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Anonymous wrote:OP the answers you're getting here are mostly made up nonsense. These people don't know the scores of every student in their kid's school.

Except we do… scattergrams.

Nice try. The scattergrams are not showing this year's offers. They are last year's. Moot.

And they are incomplete. The kids have to enter that data themselves or it doesn't show up.

But what’s entered is accurate because it’s entered by the school. If scattergrams shows 59 applicants with a bunch of x’s and 2 with green check marks, what matters is you still have accurate info for the green checkmarks. Its not like the info is inaccurate because it failed to capture 4 other applicants’ results.

Anonymous wrote:Hispanic seems to be a huge hook in the last 3 years. One grandparent from Cuba or Brazil seems to do the trick…

+10000

Anonymous wrote:Hispanic seems to be a huge hook in the last 3 years. One grandparent from Cuba or Brazil seems to do the trick…

That's not what we've seen. Most top tier acceptances at my kid's very diverse school were Asian and white.

Anonymous wrote:Geographic diversity and SES diversity are factors, too, not just URMs, athletes, or legacies.

What is SES?

I agree that for some kids you do know.

In one case, his mother told me. She was as surprised as everyone else that her middle class Asian kid, a smart, well-rounded student but without any shockingly outstanding achievements, got early admittance to one of the HYPSM. They felt they'd won the lottery. It was nice to see that, frankly, when all you usually hear about are excellent students getting rejected. I was happy for them.

Of course... most excellent students get rejected. Please keep in mind the statistics are not in any student's favor!

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Anonymous wrote:At our private, the parents were all shocked by a Penn admittance last year with a 3.75 and 1490. We couldn’t figure it out and suspect some shenanigans

How do you know the stats?

You know the stats because they come out on SCOIR or Naviance the next year. At a private of 70 kids, there may be 10 kids who apply to Penn. Two get in.
The next year you see the admitted kids' stats on SCOIR as well as their intended majors.
So is it very easy to match up stats with a kid.
Plus one school we know removes all hooked kid data from SCOIR. So you know if you see the stats on SCOIR that the kid was unhooked.

Plus all the kids talk. They know who is smart and does well. They know who consistently gets Bs or a C on all tests. It's not like a public where there are 550 kids in a grade and there are 450 of them that you have never met or had in class. When there are 70 the kids know. But that is really besides the point because it all comes out in SCOIR anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:OP the answers you're getting here are mostly made up nonsense. These people don't know the scores of every student in their kid's school.

I’m the Yale poster - I absolutely do! This is a girl who sleeps at my house every weekend. Calm down.

Did you ask her for her high school stats before you allowed her in your house?

Anonymous wrote:op here
courses are very rigorous and he is doing well… but the tons of ECs / leaderships /etc I always hear about to get into an Ivy, he does not have… at all.

well …thats why just wondering…

Does not hurt to apply, but it makes odds less likely.

I would try CalTech ED for such a kid (assuming you are OK with potentially full pay)

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Anonymous wrote:At our private, the parents were all shocked by a Penn admittance last year with a 3.75 and 1490. We couldn’t figure it out and suspect some shenanigans

How do you know the stats?

everyone knows everything about each kid at our private - stats, ECs, recommendations, targets/reaches/safeties, ED/RD, strategies. It lends itself to a real collegial and supportive environment where everyone is rooting for other people’s kids and there is no back stabbing or schadenfreude

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Anonymous wrote:OP the answers you're getting here are mostly made up nonsense. These people don't know the scores of every student in their kid's school.

Except we do… scattergrams.

Nice try. The scattergrams are not showing this year's offers. They are last year's. Moot.

And they are incomplete. The kids have to enter that data themselves or it doesn't show up.

Anonymous wrote:At our private, the parents were all shocked by a Penn admittance last year with a 3.75 and 1490. We couldn’t figure it out and suspect some shenanigans

How do you know the stats?

Anonymous wrote:Yes--URMS, recruited athletes, very wealthy legacies.

Not this cycle, but very recently: a 2.3 unweighted GPA that is a double in this category. HYP.

Anonymous wrote:At our private, the parents were all shocked by a Penn admittance last year with a 3.75 and 1490. We couldn’t figure it out and suspect some shenanigans

What kind ?

At our private, the parents were all shocked by a Penn admittance last year with a 3.75 and 1490. We couldn’t figure it out and suspect some shenanigans

Hispanic seems to be a huge hook in the last 3 years. One grandparent from Cuba or Brazil seems to do the trick…