Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where can you check an upcoming flight to see if you are on a Boeing Max? Thanks!
It usually tells you in the trip details when you book the flight, or on the airline website. However they can change aircraft type without telling you.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I guess I do because I travel a lot and don't really have a choice on planes. Honestly I don't even look at what model of plane I am on.
This. I can see how one can try to avoid flying on the Max, but it’s hard to avoid all Boeing.
I commute weekly and haven't flown anything but an A321 in two years. It absolutely depends on the airline and route.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I consciously do not fly United or the Max anymore, but other than that, no issues for me.
Cool, so you never ride in a car either, right? Also never swim?
I worked in safety at the NTSB after a short stint as an airline pilot, but keep acting like you know everything.
How are you mitigating the 1000x higher risk of death from participating in those activities, versus flying on a Boeing airplane?
You're kidding, right? I need to drive. I don't need to fly on a specific aircraft or specific airline.
Not really- I sometimes go weeks without getting in a car. We all make choices and implicit risk calculations. You have accepted the relatively large underlying risk of car accidents as part of your life, likely because of where you live- which is totally understandable in America. But you are trying to reduce a much much smaller level of risk by controlling for type of airplane or manufacturer or airline. Of course you probably don't "have to" ever get on an airplane, but you choose to because it's faster and easier.
We all take these trade-offs all the time- usually it's more risk for less money. I have sometimes driven to New York instead of taking the train, because it was much cheaper for last minute trip. I knew my personal safety risk was much higher for driving, and accepted that, for better or worse, because of the lower cost.
I just think it's funny to be parsing out risk for things with billion to one odds, when you have much higher risk activities you undertake on an almost daily basis, that you could radically reduce your risk much more by cutting back/down.
I have a masters degree in risk management, thanks. But I also spent 10 years looking at the (sorry for the TMI, but literally bloody) results of flights gone wrong. I lower my driving risk by not driving drunk or fatigued, and I lower my aviation risk by not flying certain aircraft. I don't fly v-tail Bonanzas as a pilot because of their poor climb-out characteristics, either - are you going to criticize me for that?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I guess I do because I travel a lot and don't really have a choice on planes. Honestly I don't even look at what model of plane I am on.
This. I can see how one can try to avoid flying on the Max, but it’s hard to avoid all Boeing.
Anonymous wrote:I guess I do because I travel a lot and don't really have a choice on planes. Honestly I don't even look at what model of plane I am on.
Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure that it's possible to avoid flying Boeing airplanes. For those that think Airbus is going to save you, you should be aware that Boeing and Airbus have a lot of the same subcontractors and suppliers. Maybe Airbus is doing better quality control of its subcontractors and suppliers, but an Airbus plane isn't designed all that differently from a Boeing plane. Moreover, Airbus doesn't even have the capacity to build all the planes that airlines are requesting. The bigger underlying problem is that we have allowed mergers and consolidation to the point where there are no meaningful alternatives.
This is a long winded way of saying that more aggressive antitrust enforcement is warranted so that we don't end up in this situation where there is no real choice.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I consciously do not fly United or the Max anymore, but other than that, no issues for me.
Cool, so you never ride in a car either, right? Also never swim?
I worked in safety at the NTSB after a short stint as an airline pilot, but keep acting like you know everything.
How are you mitigating the 1000x higher risk of death from participating in those activities, versus flying on a Boeing airplane?
You're kidding, right? I need to drive. I don't need to fly on a specific aircraft or specific airline.
Not really- I sometimes go weeks without getting in a car. We all make choices and implicit risk calculations. You have accepted the relatively large underlying risk of car accidents as part of your life, likely because of where you live- which is totally understandable in America. But you are trying to reduce a much much smaller level of risk by controlling for type of airplane or manufacturer or airline. Of course you probably don't "have to" ever get on an airplane, but you choose to because it's faster and easier.
We all take these trade-offs all the time- usually it's more risk for less money. I have sometimes driven to New York instead of taking the train, because it was much cheaper for last minute trip. I knew my personal safety risk was much higher for driving, and accepted that, for better or worse, because of the lower cost.
I just think it's funny to be parsing out risk for things with billion to one odds, when you have much higher risk activities you undertake on an almost daily basis, that you could radically reduce your risk much more by cutting back/down.
Anonymous wrote:Where can you check an upcoming flight to see if you are on a Boeing Max? Thanks!