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Anonymous wrote:That list makes it hard to say no to UVA. Deciding between there and Emory

Well, except you have to get accepted into the business program after the first year, and only 50% of applicants are accepted.

That is something you want to think about.

Facts. I’d pick Emory if cost was not a consideration.

Anonymous wrote:That list makes it hard to say no to UVA. Deciding between there and Emory

Well, except you have to get accepted into the business program after the first year, and only 50% of applicants are accepted.

That is something you want to think about.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s your real top ten:

US News' 2024 rankings for business programs:

2024 Rank Institution 2023 Rank Change 2022 Rank
1 University of Pennsylvania (Wharton) 1 0 1
2 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 2 0 2
2 University of California, Berkeley (Haas) 2 0 3
4 University of Michigan–Ann Arbor (Ross) 4 0 4
5 New York University (Stern) 5 0 5
5 University of Texas at Austin (McCombs) 7 2 5
7 Carnegie Mellon University (Tepper) 5 -2 7
8 Cornell University (Dyson) 8 0 8
8 Indiana University–Bloomington (Kelley) 8 0 8
8 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (Kenan-Flagler) 8 0 8
8 University of Southern California (Marshall) 8 0 12

Much more accurate than P&Q

If you like social justice and equity, US News is your Gold Standard. If you like objective performance, you use Poets and Quants. This isn't hard.

again, P&Q is based on surveys.

That list makes it hard to say no to UVA. Deciding between there and Emory

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting. Higher SAT scores at Indiana than at UVA, Georgetown, and UNC.

The SAT only includes direct admits to Kelley, of which there are not many.

Not sure what you’re talking about. Indiana Kelley is huge, with over 10,000 students. The vast majority of those are direct admits.

Something is amiss. Indiana's average SAT is more like 1300. Makes no sense.

It is supposed to be the SAT for Kelley students only. Not all of IU.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting. Higher SAT scores at Indiana than at UVA, Georgetown, and UNC.

The SAT only includes direct admits to Kelley, of which there are not many.

not only that.. Georgetown requires scores (all scores), the other schools are test optional.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA and VT?

UVA 4TH. Sure that's why this thread was started.

But the “southern” school that no one would dare send their kid to beat them 😂 - go cocks!

Are you talking about University of South Carolina? They are 47th?? Who did they beat?

I think pp misread, and confused University of Southern California with University of South Carolina
😂 whoops embarrassing!
There’s only one USC pp, Fight on!

The Gamecocks and the Trojans are a great match.

No

Poets and Quants ranked by 5 year ROI:

https://poetsandquantsforundergrads.com/admissions/the-roi-of-pqs-top-ranked-business-schools/

SCHOOL IN-STATE TOTAL COST (4-YEAR) TOTAL SALARY (5-YEAR) ROI $ ROI %
University of North Carolina (Kenan-Flagler) $93,216 $432,218.05 $339,002.05 363.67%
University of Michigan (Ross) $141,272 $471,470.00 $330,198.48 233.73%
University of Virginia (McIntire) $164,004 $465,900.00 $301,896.00 184.08%
Binghamton University $116,637 $413,415.00 $296,778.00 254.45%
William & Mary (Mason) $150,502 $426,435.00 $275,933.00 183.34%
Rutgers Business School – New Brunswick $118,440 $394,274.55 $275,834.65 232.89%
Indiana University (Kelley) $113,375 $383,525.00 $270,150.00 238.28%
Florida International University $51,836 $308,335.00 $256,499.00 494.83%
Georgia Institute of Technology (Scheller) $161,392 $414,420.00 $253,028.00 156.78%
Cornell University (Dyson SC John) $238,409 $490,330.00 $251,921.00 105.67%
University of Wisconsin-Madison $115,722 $366,505.00 $250,783.08 216.71%
University of Houston (Bauer) $100,466 $347,880.00 $247,414.00 246.27%
University of Washington (Foster) $138,216 $385,025.00 $246,809.00 178.57%
Purdue University (Daniels) $97,952 $344,285.00 $246,333.00 251.48%
University of Illinois (Gies) $161,896 $398,990.00 $237,094.00 146.45%
University of Georgia (Terry) $110,596 $344,140.00 $233,544.00 211.17%
Rutgers Business School – Newark $118,321 $351,555.00 $233,234.40 197.12%
University of South Carolina (Darla Moore) $109,723 $342,824.55 $233,101.73 212.45%
Texas A&M University (Mays) $124,202 $356,605.00 $232,403.32 187.12%
University of Texas at Dallas (Jindal) $137,448 $364,500.00 $227,052.00 165.19%
University of Pennsylvania (Wharton) $309,442 $536,075.00 $226,633.00 73.24%
Miami University (Farmer) $137,368 $349,120.00 $211,752.00 154.15%
University of Minnesota (Carlson) $142,528 $349,555.00 $207,027.00 145.25%
University of Arizona (Eller) $134,484 $333,250.00 $198,766.00 147.80%
University of Delaware (Lerner) $125,226 $322,910.00 $197,684.00 157.86%
University of North Carolina-Wilmington (Cameron) $92,704 $287,850.00 $195,146.00 210.50%
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee (Lubar) $85,224 $279,715.00 $194,491.00 228.21%
University of Pittsburgh $167,048 $360,500.00 $193,452.00 115.81%
Ohio University $90,096 $282,350.45 $192,254.45 213.39%
Texas Tech University (Rawls) $109,256 $300,380.00 $191,124.00 174.93%
Bowling Green State University (Schmidthorst) $100,916 $291,765.00 $190,849.40 189.12%
University of Kentucky (Gatton) $140,392 $330,110.00 $189,718.00 135.13%
University of Texas at Arlington $115,488 $303,380.00 $187,892.00 162.69%
Northern Illinois University $111,092 $298,930.00 $187,838.00 169.08%
College of New Jersey $144,340 $329,610.00 $185,270.00 128.36%
Georgetown University (McDonough) $323,857 $504,295.75 $180,438.75 55.72%
University of Akron $109,330 $288,364.55 $179,034.55 163.76%
University of Oklahoma (Price) $139,368 $315,965.00 $176,597.00 126.71%
University of Utah (Eccles) $147,115 $322,500.00 $175,384.95 119.22%
Towson University $117,427 $290,000 $172,573 146.96%
University of New Hampshire (Paul) $145,166 $315,795.00 $170,629.00 117.54%
Christopher Newport University $128,071 $292,965.00 $164,894.00 128.75%
Carnegie Mellon University (Tepper) $307,159 $471,705.00 $164,546.00 53.57%
Oregon State University $125,688 $286,410.00 $160,722.00 127.87%
University of Tennessee (Haslam) $141,245 $298,935.00 $157,690.00 111.64%
San Diego State University $155,896 $311,430.00 $155,534.00 99.77%
University of Michigan-Dearborn $113,634 $266,665.00 $153,031.00 134.67%
Michigan State University (Broad) $206,112 $351,895.00 $145,783.00 70.73%
Washington University in St. Louis (Olin) $321,592 $451,855.00 $130,263.00 40.51%
Emory University (Goizueta) $299,420 $426,575.00 $127,155.00 42.47%
University of Notre Dame (Mendoza) $309,404 $435,000.00 $125,596.00 40.59%
Elon University (Love) $221,192 $345,060.00 $123,868.00 56.00%
Sacred Heart University $261,556 $381,515.00 $119,959.00 45.86%
Lehigh University $299,545 $417,975.00 $118,430.00 39.54%
University of Southern California (Marshall) $354,548 $466,235.00 $111,687.00 31.50%
University of Miami (Herbert) $298,968 $408,980.00 $110,012.00 36.80%
Florida Southern College $162,000 $271,640.00 $109,640.00 67.68%
New York University (Stern) $350,874 $460,330.00 $109,456.00 31.20%
Worcester Polytechnic Institute $292,563 $398,095.00 $105,532.00 36.07%
Villanova University School of Business $310,884 $415,040.00 $104,156.00 33.50%
University of Richmond (Robins) $293,660 $393,355.00 $99,695.00 33.95%
University of San Diego $291,992 $386,210.00 $94,218.00 32.27%
Wake Forest University $336,000 $428,915.00 $92,915.00 27.65%
Marian University (Byrum) $198,696 $290,720.00 $92,024.00 46.31%
Bucknell University $315,313 $404,430.00 $89,117.00 28.26%
Saint Louis University (Chaifetz) $265,416 $352,160.00 $86,744.00 32.68%
St. John’s University (Tobin) $270,635 $351,550.00 $80,915.00 29.90%
Fordham University (Gabelli) $319,805 $393,745.00 $73,940.00 23.12%
Northeastern University (D’Amore-McKim) $347,284 $418,200.00 $70,916.00 20.42%
Drexel University (LeBow) $290,696 $360,520.00 $69,824.00 24.02%
Hofstra University (Zarb) $253,257 $320,540.00 $67,283.00 26.57%
Texas Christian University (Neeley) $288,944 $355,755.00 $66,811.00 23.12%
Boston University (Questrom) $319,994 $385,395.00 $65,401.00 20.44%
Southern Methodist University (Cox) $348,544 $407,715.00 $59,171.00 16.98%
University of Dayton School of Business Administration $248,860 $307,150.00 $58,290.00 23.42%
University of Evansville (Schroeder) $223,788 $281,625.00 $57,837.00 25.84%
Seton Hall University (Stillman) $269,440 $326,275.00 $56,835.00 21.09%
American University (Kogod) $304,706 $359,500.00 $54,794.00 17.98%
Tulane University (Freeman) $318,193 $372,340.00 $54,147.00 17.02%
Lipscomb University $227,012 $275,010.00 $47,998.00 21.14%
Roger Williams University (Gabelli) $235,964 $283,485.00 $47,521.00 20.14%
University of Denver (Daniels) $291,594 $335,565.00 $43,971.00 15.08%
Syracuse University (Whitman) $305,535 $345,755.00 $40,220.00 13.16%
Loyola Marymount University $317,228 $355,235.00 $38,007.00 11.98%
Providence College $293,080 $327,205.00 $34,125.00 11.64%
University of the Pacific (Eberhardt) $280,364 $313,640.00 $33,276.00 11.87%
Rochester Institute of Technology (Saunders) $301,560 $331,000.00 $29,440.00 9.76%
Seattle University (Albers) $294,180 $315,725.00 $21,545.00 7.32%
Duquesne University (Palumbo Donahue) $272,656 $285,640.00 $12,984.00 4.76%
Ithaca College $261,462 $246,650.00 -$14,812.00 -5.67%
Hult International Business School $331,200 $214,500.00 -$116,700.00 -35.24%