Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You said the exact same thing back when Giuliani’s reforms made NYC safe, and saved all those lives (primarily the lives of underprivileged Black and POC men, who would otherwise be dead).

Today in DC, all the innocent residents are victimized by criminals who face no consequences.

"Saved all those lives?" "Primarily the lives of underprivileged Black and POC men, who would otherwise be dead"? I imagine Amadou Diallo would like a word, but he's dead because of the New York Police Department because he was armed with a wallet. And Sean Bell (unarmed). And Patrick Dorismond (unarmed). Yes, it's true that Abner Louima is not dead, but he was raped by members of the New York Police Department in the stationhouse of the New York Police Department.

Please specify which of "Giuliani's reforms made NYC safe"? David Dinkins's reforms to policing actually started the decline of the crime rate in New York City, not Giuliani's. Unlike Giuliani, Dinkins did it without encouraging the police department to regard constitutional protections for blacks as annoying little speed bumps. To the contrary, even though the city (and the nation; remember "it's the economy, stupid") was in an economic downturn, Dinkins managed to increase the budget of the NYPD and funding for diversion programs for youths before they were ensnared in the criminal justice system.

As part of his efforts, Dinkins announced creation of a civilian review board for oversight over NYPD misconduct. New York's finest reacted in a way that surprised no one: They rioted. Ten thousand cops protested, four thousand of whom blocked traffic on the Brooklyn Bridge before violently rushing City Hall and screaming racial epithets. And who was the ringleader of the mob of lawlessness that day: Rudolph William Louis Giuliani, the once defeated and future victorious mayoral candidate for the City of New York. Maybe that's the reform of which you speak?

Anonymous wrote:Someone posted in the recall thread:

“ It’s an abuse of the system and a waste of resources. These are people taking advantage of crime hysteria to push their agenda because they couldn't win elections. It's truly an annoyance”

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You said the exact same thing back when Giuliani’s reforms made NYC safe, and saved all those lives (primarily the lives of underprivileged Black and POC men, who would otherwise be dead).

Today in DC, all the innocent residents are victimized by criminals who face no consequences.

"Saved all those lives?" "Primarily the lives of underprivileged Black and POC men, who would otherwise be dead"? I imagine Amadou Diallo would like a word, but he's dead because of the New York Police Department because he was armed with a wallet. And Sean Bell (unarmed). And Patrick Dorismond (unarmed). Yes, it's true that Abner Louima is not dead, but he was raped by members of the New York Police Department in the stationhouse of the New York Police Department.

Please specify which of "Giuliani's reforms made NYC safe"? David Dinkins's reforms to policing actually started the decline of the crime rate in New York City, not Giuliani's. Unlike Giuliani, Dinkins did it without encouraging the police department to regard constitutional protections for blacks as annoying little speed bumps. To the contrary, even though the city (and the nation; remember "it's the economy, stupid") was in an economic downturn, Dinkins managed to increase the budget of the NYPD and funding for diversion programs for youths before they were ensnared in the criminal justice system.

As part of his efforts, Dinkins announced creation of a civilian review board for oversight over NYPD misconduct. New York's finest reacted in a way that surprised no one: They rioted. Ten thousand cops protested, four thousand of whom blocked traffic on the Brooklyn Bridge before violently rushing City Hall and screaming racial epithets. And who was the ringleader of the mob of lawlessness that day: Rudolph William Louis Giuliani, the once defeated and future victorious mayoral candidate for the City of New York. Maybe that's the reform of which you speak?

Those are tired, old, anecdotes you cited.

They are not statistics.

Serious question: are you DSA ?

Anonymous wrote:Singapore says otherwise

Civil liberties have swung too far in this country

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You said the exact same thing back when Giuliani’s reforms made NYC safe, and saved all those lives (primarily the lives of underprivileged Black and POC men, who would otherwise be dead).

Today in DC, all the innocent residents are victimized by criminals who face no consequences.

"Saved all those lives?" "Primarily the lives of underprivileged Black and POC men, who would otherwise be dead"? I imagine Amadou Diallo would like a word, but he's dead because of the New York Police Department because he was armed with a wallet. And Sean Bell (unarmed). And Patrick Dorismond (unarmed). Yes, it's true that Abner Louima is not dead, but he was raped by members of the New York Police Department in the stationhouse of the New York Police Department.

Please specify which of "Giuliani's reforms made NYC safe"? David Dinkins's reforms to policing actually started the decline of the crime rate in New York City, not Giuliani's. Unlike Giuliani, Dinkins did it without encouraging the police department to regard constitutional protections for blacks as annoying little speed bumps. To the contrary, even though the city (and the nation; remember "it's the economy, stupid") was in an economic downturn, Dinkins managed to increase the budget of the NYPD and funding for diversion programs for youths before they were ensnared in the criminal justice system.

As part of his efforts, Dinkins announced creation of a civilian review board for oversight over NYPD misconduct. New York's finest reacted in a way that surprised no one: They rioted. Ten thousand cops protested, four thousand of whom blocked traffic on the Brooklyn Bridge before violently rushing City Hall and screaming racial epithets. And who was the ringleader of the mob of lawlessness that day: Rudolph William Louis Giuliani, the once defeated and future victorious mayoral candidate for the City of New York. Maybe that's the reform of which you speak?

Anonymous wrote:
You said the exact same thing back when Giuliani’s reforms made NYC safe, and saved all those lives (primarily the lives of underprivileged Black and POC men, who would otherwise be dead).

Today in DC, all the innocent residents are victimized by criminals who face no consequences.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bullsh!t. They 'no paper' way too much!

I have friends and family who have been the victims of violent crimes in DC where the perpetrators were caught and then no papered.

How can you catch the carjacker wearing the exact outfit (down to the shoes) that the victim described IN the stolen car and then no paper for a lack of evidence? Bffr.

Keep up not prosecuting and watch more and more business HQs leave the city.

Myself and five friends/acquaintances have all been to DC Jail. We all got "no papered". Maybe the police needs to stop picking up people who have no business being locked up. It is so hard for the judges to figure out who needs to stay and who needs to go in twenty seconds even with help. The "helpers" were even worse and more confused.
We did nothing wrong and judges were just as confused why we would be there.

Anonymous wrote:Bullsh!t. They 'no paper' way too much!

I have friends and family who have been the victims of violent crimes in DC where the perpetrators were caught and then no papered.

How can you catch the carjacker wearing the exact outfit (down to the shoes) that the victim described IN the stolen car and then no paper for a lack of evidence? Bffr.

Keep up not prosecuting and watch more and more business HQs leave the city.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes you can, look at El Salvador after their mass incarceration campaign to break the back of gangs. Their country has improved dramatically:




When you lockup criminals, crime goes down. Really common sense logic.

No due process and many innocent people swept up in and jailed. I don’t think this is the model we want to follow.

You said the exact same thing back when Giuliani’s reforms made NYC safe, and saved all those lives (primarily the lives of underprivileged Black and POC men, who would otherwise be dead).

Today in DC, all the innocent residents are victimized by criminals who face no consequences.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even Morning Joe members are fed up with crime here. And Bowser seems more interested in putting out press releases about how to ruin Ward 3.

https://x.com/RyanSPowers/status/1758140793083036131?s=20

Bowser wants more “urban vibrancy” in Ward 3. Well, Madam Mayor has delivered. Look how the crime stats correlate quite tightly with the “voucher villages” that have taken over some apartment buildings along Connecticut Ave. And Bowser wants still more vouchers, more density, more “vibrancy” in Ward 3.