Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 17:16     Subject: Which first lady is professionally most accomplished
Anonymous wrote:First Lady/First Gentleman, specially with young kids, need to be the anchoring rock for the White House, that's the role the choose. Presidents are people and need that to dedicate decades of their lives to get the job and then perform it well.


The first gentleman won't be married to a woman. I don't see our country ever electing a woman as president.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 17:06     Subject: Which first lady is professionally most accomplished
First Lady/First Gentleman, specially with young kids, need to be the anchoring rock for the White House, that's the role the choose. Presidents are people and need that to dedicate decades of their lives to get the job and then perform it well.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 17:01     Subject: Which first lady is professionally most accomplished
In her own way, MO was a very successful First Lady. She supported her spouse and held the home fort like many spouses of ambitious and successful men (and now women as well). She did what her nation and her family needed to make things work.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 16:55     Subject: Which first lady is professionally most accomplished
Anonymous wrote:1. Hilary Clinton
2. Eleanor Roosevelt
3. Jill Biden


Why JB?
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 16:51     Subject: Re:Which first lady is professionally most accomplished
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Anonymous wrote:But would Hilary Clinton been as successful had her husband not been president first? No way.


Honestly, she might have been elected president had she not had Bill’s baggage.


But she never would have been nominated for president (or secretary of state, or senator) had she not gained worldwide fame for being Bill's wife.


Having Bill is like having a double edged sword but it mostly helped her career.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 16:50     Subject: Re:Which first lady is professionally most accomplished
Anonymous wrote:I think it's quite an accomplishment that Jill Biden has continued to teach throughout the Obama and Biden administrations.


She didn't have a young family to focus on while her husband lead the nation.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 16:48     Subject: Which first lady is professionally most accomplished
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Anonymous wrote:Hillary Clinton?


I mean, yes, but her accomplishments are mostly linked to her celebrity from having been first lady.


Definitely true, but DCUM posters are damp over Yale Law School + the marrying well + her constant self promotion.

Jackie O was definitely the most accomplished. Well bred, nothing to prove, married well twice, impeccable taste in clothing and interior design, attentive mother, supportive wife.


Absolutely not. Jackie O married well. Did not accomplish anything.


As first lady, which was her profession at the time, she was sublime. Was she a shrill and tedious self-promoter before and after? No.


It is not a profession. Getting a role because of you husband is not a profession.


Helping your spouse get to the White House sure is a bigger accomplishment than teaching political science in community college.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 16:45     Subject: Which first lady is professionally most accomplished
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hillary Clinton?


I mean, yes, but her accomplishments are mostly linked to her celebrity from having been first lady.


That helped.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 16:43     Subject: Which first lady is professionally most accomplished
Anonymous wrote:Until 1975 women could not get a credit card in their name unless their father or husband co-signed.


Wow!!! American women have come a long way in the last 50 years. Seriously, who are we to judge Saudi Arabia? And we never had a women president, even India, Pakistan and Bangladesh did.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 16:40     Subject: Which first lady is professionally most accomplished
Anonymous wrote:Until 1975 women could not get a credit card in their name unless their father or husband co-signed.


True. There are a lot of factors making it an unfair competition. Also for a First Lady/First Gentleman , standing by and supporting leader of the nation is the real job, it doesn't matter to nation if their law firm or tech start up is doing great or not.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 16:19     Subject: Re:Which first lady is professionally most accomplished
Edith Wilsin becauae she was President while Woodrow had his stroke
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 15:34     Subject: Re:Which first lady is professionally most accomplished
I love that Eleanor Roosevelt was once the mystery guest on "What's My Line?"!

For those not familiar, this was a very popular game show in the 1950s that had a segment where a celebrity, usually a popular actor or singer, would come on and a blindfolded panel had to guess their identity. They would sign their name on a chalkboard when they walked on stage. So one night in 1953, out walked Eleanor Roosevelt:

https://youtu.be/0Ew82Ae_N9g?si=MB4A-KDUxpRD0Iqa&t=865
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 15:32     Subject: Re:Which first lady is professionally most accomplished
Anonymous wrote:I have to throw Eleanor Roosevelt into this ring. She didn't have a lot of degrees (they were super uncommon for women in 1900) but she was VERY accomplished:

She was a delegate to the UN, was heavily involved in civil rights issues (especially for African Americans), worked in social services at the Settlement House, and during WWII worked with the Red Cross and volunteered at Navy hospitals. Once FDR was stricken with polio, she got even more involved with social and political issues. She was the first first lady to hold her own press conference (and only allowed female reporters to attend!) She served in the UN's General Assembly, was chair of the Human Rights Commission, and so much more. She is really remembered and respected in the field of social work.

Eleanor Roosevelt, Dolly Madison and the others mentioned here were definitely accomplished women. But if we are going to discount Hillary's accomplishments by saying she wouldn't have gotten them if her husband weren't president, couldn't the same be said of Eleanor Roosevelt and the others?

Would Eleanor have been a delegate to the UN if not for FDR? Would she have gotten such a big microphone via her newspaper column if not for FDR? Would she have given a press conference if not for FDR? It goes on and on and on.

If Hillary is to get dinged because she wouldn't have had her accomplishments without her husband, then all the other first ladies need to as well.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 15:08     Subject: Which first lady is professionally most accomplished
Sally Hemings on the DL.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2024 15:05     Subject: Which first lady is professionally most accomplished
Anonymous wrote:Melania


Serious answers only, sweetie.