Anonymous
Post 05/07/2024 21:57     Subject: Pressured to do something unethical

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ask them if they could put that request in a email and send it to you. If they balk, then just roll your eyes.

They did! They sent a mass email with vague requests on how to elevate requests - I promptly replied with the policies that apply - then they went over me to discuss with the office director level. So then it went beyond me and I'm supposed to wait for direction from leadership.


Then do that. What is the issue?
Don't let this take up space in your head while others resolve. You did the right thing. Move on.



+1. there is no issue anymore.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2024 21:06     Subject: Pressured to do something unethical

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not as a fed, but was asked to help a contractor underbid another contractor (tell them what the other guys bid). I refused, even though I was told it was standard operating procedure. Leadership backed down, and allowed the process to go on as planned.
Their friend lost the bid fair and square. Had they not backed down, I was willing to quit


I used to sell consulting and quite often people wanted to hire my firm as we were really good. It it was competitive bidding I tell them tell me lowest and if I can will beat it if not I will not bid.

It was win win they got who they wanted at a lower price and I did not waste their time and my time bidding on something my bid was too high.

What is problem?



Yes. Definitely.

You had an advantage other firms did not.

Those people were breaking the rules/law. (Every bidder has to be given the same specs on the job, going into their bid)

Lots of illegal acts are “win-wins” for the criminals involved.


You’re an idiot whose never has a real job. Of course they go back to others and tell me my low bid. I walked away 2/3rds the time as to low. That’s ke game played. There are no laws over bidding in real world.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2024 20:16     Subject: Pressured to do something unethical

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not as a fed, but was asked to help a contractor underbid another contractor (tell them what the other guys bid). I refused, even though I was told it was standard operating procedure. Leadership backed down, and allowed the process to go on as planned.
Their friend lost the bid fair and square. Had they not backed down, I was willing to quit


I used to sell consulting and quite often people wanted to hire my firm as we were really good. It it was competitive bidding I tell them tell me lowest and if I can will beat it if not I will not bid.

It was win win they got who they wanted at a lower price and I did not waste their time and my time bidding on something my bid was too high.

What is problem?



Yes. Definitely.

You had an advantage other firms did not.

Those people were breaking the rules/law. (Every bidder has to be given the same specs on the job, going into their bid)

Lots of illegal acts are “win-wins” for the criminals involved.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2024 18:13     Subject: Pressured to do something unethical

My fed gov HR office routinely lies to staff and makes us statements by outside third parties to back up their lies. I don’t think anything can be done. They are basically free to do what they want.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2024 18:05     Subject: Pressured to do something unethical

Anonymous wrote:Just send an email to your supervisor stating that you believe that what they’re forcing you to do is not allowed


Nope. This "you believe that what they're forcing you to do is not allowed" isn't enough. You better be damn sure about it.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2024 13:45     Subject: Pressured to do something unethical

Just send an email to your supervisor stating that you believe that what they’re forcing you to do is not allowed