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Anonymous wrote:School Board and Court denied her being able to play at Independence. She says she was bullied at Lightridge, but there's no real known evidence.

If she was bullied why didn't she choose to go to a school much closer to where she lives (ie John Champe, Freedom, etc.)? Instead chose the school that made it to the state finals in lacrosse last year.

My DD is friends with several girls on the Lightridge lacrosse team and they are pretty adamant that this is purely a desire to move to a better team team.

Not sure you’re familiar with the area but we previously lived in that area and Champe and Independence (there are cut throughs across rt. 50 to it) would be close to equally distant depending where she lived in the Lightridge zone, and Freedom farther. Not to mention the article said she had friends at Independence so a built in support system would be important if she was having social struggles affecting her mental health at Lightridge. I think we can all agree on that as parents. And since the girls who started the Lightridge team are now seniors I’d imagine they’d be similar in strength to Independence by this point. As far as what the girls are saying, if you’re a parent of teenagers you know that of course they all have opinions and not all of the facts unless they were directly involved. Regardless it’s ridiculous and a slippery slope to question the mental health of a teenage girl who wants to switch schools for her senior year-that’s not the norm. If she wanted a guarantee to win some sort of championship she probably would have switched to PVI. But it’s like a victim of assault—what teenage girl would really subject herself to this if she wasn’t struggling at her school. I also think it’s horrible a kid’s name was used from Lightridge and that the team as a whole has now been insinuated as bullies. Not sure why the school board dug their heels in sadly making this worse for all of the girls. They’ve also now set a precedent that if you’re struggling with mental health issues or bullying and you need to transfer schools that you can’t participate in sports and extracurriculars that are documented to help with mental health. Sad all around.

Indy was ranked 16th by MaxPreps, Lightridge in the 30s.

They've not set any sort of precedence, Lauren. That dog isn't going to hunt. I see you making that argument in other forums and the like, but that's not a factual interpretation of what's happening here. And how dare you complain about mental illness and allow your lawyer to make unsubstantiated accusations on the courthouse steps about another child? By name?

I’m assuming Lauren is the mom and sorry but that’s not me but I’m guessing from the comments it’s personal and there are both parties represented here. I wouldn’t put my kid through this if she had mental health struggles, even if she begged me to fight it. It’s not healthy and I would as I suggested probably move her to a private school or move to a new district because I know from living there that LoCo is a small world, especially for the kids and with social media. I’m guessing you’re directly involved in this based on your comments but if you took the time to read my comment I said it was wrong to mention a child’s name—assuming she was 18 maybe it’s legal but absolutely wrong and no doubt that kid is now struggling too. I also said it’s bad because that entire team now has to deal with speculation that they’re bullies.

But I do stand by the fact that I find it hard to believe a senior girl would chose to switch high schools for that final year for the sole reason to potentially win a state championship in one sport. It’s just not something you see a girl who is happy and thriving at her school do. Plus, no offense this is not MD private school level lacrosse with a championship meaning you’re one of the best HS teams in the country, and if Indy is 16th how do they even have a shot not being top 10? At a minimum she was having social issues whether it was in school or in sports. And I’m not sure who has the right to question that because I would not respond well if someone was questioning if any of my daughters or sons was struggling—that’s gross.

And is this woman wrong saying that a kid who transferred for the same reasons but was in marching band could participate in that or could get the lead in a play? The rule only applies to sports? That seems a messed up message too.

Yes, she's wrong. VHSL stands for Virginia High School League. It governs athletics statewide. The eligibility provision is a statewide rule, not something LCPS made up. What they wanted was a WAIVER and LCPS denied it, likely because of the optics that have been discussed here. So they sued, arguing that their daughter had some right to play on the high school team because of her mental health. LCPS and a judge decided the interests of others outweighed that.

But there's NOTHING here that restricts a student who transfers from doing activities like marching band, theater, yearbook, Model UN, or whatever. And suggesting that there's some precedent here that DOES restrict transferees from doing that is just a lie. This is entirely about athletics. And the policy is in place to prevent recruiting between HS and player poaching.

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Anonymous wrote:The family is still stamping its feet and isn't giving up legally:

https://wjla.com/news/local/loudoun-county-school-board-lcps-bullying-lacrosse-lily-sigler-mental-health-sports-student-athlete-sports-community-high-school-athletics

I will say WJLA's coverage of this has been abysmal. Stick to Loudoun Now or Loudoun Times.

WJLA has an anti-LCPS agenda that I assume stems from their ownership (Sinclair).
Their reporting on this has been incredibly one-sided.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a false rebuke of wp. If she were a poc, would never have been challenged.

I don't want to hijack this already provocative discussion into a debate about race favoritism, but by gosh that sure is true. If the student who claiming bullying was a POC, whether true or false, and whether racism was or was not part of the allegations, the result would have been 100% different. anybody who disagrees with that is either lying or has their eyes closed.

This is absolutely true. There is a double standard. I know the people involved and getting to a state championship had nothing to do with this transfer. The optics are unfortunate. I understand why the rules are in place and you don't want a coach or school recruiting a whole team of players but I think in this situation where we are talking about one girl, her senior year, they should have made the exception. One player is not going to be the factor that makes the team win a championship. if you read the other threads Battlefield is parents are pretty convinced they are taking the championship this year. There is always drama with girls lacrosse in this area. Every club and every school. At the end of the day this is one child wanting to play a sport for a couple of months.

So now this hypothetical racist strawman is your argument? Puhleeze.

You're really grasping at straws.

The girl is being treated exactly the same as other athletes who have transferred and had their eligibility put on hiatus for one year. She's not special. The parents seem to think the rules shouldn't apply because she allegedly got bullied and has mental health problems. She still has her club team, could go play rec, and will play in college. It's not like playing HS lacrosse is all she has.

So you do know if she’s a senior in high school that club is over, there’s no spring club games anyway once in high school, and definitely no rec. Spring = high school lacrosse only.

https://fxasports.com/league-details/sunday-night-women-s-lacrosse-spring-24/LG4142647

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Anonymous wrote:I’m confused. If a student from LoCo transfers schools they can’t play sports for that school?

You've summed it up precisely. Whether it's the right thing to do (deny her the right to play) is up for debate.

This comment is straight garbage absolutely no one has the "RIGHT" to play!

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a false rebuke of wp. If she were a poc, would never have been challenged.

I don't want to hijack this already provocative discussion into a debate about race favoritism, but by gosh that sure is true. If the student who claiming bullying was a POC, whether true or false, and whether racism was or was not part of the allegations, the result would have been 100% different. anybody who disagrees with that is either lying or has their eyes closed.

This is absolutely true. There is a double standard. I know the people involved and getting to a state championship had nothing to do with this transfer. The optics are unfortunate. I understand why the rules are in place and you don't want a coach or school recruiting a whole team of players but I think in this situation where we are talking about one girl, her senior year, they should have made the exception. One player is not going to be the factor that makes the team win a championship. if you read the other threads Battlefield is parents are pretty convinced they are taking the championship this year. There is always drama with girls lacrosse in this area. Every club and every school. At the end of the day this is one child wanting to play a sport for a couple of months.

So now this hypothetical racist strawman is your argument? Puhleeze.

You're really grasping at straws.

The girl is being treated exactly the same as other athletes who have transferred and had their eligibility put on hiatus for one year. She's not special. The parents seem to think the rules shouldn't apply because she allegedly got bullied and has mental health problems. She still has her club team, could go play rec, and will play in college. It's not like playing HS lacrosse is all she has.

So you do know if she’s a senior in high school that club is over, there’s no spring club games anyway once in high school, and definitely no rec. Spring = high school lacrosse only.

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Anonymous wrote:School Board and Court denied her being able to play at Independence. She says she was bullied at Lightridge, but there's no real known evidence.

If she was bullied why didn't she choose to go to a school much closer to where she lives (ie John Champe, Freedom, etc.)? Instead chose the school that made it to the state finals in lacrosse last year.

My DD is friends with several girls on the Lightridge lacrosse team and they are pretty adamant that this is purely a desire to move to a better team team.

Not sure you’re familiar with the area but we previously lived in that area and Champe and Independence (there are cut throughs across rt. 50 to it) would be close to equally distant depending where she lived in the Lightridge zone, and Freedom farther. Not to mention the article said she had friends at Independence so a built in support system would be important if she was having social struggles affecting her mental health at Lightridge. I think we can all agree on that as parents. And since the girls who started the Lightridge team are now seniors I’d imagine they’d be similar in strength to Independence by this point. As far as what the girls are saying, if you’re a parent of teenagers you know that of course they all have opinions and not all of the facts unless they were directly involved. Regardless it’s ridiculous and a slippery slope to question the mental health of a teenage girl who wants to switch schools for her senior year-that’s not the norm. If she wanted a guarantee to win some sort of championship she probably would have switched to PVI. But it’s like a victim of assault—what teenage girl would really subject herself to this if she wasn’t struggling at her school. I also think it’s horrible a kid’s name was used from Lightridge and that the team as a whole has now been insinuated as bullies. Not sure why the school board dug their heels in sadly making this worse for all of the girls. They’ve also now set a precedent that if you’re struggling with mental health issues or bullying and you need to transfer schools that you can’t participate in sports and extracurriculars that are documented to help with mental health. Sad all around.

Indy was ranked 16th by MaxPreps, Lightridge in the 30s.

They've not set any sort of precedence, Lauren. That dog isn't going to hunt. I see you making that argument in other forums and the like, but that's not a factual interpretation of what's happening here. And how dare you complain about mental illness and allow your lawyer to make unsubstantiated accusations on the courthouse steps about another child? By name?

I’m assuming Lauren is the mom and sorry but that’s not me but I’m guessing from the comments it’s personal and there are both parties represented here. I wouldn’t put my kid through this if she had mental health struggles, even if she begged me to fight it. It’s not healthy and I would as I suggested probably move her to a private school or move to a new district because I know from living there that LoCo is a small world, especially for the kids and with social media. I’m guessing you’re directly involved in this based on your comments but if you took the time to read my comment I said it was wrong to mention a child’s name—assuming she was 18 maybe it’s legal but absolutely wrong and no doubt that kid is now struggling too. I also said it’s bad because that entire team now has to deal with speculation that they’re bullies.

But I do stand by the fact that I find it hard to believe a senior girl would chose to switch high schools for that final year for the sole reason to potentially win a state championship in one sport. It’s just not something you see a girl who is happy and thriving at her school do. Plus, no offense this is not MD private school level lacrosse with a championship meaning you’re one of the best HS teams in the country, and if Indy is 16th how do they even have a shot not being top 10? At a minimum she was having social issues whether it was in school or in sports. And I’m not sure who has the right to question that because I would not respond well if someone was questioning if any of my daughters or sons was struggling—that’s gross.

And is this woman wrong saying that a kid who transferred for the same reasons but was in marching band could participate in that or could get the lead in a play? The rule only applies to sports? That seems a messed up message too.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m confused. If a student from LoCo transfers schools they can’t play sports for that school?

You've summed it up precisely. Whether it's the right thing to do (deny her the right to play) is up for debate.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a false rebuke of wp. If she were a poc, would never have been challenged.

I don't want to hijack this already provocative discussion into a debate about race favoritism, but by gosh that sure is true. If the student who claiming bullying was a POC, whether true or false, and whether racism was or was not part of the allegations, the result would have been 100% different. anybody who disagrees with that is either lying or has their eyes closed.

This is absolutely true. There is a double standard. I know the people involved and getting to a state championship had nothing to do with this transfer. The optics are unfortunate. I understand why the rules are in place and you don't want a coach or school recruiting a whole team of players but I think in this situation where we are talking about one girl, her senior year, they should have made the exception. One player is not going to be the factor that makes the team win a championship. if you read the other threads Battlefield is parents are pretty convinced they are taking the championship this year. There is always drama with girls lacrosse in this area. Every club and every school. At the end of the day this is one child wanting to play a sport for a couple of months.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a false rebuke of wp. If she were a poc, would never have been challenged.

I don't want to hijack this already provocative discussion into a debate about race favoritism, but by gosh that sure is true. If the student who claiming bullying was a POC, whether true or false, and whether racism was or was not part of the allegations, the result would have been 100% different. anybody who disagrees with that is either lying or has their eyes closed.

This is absolutely true. There is a double standard. I know the people involved and getting to a state championship had nothing to do with this transfer. The optics are unfortunate. I understand why the rules are in place and you don't want a coach or school recruiting a whole team of players but I think in this situation where we are talking about one girl, her senior year, they should have made the exception. One player is not going to be the factor that makes the team win a championship. if you read the other threads Battlefield is parents are pretty convinced they are taking the championship this year. There is always drama with girls lacrosse in this area. Every club and every school. At the end of the day this is one child wanting to play a sport for a couple of months.

So now this hypothetical racist strawman is your argument? Puhleeze.

You're really grasping at straws.

The girl is being treated exactly the same as other athletes who have transferred and had their eligibility put on hiatus for one year. She's not special. The parents seem to think the rules shouldn't apply because she allegedly got bullied and has mental health problems. She still has her club team, could go play rec, and will play in college. It's not like playing HS lacrosse is all she has.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a false rebuke of wp. If she were a poc, would never have been challenged.

I don't want to hijack this already provocative discussion into a debate about race favoritism, but by gosh that sure is true. If the student who claiming bullying was a POC, whether true or false, and whether racism was or was not part of the allegations, the result would have been 100% different. anybody who disagrees with that is either lying or has their eyes closed.

This is absolutely true. There is a double standard. I know the people involved and getting to a state championship had nothing to do with this transfer. The optics are unfortunate. I understand why the rules are in place and you don't want a coach or school recruiting a whole team of players but I think in this situation where we are talking about one girl, her senior year, they should have made the exception. One player is not going to be the factor that makes the team win a championship. if you read the other threads Battlefield is parents are pretty convinced they are taking the championship this year. There is always drama with girls lacrosse in this area. Every club and every school. At the end of the day this is one child wanting to play a sport for a couple of months.

So now this hypothetical racist strawman is your argument? Puhleeze.

You're really grasping at straws.

The girl is being treated exactly the same as other athletes who have transferred and had their eligibility put on hiatus for one year. She's not special. The parents seem to think the rules shouldn't apply because she allegedly got bullied and has mental health problems. She still has her club team, could go play rec, and will play in college. It's not like playing HS lacrosse is all she has.

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Anonymous wrote:School Board and Court denied her being able to play at Independence. She says she was bullied at Lightridge, but there's no real known evidence.

If she was bullied why didn't she choose to go to a school much closer to where she lives (ie John Champe, Freedom, etc.)? Instead chose the school that made it to the state finals in lacrosse last year.

My DD is friends with several girls on the Lightridge lacrosse team and they are pretty adamant that this is purely a desire to move to a better team team.

Not sure you’re familiar with the area but we previously lived in that area and Champe and Independence (there are cut throughs across rt. 50 to it) would be close to equally distant depending where she lived in the Lightridge zone, and Freedom farther. Not to mention the article said she had friends at Independence so a built in support system would be important if she was having social struggles affecting her mental health at Lightridge. I think we can all agree on that as parents. And since the girls who started the Lightridge team are now seniors I’d imagine they’d be similar in strength to Independence by this point. As far as what the girls are saying, if you’re a parent of teenagers you know that of course they all have opinions and not all of the facts unless they were directly involved. Regardless it’s ridiculous and a slippery slope to question the mental health of a teenage girl who wants to switch schools for her senior year-that’s not the norm. If she wanted a guarantee to win some sort of championship she probably would have switched to PVI. But it’s like a victim of assault—what teenage girl would really subject herself to this if she wasn’t struggling at her school. I also think it’s horrible a kid’s name was used from Lightridge and that the team as a whole has now been insinuated as bullies. Not sure why the school board dug their heels in sadly making this worse for all of the girls. They’ve also now set a precedent that if you’re struggling with mental health issues or bullying and you need to transfer schools that you can’t participate in sports and extracurriculars that are documented to help with mental health. Sad all around.

Indy was ranked 16th by MaxPreps, Lightridge in the 30s.

They've not set any sort of precedence, Lauren. That dog isn't going to hunt. I see you making that argument in other forums and the like, but that's not a factual interpretation of what's happening here. And how dare you complain about mental illness and allow your lawyer to make unsubstantiated accusations on the courthouse steps about another child? By name?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a false rebuke of wp. If she were a poc, would never have been challenged.

I don't want to hijack this already provocative discussion into a debate about race favoritism, but by gosh that sure is true. If the student who claiming bullying was a POC, whether true or false, and whether racism was or was not part of the allegations, the result would have been 100% different. anybody who disagrees with that is either lying or has their eyes closed.

This is absolutely true. There is a double standard. I know the people involved and getting to a state championship had nothing to do with this transfer. The optics are unfortunate. I understand why the rules are in place and you don't want a coach or school recruiting a whole team of players but I think in this situation where we are talking about one girl, her senior year, they should have made the exception. One player is not going to be the factor that makes the team win a championship. if you read the other threads Battlefield is parents are pretty convinced they are taking the championship this year. There is always drama with girls lacrosse in this area. Every club and every school. At the end of the day this is one child wanting to play a sport for a couple of months.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a false rebuke of wp. If she were a poc, would never have been challenged.

I don't want to hijack this already provocative discussion into a debate about race favoritism, but by gosh that sure is true. If the student who claiming bullying was a POC, whether true or false, and whether racism was or was not part of the allegations, the result would have been 100% different. anybody who disagrees with that is either lying or has their eyes closed.

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Anonymous wrote:School Board and Court denied her being able to play at Independence. She says she was bullied at Lightridge, but there's no real known evidence.

If she was bullied why didn't she choose to go to a school much closer to where she lives (ie John Champe, Freedom, etc.)? Instead chose the school that made it to the state finals in lacrosse last year.

My DD is friends with several girls on the Lightridge lacrosse team and they are pretty adamant that this is purely a desire to move to a better team team.

Not sure you’re familiar with the area but we previously lived in that area and Champe and Independence (there are cut throughs across rt. 50 to it) would be close to equally distant depending where she lived in the Lightridge zone, and Freedom farther. Not to mention the article said she had friends at Independence so a built in support system would be important if she was having social struggles affecting her mental health at Lightridge. I think we can all agree on that as parents. And since the girls who started the Lightridge team are now seniors I’d imagine they’d be similar in strength to Independence by this point. As far as what the girls are saying, if you’re a parent of teenagers you know that of course they all have opinions and not all of the facts unless they were directly involved. Regardless it’s ridiculous and a slippery slope to question the mental health of a teenage girl who wants to switch schools for her senior year-that’s not the norm. If she wanted a guarantee to win some sort of championship she probably would have switched to PVI. But it’s like a victim of assault—what teenage girl would really subject herself to this if she wasn’t struggling at her school. I also think it’s horrible a kid’s name was used from Lightridge and that the team as a whole has now been insinuated as bullies. Not sure why the school board dug their heels in sadly making this worse for all of the girls. They’ve also now set a precedent that if you’re struggling with mental health issues or bullying and you need to transfer schools that you can’t participate in sports and extracurriculars that are documented to help with mental health. Sad all around.

Indy was ranked 16th by MaxPreps, Lightridge in the 30s.

They've not set any sort of precedence, Lauren. That dog isn't going to hunt. I see you making that argument in other forums and the like, but that's not a factual interpretation of what's happening here. And how dare you complain about mental illness and allow your lawyer to make unsubstantiated accusations on the courthouse steps about another child? By name?