Anonymous wrote:This is terrible for the environment. Flying so much every week. How entitled you must be!

Not PP but FU.

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Anonymous wrote:You can’t afford to live in socal on those salaries, especially with kids. Move to Fresno and commute.

Op here. What if I find a job in SoCal? Is a combined HHI of 480k enough do you think? With 2 kids?

of course! especially if your kids take advantage of the UC system

Op here….i am dumb and my kids are very little. Are you being sarcastic or how does this work?

Clearly I have a lot to learn!!

The UC system is very good and much less expensive than a lot of other colleges.

California is great. You only have to pay for 12 years of private school but have a great discount on good colleges.

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DCUM takes on life in California are always so looney-tunes.

I’m from California. All my relatives pay for private.

There are lots of great public school districts in California…

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Anonymous wrote:You can’t afford to live in socal on those salaries, especially with kids. Move to Fresno and commute.

Op here. What if I find a job in SoCal? Is a combined HHI of 480k enough do you think? With 2 kids?

of course! especially if your kids take advantage of the UC system

Op here….i am dumb and my kids are very little. Are you being sarcastic or how does this work?

Clearly I have a lot to learn!!

OP, why are you moving to CA when you seem to know nothing about it? I'm genuinely asking.

Op here. My kids are young so college strategizing is not on my radar yet.

I have traveled to California dozens of times and even lived in Northern California for several years. I have spent less time in Southern California. I’ve visited several times but that’s not the same as living there, especially now that i have kids. My question was more trying to think through the logistics of our two job options rather than exploring a bunch of data related to SoCal.

The reasons we want to move there are primarily that our careers feel very stalled at the moment, and it seems we are going to have to move if we want to change that. The places where we have had opportunities lately have been DMV (we moved away 5 years ago), Texas, California, and North Dakota. California is the most attractive to us from that list.

Your careers are going to stall even further if you set up your lives in a way that requires weekly flights for one parent. You need to be close to your office so you can go in person as needed even on your WFH days. And the long distance commuting would compromise the in-town parent’s ability to focus on work. California is a huge state and that commute with small kids and two working parents is a frankly dumb idea.

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Anonymous wrote:You can’t afford to live in socal on those salaries, especially with kids. Move to Fresno and commute.

Op here. What if I find a job in SoCal? Is a combined HHI of 480k enough do you think? With 2 kids?

of course! especially if your kids take advantage of the UC system

Op here….i am dumb and my kids are very little. Are you being sarcastic or how does this work?

Clearly I have a lot to learn!!

The UC system is very good and much less expensive than a lot of other colleges.

California is great. You only have to pay for 12 years of private school but have a great discount on good colleges.

🙄🙄

DCUM takes on life in California are always so looney-tunes.

I’m from California. All my relatives pay for private.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s wrong with Northern California?

Op here. We lived there before and it’s just not our cup of tea. The weather is too cool, the people are so smug and career obsessed, and the beaches suck.

I get it. We went to college in San Diego and moved to Northern California for grad school. Agree with your asssessment. DH got a job in LA and I commuted for a while from the Bay Area to LA. That got old fast. I suggest you make LA your home base and you commute until you find an LA job. I recommend Playa Vista, which is a great planned community near the beach and LAX.

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Anonymous wrote:You can’t afford to live in socal on those salaries, especially with kids. Move to Fresno and commute.

Op here. What if I find a job in SoCal? Is a combined HHI of 480k enough do you think? With 2 kids?

of course! especially if your kids take advantage of the UC system

Op here….i am dumb and my kids are very little. Are you being sarcastic or how does this work?

Clearly I have a lot to learn!!

I said “of course” to your question about whether your joint income was enough to live in southern CA. I added the part about the UCs as a joke, but I meant that your income will stretch even farther b/c won’t need to save nearly as much for college with the fantastic UC college system available to your kids. The comment was supportive of you

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Anonymous wrote:You can’t afford to live in socal on those salaries, especially with kids. Move to Fresno and commute.

Op here. What if I find a job in SoCal? Is a combined HHI of 480k enough do you think? With 2 kids?

of course! especially if your kids take advantage of the UC system

Op here….i am dumb and my kids are very little. Are you being sarcastic or how does this work?

Clearly I have a lot to learn!!

The UC system is very good and much less expensive than a lot of other colleges.

California is great. You only have to pay for 12 years of private school but have a great discount on good colleges.

🙄🙄

DCUM takes on life in California are always so looney-tunes.

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Anonymous wrote:You can’t afford to live in socal on those salaries, especially with kids. Move to Fresno and commute.

Op here. What if I find a job in SoCal? Is a combined HHI of 480k enough do you think? With 2 kids?

of course! especially if your kids take advantage of the UC system

Op here….i am dumb and my kids are very little. Are you being sarcastic or how does this work?

Clearly I have a lot to learn!!

OP, why are you moving to CA when you seem to know nothing about it? I'm genuinely asking.

Op here. My kids are young so college strategizing is not on my radar yet.

I have traveled to California dozens of times and even lived in Northern California for several years. I have spent less time in Southern California. I’ve visited several times but that’s not the same as living there, especially now that i have kids. My question was more trying to think through the logistics of our two job options rather than exploring a bunch of data related to SoCal.

The reasons we want to move there are primarily that our careers feel very stalled at the moment, and it seems we are going to have to move if we want to change that. The places where we have had opportunities lately have been DMV (we moved away 5 years ago), Texas, California, and North Dakota. California is the most attractive to us from that list.

Thanks for answering. I won't try to convince you not to move to CA: I'm from there and there's a lot to love. But it is a difficult and expensive place to live, with a lot of people competing for the same resources. The same terrain that makes it beautiful really limits the commuting situation and the places you'd want to live. I moved to the DMV which I consider more reasonable for working families, with more options on where to work and live.

So because it's difficult and expensive to live in CA, you need to simplify your daily logistics as much as possible and not create a tenuous situation in which one bad travel day or regional issue (eg local weather) can upend things at home or jeopardize the spouse's job. Even if you wanted a full time nanny, the salaries you describe probably aren't enough to do that comfortably plus the travel.

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Anonymous wrote:You can’t afford to live in socal on those salaries, especially with kids. Move to Fresno and commute.

Op here. What if I find a job in SoCal? Is a combined HHI of 480k enough do you think? With 2 kids?

of course! especially if your kids take advantage of the UC system

Op here….i am dumb and my kids are very little. Are you being sarcastic or how does this work?

Clearly I have a lot to learn!!

OP, why are you moving to CA when you seem to know nothing about it? I'm genuinely asking.

Op here. My kids are young so college strategizing is not on my radar yet.

I have traveled to California dozens of times and even lived in Northern California for several years. I have spent less time in Southern California. I’ve visited several times but that’s not the same as living there, especially now that i have kids. My question was more trying to think through the logistics of our two job options rather than exploring a bunch of data related to SoCal.

The reasons we want to move there are primarily that our careers feel very stalled at the moment, and it seems we are going to have to move if we want to change that. The places where we have had opportunities lately have been DMV (we moved away 5 years ago), Texas, California, and North Dakota. California is the most attractive to us from that list.

You don’t make enough to make California comfortable. Your idea of living essentially in different states (like Georgia to Virginia) is ridiculous. Figure out where one of you can get a good job, and then the other must follow. That’s how everyone does it. With kids your idea of both parents being far away is untenable. Kids require more adult involvement by the time they are upper middle school. Daycare is the easy time.

It’s fine to target San Diego, but you need to level up your salaries. Have you looked at Sacramento?

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Anonymous wrote:You can’t afford to live in socal on those salaries, especially with kids. Move to Fresno and commute.

Op here. What if I find a job in SoCal? Is a combined HHI of 480k enough do you think? With 2 kids?

of course! especially if your kids take advantage of the UC system

Op here….i am dumb and my kids are very little. Are you being sarcastic or how does this work?

Clearly I have a lot to learn!!

OP, why are you moving to CA when you seem to know nothing about it? I'm genuinely asking.

Op here. My kids are young so college strategizing is not on my radar yet.

I have traveled to California dozens of times and even lived in Northern California for several years. I have spent less time in Southern California. I’ve visited several times but that’s not the same as living there, especially now that i have kids. My question was more trying to think through the logistics of our two job options rather than exploring a bunch of data related to SoCal.

The reasons we want to move there are primarily that our careers feel very stalled at the moment, and it seems we are going to have to move if we want to change that. The places where we have had opportunities lately have been DMV (we moved away 5 years ago), Texas, California, and North Dakota. California is the most attractive to us from that list.

Check out San Clemente in OC.

Husband can take Metrolink (commuter rail) directly from SC to LA. You can fly out of SNA (John Wayne). Easy airport to get in and out of. Lots of flights to SJ. San Diego and LAX are much busier and much more crowded.

If you like Carlsbad, you will like SC. It is nicer in all ways.

Long Beach is bigger, dirtier though Naples/3rd St is nice. Long Beach Airport is easy to use too. But if you want beach/weather like Carlsbad, try SC.

Houses are going to be very expensive in any of these areas.

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Anonymous wrote:You can’t afford to live in socal on those salaries, especially with kids. Move to Fresno and commute.

Op here. What if I find a job in SoCal? Is a combined HHI of 480k enough do you think? With 2 kids?

of course! especially if your kids take advantage of the UC system

Op here….i am dumb and my kids are very little. Are you being sarcastic or how does this work?

Clearly I have a lot to learn!!

OP, why are you moving to CA when you seem to know nothing about it? I'm genuinely asking.

Anonymous wrote:This is not a good idea.

If you want to live in San Diego, you guys need to find jobs that are either in San Diego or remote.

This plan is absurd.

At least one parent should work near where you live and where your kids' daycare and schools are. The other parent would be then free to fly around, stay in discount hotels to their heart's content. Otherwise, this plan will quickly fall apart.

This is not a good idea.

If you want to live in San Diego, you guys need to find jobs that are either in San Diego or remote.

This plan is absurd.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you and your DH do?

Op here. Engineering/infrastructure/energy related fields.

So not software so you unlikely to get to big California numbers.