Anonymous wrote:Just tell it like it is: you don't want your kid to nap so when you pick them up after 10 hours of childcare, all you have to do is throw them some food, *maybe* give them a bath, and put them to bed. You're exhausted from work and you want some *me time.* Having to spend time with your kid in the evening is untenable. You plan the weekends for that.

PP(s) who keep accusing parents of this - most kids this age sleep 10-12 hours at night. If bedtime isn't until 10 because of a stupid mandatory 2-hour daycare nap, is the parent not supposed to wake them until late morning?! An early bedtime is appropriate for this age. Napping might not be.

Anonymous wrote:Just tell it like it is: you don't want your kid to nap so when you pick them up after 10 hours of childcare, all you have to do is throw them some food, *maybe* give them a bath, and put them to bed. You're exhausted from work and you want some *me time.* Having to spend time with your kid in the evening is untenable. You plan the weekends for that.

Look that may be your experience with some parents but I dropped my kid off at 830 and then we picked him up by 4. So yeah... with 2.5 hours out of the 7.5 being nap time he didnt need, it was difficult. Especially since bedtime was 10-11pm. Bedtime without the napping was still 8-9pm because he was low sleep needs to begin with.

My child has never been able to be in group care for more than 8-9 hours without losing his sh$% when he gets home. His decompression needs were increased with the amount of time he spent in care so we staggered our schedules to adjust to that.

The complaint here is making children nap when they no longer need it should stop and daycares need to stop saying it is a regulation requirement because it isnt.

COMAR states: There is no requirement that children must rest or nap for a specific
length of time. The length of time that children nap or rest must be appropriate to
their individual needs. However, based on general developmental characteristics,
you may wish to use the following suggested nap/rest timeframes for planning your
daily program.

Morning and afternoon naps for 1 to 3 hours (0-2)
Afternoon nap for 1½ – 3 hours (2-4)
Afternoon rest – quiet activities for 30 minutes to one hour (5-6)

Just tell it like it is: you don't want your kid to nap so when you pick them up after 10 hours of childcare, all you have to do is throw them some food, *maybe* give them a bath, and put them to bed. You're exhausted from work and you want some *me time.* Having to spend time with your kid in the evening is untenable. You plan the weekends for that.

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Anonymous wrote:They tell you they allow books, toys etc but the reality is they don't. Kids are laying there for two hours listening to music. I work at Montessori school.

That is child abuse. I can’t believe parents tolerate this.

That was not the case at my kids’ DCPS preschools. I volunteered regularly at each and saw kids quietly playing or looking at books on their cots during quiet time. No one was forced to lie and stare at the ceiling lol

Anonymous wrote:The regulations don't always say nap time FYI. They say opportunity to rest which can mean quiet time. You need to look up the COMAR and then have your daycares post their own rules. They use licensing regulations as a scapegoat and no one calls them on it to provide. If it's their policy it must be written down and provided to you in writing. It's also ridiculous to have 2 hour naps for most kids this age. And the naps are too late in the day.

There were so many frustrating components of daycare but the nap was the worst one. And it's not a short season. It can be a year or two for some families. I won't even talk about how little outdoor time most kids get. They are fanatical about naps but not the other components of childhood development.

100% agree. I got told the same thing but no one could produce it in writing.

This is literally the reason we pulled out of daycare when our DD was 3.5. A 3yo that can’t read can’t “ look at books” in a darkish room, quietly for 2 hours. She would doze off because it was dark and quiet for 2 hours.
Then bedtime would be gone 10pm which is later than I go to bed. We changed our schedules and got a PT sitter and she was sleeping 730-730 with no nap.

So sorry, PP with non sleeper. How is she doing at night?

The regulations don't always say nap time FYI. They say opportunity to rest which can mean quiet time. You need to look up the COMAR and then have your daycares post their own rules. They use licensing regulations as a scapegoat and no one calls them on it to provide. If it's their policy it must be written down and provided to you in writing. It's also ridiculous to have 2 hour naps for most kids this age. And the naps are too late in the day.

There were so many frustrating components of daycare but the nap was the worst one. And it's not a short season. It can be a year or two for some families. I won't even talk about how little outdoor time most kids get. They are fanatical about naps but not the other components of childhood development.

Anonymous wrote:PP, it is too late at age of 2, those habits are formed much earlier, or there are underlying issues that are not addressed by your pediatrician like maybe certain food intolerances, etc. Master's has nothing to do with it. I had a kid with severe eczema who only napped on my lap until age 3, but at least he napped. Somehow, he knew his parents thought he would not nap with them, so he did that exact thing, would not nap. Eczema was much better during the week with the nanny while taking even short 40 min naps. Would scratch himself all over and had bleeding hands coming from weekends. Was calmer with much improved eczema by Wednesday.

Are you intentionally obtuse or just really ignorant?

She has been this way since birth, is my point. We started trying to address the sleep issues at birth, not at age 2.

She has been blood and skin tested for every allergy.

She has had GI studies.

She has had sleep studies.

She has been to a neurologist.

She has had occupational therapy.

She has been to 6 pediatricians.

She has been to ENTs.

She has been to a pediatric dentist for tongue ties.

And we have tried a million other things. You have absolutely no idea what we’ve dealt with, and you have no idea about sleep problems. I do.

PP, it is too late at age of 2, those habits are formed much earlier, or there are underlying issues that are not addressed by your pediatrician like maybe certain food intolerances, etc. Master's has nothing to do with it. I had a kid with severe eczema who only napped on my lap until age 3, but at least he napped. Somehow, he knew his parents thought he would not nap with them, so he did that exact thing, would not nap. Eczema was much better during the week with the nanny while taking even short 40 min naps. Would scratch himself all over and had bleeding hands coming from weekends. Was calmer with much improved eczema by Wednesday.

Anonymous wrote:PP whose daughter stopped napping at 2, sorry about that, must be rough, and thanks for not sending her to a daycare. However, you do not need a trainer. Get a very experienced older nanny, and see the results. Sometimes, when you do not have enough confidence, children can sense it. Case for a grandma!

Hahaha oh you mean like her nanny with a master’s degree in child development who has raised 4 children including 2 from foster care who ALSO could not get her to sleep? Or do you mean the 3 night doulas/newborn care specialists with collectively 30+ years of experience who said she was the worst sleeper they’d ever seen and who also couldn’t get her to sleep? Or do you mean my mother, who raised 3 children, who lived with us for a year to help who ALSO couldn’t get her to sleep?

Yes, I suppose we are all just lacking your confidence. That much is clear.

PP whose daughter stopped napping at 2, sorry about that, must be rough, and thanks for not sending her to a daycare. However, you do not need a trainer. Get a very experienced older nanny, and see the results. Sometimes, when you do not have enough confidence, children can sense it. Case for a grandma!