Anonymous wrote:Do you get to take Plagiarism 101 with Claudine Gay once you're accepted?


No, only Code of the Road with Adjunct Prof. Ackman is offered. Neri Oxman lectures on academic integrity offered on demand.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2024 12:50     Subject: Harvard will require Test Scores starting next year
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I still think they should require parents SAT scores.


I mean, now you're being weird. I support requiring test scores, but this is psychotic.


The poster was not being serious
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2024 12:40     Subject: Harvard will require Test Scores starting next year
Anonymous wrote:Funny how selective memories are. TO became a big thing following the whole DEI /equity / institutional racism furore after George Floyd. It was never about COVID.


Those two events happened at the same time (Covid and George Floyd). Many testing sites closed down, and kids literally could not take the exam. Simultaneously, “equity” was gaining rapid steam in education circles pushed on by activists…little did they realize the people most taking advantage of TO were privileged athletes, legacy and wealthy students!!!
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2024 12:37     Subject: Harvard will require Test Scores starting next year
Anonymous wrote:Do you get to take Plagiarism 101 with Claudine Gay once you're accepted?


Yes, Claudine and Melania can co-teach
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2024 12:35     Subject: Harvard will require Test Scores starting next year
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:test optional was a failed experiment


it wasn't an experiment it was due to testing centers closing during the pandemic


Pretty sure they have not been closed the past two years…
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2024 12:28     Subject: Harvard will require Test Scores starting next year
Funny how selective memories are. TO became a big thing following the whole DEI /equity / institutional racism furore after George Floyd. It was never about COVID.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2024 12:24     Subject: Harvard will require Test Scores starting next year
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you get to take Plagiarism 101 with Claudine Gay once you're accepted?



Harvard is so mockable these days


Claudine Gay is but not Harvard.
Anonymous
Post 04/11/2024 12:22     Subject: Harvard will require Test Scores starting next year
Anonymous wrote:Do you get to take Plagiarism 101 with Claudine Gay once you're accepted?



Harvard is so mockable these days