Not at all, just not nearly as narrow. Don’t just be happy to be there is the message and anyone who plays travel can play college soccer it’s not that difficult is the reality

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Anonymous wrote:My prediction is that ECNL is coming for the rest of GA

NEFC, Tophat, Lou Fusz, Cincinnati United

Maybe, this is only negative for GA if they don't replace IMO. Record shows they have replaced more than they have lost. If more GA clubs want to abandon ship, I don't see it as an obvious negative, more like clubs prioritizing how they want to be seen in the marketplace. ECNL is synomous with winning at all costs so that you can be seen by college coaches. GA is synomous with development at all costs so that girls can identify best options after HS, even if it means losing some notable clubs that are feeling pressure in their markets to win now. Don't think there is much to this continuos debate: One is bigger and attracts top playes to top teams, the other has a bigger vision for girls soccer as a whole and has some competitive teams. Pick the one that aligns with your values and goals.

I'm not sure how you don't see losing top clubs and just replacing them is not a bad thing? It's not just a numbers game. If the GA wants to remain a player in, let alone relevant in, college recruiting, they need to put a good product on the field which attracts the college coaches. If not, they will slowly fade into a second tier league and join the ranks of the many others out there.

It's not a bad thing, time will tell if its actually a good thing for GA. Grassroots development is how every other country does it and that appears to the direction they want to distinguish themselves with. In the US its the fight for college value and prestige, that is so moronic to soccer people outside of the US. Perception wise with parents GA is already 2nd tier, good thing parents pereceptions don't impact college coaches or socuts at all. Educated soccer consumers know there is room for several leagues. Coaches and scouts know to look beyond ECNL events for players, and they know they will always have to becasue all leagues are flawed in their own way, and team quality vary from year to year even

Perception is reality in this case. GA IS is a 2nd tier league.

Tell me that you're daughter is u13 without telling me she just made an ECNL club and you're excited about it.

The youth soccer landscape changes all the time. Ten years ago girls ECNL was on the ropes against DA. Ten years before that ECNL didn't exist.

My money is on US Soccer creating DA 2.0. The same people are still in charge and I'm sure they aren't happy how DA blew up. The MLS Next model has been proven successful and likely could be implemented with women now that NWSL is taking off.

Also with all the NCAA lawsuit drama going on right now a single verdict could force all kinds of schools to drop women's soccer programs. What would happen to girls ECNL then?

Keep your head in the sand, it's ok. No one will hold it against you. Years from now, things will change. Maybe then GA will be on some same level. Maybe higher level. Maybe not. But making decisions now for something that may or may not happen (and if it does will take years...), is called denial.

My kid plays on a GA team that's ranked higher than 95% of the ECNL teams.

We'll be fine. There's no FOMO here.

Also she's played for both ECNL and GA clubs. The way the leagues are run is nearly identical.

Yep. Why play for a low level ECNL team when you can play on a national contender. Some people have their priorities all messed up.

Correct, we'll be at IMG next week + expecting to do very well. Team is tight and we just picked up a defender from a local ECNL club who looks very good.

Good luck, it's a fun time. We had the same experience with oldest. Moving from a mediocre ECNL team to a top GA team was a big upgrade in terms of recruiting.

ECNL to GA is the move unless you have locked down one of those top 3 spots at your ECNL club; otherwise you are just fodder to be moved around to benefit the development of those top players so the team can win alot of games, the coach can take credit, and the club can collect more registrations by promising what 3 players get from this amazing ECNL team. its only about W's from this point on, hope college soccer is exactly what you want cause that's best case scenario for most girls in ECNL. Not a terrible outocme but who wants to be limited. Find minutes, freedom to play, and development aimed at girls only.

Are you implying that goals are different for GA girls?

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Anonymous wrote:My prediction is that ECNL is coming for the rest of GA

NEFC, Tophat, Lou Fusz, Cincinnati United

Maybe, this is only negative for GA if they don't replace IMO. Record shows they have replaced more than they have lost. If more GA clubs want to abandon ship, I don't see it as an obvious negative, more like clubs prioritizing how they want to be seen in the marketplace. ECNL is synomous with winning at all costs so that you can be seen by college coaches. GA is synomous with development at all costs so that girls can identify best options after HS, even if it means losing some notable clubs that are feeling pressure in their markets to win now. Don't think there is much to this continuos debate: One is bigger and attracts top playes to top teams, the other has a bigger vision for girls soccer as a whole and has some competitive teams. Pick the one that aligns with your values and goals.

I'm not sure how you don't see losing top clubs and just replacing them is not a bad thing? It's not just a numbers game. If the GA wants to remain a player in, let alone relevant in, college recruiting, they need to put a good product on the field which attracts the college coaches. If not, they will slowly fade into a second tier league and join the ranks of the many others out there.

It's not a bad thing, time will tell if its actually a good thing for GA. Grassroots development is how every other country does it and that appears to the direction they want to distinguish themselves with. In the US its the fight for college value and prestige, that is so moronic to soccer people outside of the US. Perception wise with parents GA is already 2nd tier, good thing parents pereceptions don't impact college coaches or socuts at all. Educated soccer consumers know there is room for several leagues. Coaches and scouts know to look beyond ECNL events for players, and they know they will always have to becasue all leagues are flawed in their own way, and team quality vary from year to year even

Perception is reality in this case. GA IS is a 2nd tier league.

Tell me that you're daughter is u13 without telling me she just made an ECNL club and you're excited about it.

The youth soccer landscape changes all the time. Ten years ago girls ECNL was on the ropes against DA. Ten years before that ECNL didn't exist.

My money is on US Soccer creating DA 2.0. The same people are still in charge and I'm sure they aren't happy how DA blew up. The MLS Next model has been proven successful and likely could be implemented with women now that NWSL is taking off.

Also with all the NCAA lawsuit drama going on right now a single verdict could force all kinds of schools to drop women's soccer programs. What would happen to girls ECNL then?

Keep your head in the sand, it's ok. No one will hold it against you. Years from now, things will change. Maybe then GA will be on some same level. Maybe higher level. Maybe not. But making decisions now for something that may or may not happen (and if it does will take years...), is called denial.

My kid plays on a GA team that's ranked higher than 95% of the ECNL teams.

We'll be fine. There's no FOMO here.

Also she's played for both ECNL and GA clubs. The way the leagues are run is nearly identical.

Yep. Why play for a low level ECNL team when you can play on a national contender. Some people have their priorities all messed up.

Correct, we'll be at IMG next week + expecting to do very well. Team is tight and we just picked up a defender from a local ECNL club who looks very good.

Good luck, it's a fun time. We had the same experience with oldest. Moving from a mediocre ECNL team to a top GA team was a big upgrade in terms of recruiting.

ECNL to GA is the move unless you have locked down one of those top 3 spots at your ECNL club; otherwise you are just fodder to be moved around to benefit the development of those top players so the team can win alot of games, the coach can take credit, and the club can collect more registrations by promising what 3 players get from this amazing ECNL team. its only about W's from this point on, hope college soccer is exactly what you want cause that's best case scenario for most girls in ECNL. Not a terrible outocme but who wants to be limited. Find minutes, freedom to play, and development aimed at girls only.

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Anonymous wrote:My prediction is that ECNL is coming for the rest of GA

NEFC, Tophat, Lou Fusz, Cincinnati United

Maybe, this is only negative for GA if they don't replace IMO. Record shows they have replaced more than they have lost. If more GA clubs want to abandon ship, I don't see it as an obvious negative, more like clubs prioritizing how they want to be seen in the marketplace. ECNL is synomous with winning at all costs so that you can be seen by college coaches. GA is synomous with development at all costs so that girls can identify best options after HS, even if it means losing some notable clubs that are feeling pressure in their markets to win now. Don't think there is much to this continuos debate: One is bigger and attracts top playes to top teams, the other has a bigger vision for girls soccer as a whole and has some competitive teams. Pick the one that aligns with your values and goals.

I'm not sure how you don't see losing top clubs and just replacing them is not a bad thing? It's not just a numbers game. If the GA wants to remain a player in, let alone relevant in, college recruiting, they need to put a good product on the field which attracts the college coaches. If not, they will slowly fade into a second tier league and join the ranks of the many others out there.

It's not a bad thing, time will tell if its actually a good thing for GA. Grassroots development is how every other country does it and that appears to the direction they want to distinguish themselves with. In the US its the fight for college value and prestige, that is so moronic to soccer people outside of the US. Perception wise with parents GA is already 2nd tier, good thing parents pereceptions don't impact college coaches or socuts at all. Educated soccer consumers know there is room for several leagues. Coaches and scouts know to look beyond ECNL events for players, and they know they will always have to becasue all leagues are flawed in their own way, and team quality vary from year to year even

Perception is reality in this case. GA IS is a 2nd tier league.

Tell me that you're daughter is u13 without telling me she just made an ECNL club and you're excited about it.

The youth soccer landscape changes all the time. Ten years ago girls ECNL was on the ropes against DA. Ten years before that ECNL didn't exist.

My money is on US Soccer creating DA 2.0. The same people are still in charge and I'm sure they aren't happy how DA blew up. The MLS Next model has been proven successful and likely could be implemented with women now that NWSL is taking off.

Also with all the NCAA lawsuit drama going on right now a single verdict could force all kinds of schools to drop women's soccer programs. What would happen to girls ECNL then?

Keep your head in the sand, it's ok. No one will hold it against you. Years from now, things will change. Maybe then GA will be on some same level. Maybe higher level. Maybe not. But making decisions now for something that may or may not happen (and if it does will take years...), is called denial.

My kid plays on a GA team that's ranked higher than 95% of the ECNL teams.

We'll be fine. There's no FOMO here.

Also she's played for both ECNL and GA clubs. The way the leagues are run is nearly identical.

Yep. Why play for a low level ECNL team when you can play on a national contender. Some people have their priorities all messed up.

Correct, we'll be at IMG next week + expecting to do very well. Team is tight and we just picked up a defender from a local ECNL club who looks very good.

Good luck, it's a fun time. We had the same experience with oldest. Moving from a mediocre ECNL team to a top GA team was a big upgrade in terms of recruiting.

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Anonymous wrote:My prediction is that ECNL is coming for the rest of GA

NEFC, Tophat, Lou Fusz, Cincinnati United

Maybe, this is only negative for GA if they don't replace IMO. Record shows they have replaced more than they have lost. If more GA clubs want to abandon ship, I don't see it as an obvious negative, more like clubs prioritizing how they want to be seen in the marketplace. ECNL is synomous with winning at all costs so that you can be seen by college coaches. GA is synomous with development at all costs so that girls can identify best options after HS, even if it means losing some notable clubs that are feeling pressure in their markets to win now. Don't think there is much to this continuos debate: One is bigger and attracts top playes to top teams, the other has a bigger vision for girls soccer as a whole and has some competitive teams. Pick the one that aligns with your values and goals.

I'm not sure how you don't see losing top clubs and just replacing them is not a bad thing? It's not just a numbers game. If the GA wants to remain a player in, let alone relevant in, college recruiting, they need to put a good product on the field which attracts the college coaches. If not, they will slowly fade into a second tier league and join the ranks of the many others out there.

It's not a bad thing, time will tell if its actually a good thing for GA. Grassroots development is how every other country does it and that appears to the direction they want to distinguish themselves with. In the US its the fight for college value and prestige, that is so moronic to soccer people outside of the US. Perception wise with parents GA is already 2nd tier, good thing parents pereceptions don't impact college coaches or socuts at all. Educated soccer consumers know there is room for several leagues. Coaches and scouts know to look beyond ECNL events for players, and they know they will always have to becasue all leagues are flawed in their own way, and team quality vary from year to year even

Perception is reality in this case. GA IS is a 2nd tier league.

Tell me that you're daughter is u13 without telling me she just made an ECNL club and you're excited about it.

The youth soccer landscape changes all the time. Ten years ago girls ECNL was on the ropes against DA. Ten years before that ECNL didn't exist.

My money is on US Soccer creating DA 2.0. The same people are still in charge and I'm sure they aren't happy how DA blew up. The MLS Next model has been proven successful and likely could be implemented with women now that NWSL is taking off.

Also with all the NCAA lawsuit drama going on right now a single verdict could force all kinds of schools to drop women's soccer programs. What would happen to girls ECNL then?

Keep your head in the sand, it's ok. No one will hold it against you. Years from now, things will change. Maybe then GA will be on some same level. Maybe higher level. Maybe not. But making decisions now for something that may or may not happen (and if it does will take years...), is called denial.

My kid plays on a GA team that's ranked higher than 95% of the ECNL teams.

We'll be fine. There's no FOMO here.

Also she's played for both ECNL and GA clubs. The way the leagues are run is nearly identical.

Yep. Why play for a low level ECNL team when you can play on a national contender. Some people have their priorities all messed up.

Correct, we'll be at IMG next week + expecting to do very well. Team is tight and we just picked up a defender from a local ECNL club who looks very good.

Cool story bro.

Don't worry I'll tell you what it's like since your ECNL team will never make it to the finals.

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Anonymous wrote:My prediction is that ECNL is coming for the rest of GA

NEFC, Tophat, Lou Fusz, Cincinnati United

Maybe, this is only negative for GA if they don't replace IMO. Record shows they have replaced more than they have lost. If more GA clubs want to abandon ship, I don't see it as an obvious negative, more like clubs prioritizing how they want to be seen in the marketplace. ECNL is synomous with winning at all costs so that you can be seen by college coaches. GA is synomous with development at all costs so that girls can identify best options after HS, even if it means losing some notable clubs that are feeling pressure in their markets to win now. Don't think there is much to this continuos debate: One is bigger and attracts top playes to top teams, the other has a bigger vision for girls soccer as a whole and has some competitive teams. Pick the one that aligns with your values and goals.

I'm not sure how you don't see losing top clubs and just replacing them is not a bad thing? It's not just a numbers game. If the GA wants to remain a player in, let alone relevant in, college recruiting, they need to put a good product on the field which attracts the college coaches. If not, they will slowly fade into a second tier league and join the ranks of the many others out there.

It's not a bad thing, time will tell if its actually a good thing for GA. Grassroots development is how every other country does it and that appears to the direction they want to distinguish themselves with. In the US its the fight for college value and prestige, that is so moronic to soccer people outside of the US. Perception wise with parents GA is already 2nd tier, good thing parents pereceptions don't impact college coaches or socuts at all. Educated soccer consumers know there is room for several leagues. Coaches and scouts know to look beyond ECNL events for players, and they know they will always have to becasue all leagues are flawed in their own way, and team quality vary from year to year even

Perception is reality in this case. GA IS is a 2nd tier league.

Tell me that you're daughter is u13 without telling me she just made an ECNL club and you're excited about it.

The youth soccer landscape changes all the time. Ten years ago girls ECNL was on the ropes against DA. Ten years before that ECNL didn't exist.

My money is on US Soccer creating DA 2.0. The same people are still in charge and I'm sure they aren't happy how DA blew up. The MLS Next model has been proven successful and likely could be implemented with women now that NWSL is taking off.

Also with all the NCAA lawsuit drama going on right now a single verdict could force all kinds of schools to drop women's soccer programs. What would happen to girls ECNL then?

Keep your head in the sand, it's ok. No one will hold it against you. Years from now, things will change. Maybe then GA will be on some same level. Maybe higher level. Maybe not. But making decisions now for something that may or may not happen (and if it does will take years...), is called denial.

My kid plays on a GA team that's ranked higher than 95% of the ECNL teams.

We'll be fine. There's no FOMO here.

Also she's played for both ECNL and GA clubs. The way the leagues are run is nearly identical.

Yep. Why play for a low level ECNL team when you can play on a national contender. Some people have their priorities all messed up.

Correct, we'll be at IMG next week + expecting to do very well. Team is tight and we just picked up a defender from a local ECNL club who looks very good.

Cool story bro.

Appreciate it, big dawg.

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Anonymous wrote:My prediction is that ECNL is coming for the rest of GA

NEFC, Tophat, Lou Fusz, Cincinnati United

Maybe, this is only negative for GA if they don't replace IMO. Record shows they have replaced more than they have lost. If more GA clubs want to abandon ship, I don't see it as an obvious negative, more like clubs prioritizing how they want to be seen in the marketplace. ECNL is synomous with winning at all costs so that you can be seen by college coaches. GA is synomous with development at all costs so that girls can identify best options after HS, even if it means losing some notable clubs that are feeling pressure in their markets to win now. Don't think there is much to this continuos debate: One is bigger and attracts top playes to top teams, the other has a bigger vision for girls soccer as a whole and has some competitive teams. Pick the one that aligns with your values and goals.

I'm not sure how you don't see losing top clubs and just replacing them is not a bad thing? It's not just a numbers game. If the GA wants to remain a player in, let alone relevant in, college recruiting, they need to put a good product on the field which attracts the college coaches. If not, they will slowly fade into a second tier league and join the ranks of the many others out there.

It's not a bad thing, time will tell if its actually a good thing for GA. Grassroots development is how every other country does it and that appears to the direction they want to distinguish themselves with. In the US its the fight for college value and prestige, that is so moronic to soccer people outside of the US. Perception wise with parents GA is already 2nd tier, good thing parents pereceptions don't impact college coaches or socuts at all. Educated soccer consumers know there is room for several leagues. Coaches and scouts know to look beyond ECNL events for players, and they know they will always have to becasue all leagues are flawed in their own way, and team quality vary from year to year even

Perception is reality in this case. GA IS is a 2nd tier league.

Tell me that you're daughter is u13 without telling me she just made an ECNL club and you're excited about it.

The youth soccer landscape changes all the time. Ten years ago girls ECNL was on the ropes against DA. Ten years before that ECNL didn't exist.

My money is on US Soccer creating DA 2.0. The same people are still in charge and I'm sure they aren't happy how DA blew up. The MLS Next model has been proven successful and likely could be implemented with women now that NWSL is taking off.

Also with all the NCAA lawsuit drama going on right now a single verdict could force all kinds of schools to drop women's soccer programs. What would happen to girls ECNL then?

Keep your head in the sand, it's ok. No one will hold it against you. Years from now, things will change. Maybe then GA will be on some same level. Maybe higher level. Maybe not. But making decisions now for something that may or may not happen (and if it does will take years...), is called denial.

My kid plays on a GA team that's ranked higher than 95% of the ECNL teams.

We'll be fine. There's no FOMO here.

Also she's played for both ECNL and GA clubs. The way the leagues are run is nearly identical.

Yep. Why play for a low level ECNL team when you can play on a national contender. Some people have their priorities all messed up.

Correct, we'll be at IMG next week + expecting to do very well. Team is tight and we just picked up a defender from a local ECNL club who looks very good.

Cool story bro.

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Anonymous wrote:My prediction is that ECNL is coming for the rest of GA

NEFC, Tophat, Lou Fusz, Cincinnati United

Maybe, this is only negative for GA if they don't replace IMO. Record shows they have replaced more than they have lost. If more GA clubs want to abandon ship, I don't see it as an obvious negative, more like clubs prioritizing how they want to be seen in the marketplace. ECNL is synomous with winning at all costs so that you can be seen by college coaches. GA is synomous with development at all costs so that girls can identify best options after HS, even if it means losing some notable clubs that are feeling pressure in their markets to win now. Don't think there is much to this continuos debate: One is bigger and attracts top playes to top teams, the other has a bigger vision for girls soccer as a whole and has some competitive teams. Pick the one that aligns with your values and goals.

I'm not sure how you don't see losing top clubs and just replacing them is not a bad thing? It's not just a numbers game. If the GA wants to remain a player in, let alone relevant in, college recruiting, they need to put a good product on the field which attracts the college coaches. If not, they will slowly fade into a second tier league and join the ranks of the many others out there.

It's not a bad thing, time will tell if its actually a good thing for GA. Grassroots development is how every other country does it and that appears to the direction they want to distinguish themselves with. In the US its the fight for college value and prestige, that is so moronic to soccer people outside of the US. Perception wise with parents GA is already 2nd tier, good thing parents pereceptions don't impact college coaches or socuts at all. Educated soccer consumers know there is room for several leagues. Coaches and scouts know to look beyond ECNL events for players, and they know they will always have to becasue all leagues are flawed in their own way, and team quality vary from year to year even

Perception is reality in this case. GA IS is a 2nd tier league.

Tell me that you're daughter is u13 without telling me she just made an ECNL club and you're excited about it.

The youth soccer landscape changes all the time. Ten years ago girls ECNL was on the ropes against DA. Ten years before that ECNL didn't exist.

My money is on US Soccer creating DA 2.0. The same people are still in charge and I'm sure they aren't happy how DA blew up. The MLS Next model has been proven successful and likely could be implemented with women now that NWSL is taking off.

Also with all the NCAA lawsuit drama going on right now a single verdict could force all kinds of schools to drop women's soccer programs. What would happen to girls ECNL then?

Keep your head in the sand, it's ok. No one will hold it against you. Years from now, things will change. Maybe then GA will be on some same level. Maybe higher level. Maybe not. But making decisions now for something that may or may not happen (and if it does will take years...), is called denial.

My kid plays on a GA team that's ranked higher than 95% of the ECNL teams.

We'll be fine. There's no FOMO here.

Also she's played for both ECNL and GA clubs. The way the leagues are run is nearly identical.

Yep. Why play for a low level ECNL team when you can play on a national contender. Some people have their priorities all messed up.

Correct, we'll be at IMG next week + expecting to do very well. Team is tight and we just picked up a defender from a local ECNL club who looks very good.

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Anonymous wrote:My prediction is that ECNL is coming for the rest of GA

NEFC, Tophat, Lou Fusz, Cincinnati United

Maybe, this is only negative for GA if they don't replace IMO. Record shows they have replaced more than they have lost. If more GA clubs want to abandon ship, I don't see it as an obvious negative, more like clubs prioritizing how they want to be seen in the marketplace. ECNL is synomous with winning at all costs so that you can be seen by college coaches. GA is synomous with development at all costs so that girls can identify best options after HS, even if it means losing some notable clubs that are feeling pressure in their markets to win now. Don't think there is much to this continuos debate: One is bigger and attracts top playes to top teams, the other has a bigger vision for girls soccer as a whole and has some competitive teams. Pick the one that aligns with your values and goals.

I'm not sure how you don't see losing top clubs and just replacing them is not a bad thing? It's not just a numbers game. If the GA wants to remain a player in, let alone relevant in, college recruiting, they need to put a good product on the field which attracts the college coaches. If not, they will slowly fade into a second tier league and join the ranks of the many others out there.

It's not a bad thing, time will tell if its actually a good thing for GA. Grassroots development is how every other country does it and that appears to the direction they want to distinguish themselves with. In the US its the fight for college value and prestige, that is so moronic to soccer people outside of the US. Perception wise with parents GA is already 2nd tier, good thing parents pereceptions don't impact college coaches or socuts at all. Educated soccer consumers know there is room for several leagues. Coaches and scouts know to look beyond ECNL events for players, and they know they will always have to becasue all leagues are flawed in their own way, and team quality vary from year to year even

Perception is reality in this case. GA IS is a 2nd tier league.

Tell me that you're daughter is u13 without telling me she just made an ECNL club and you're excited about it.

The youth soccer landscape changes all the time. Ten years ago girls ECNL was on the ropes against DA. Ten years before that ECNL didn't exist.

My money is on US Soccer creating DA 2.0. The same people are still in charge and I'm sure they aren't happy how DA blew up. The MLS Next model has been proven successful and likely could be implemented with women now that NWSL is taking off.

Also with all the NCAA lawsuit drama going on right now a single verdict could force all kinds of schools to drop women's soccer programs. What would happen to girls ECNL then?

Keep your head in the sand, it's ok. No one will hold it against you. Years from now, things will change. Maybe then GA will be on some same level. Maybe higher level. Maybe not. But making decisions now for something that may or may not happen (and if it does will take years...), is called denial.

My kid plays on a GA team that's ranked higher than 95% of the ECNL teams.

We'll be fine. There's no FOMO here.

Also she's played for both ECNL and GA clubs. The way the leagues are run is nearly identical.

Yep. Why play for a low level ECNL team when you can play on a national contender. Some people have their priorities all messed up.

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Anonymous wrote:My prediction is that ECNL is coming for the rest of GA

NEFC, Tophat, Lou Fusz, Cincinnati United

Maybe, this is only negative for GA if they don't replace IMO. Record shows they have replaced more than they have lost. If more GA clubs want to abandon ship, I don't see it as an obvious negative, more like clubs prioritizing how they want to be seen in the marketplace. ECNL is synomous with winning at all costs so that you can be seen by college coaches. GA is synomous with development at all costs so that girls can identify best options after HS, even if it means losing some notable clubs that are feeling pressure in their markets to win now. Don't think there is much to this continuos debate: One is bigger and attracts top playes to top teams, the other has a bigger vision for girls soccer as a whole and has some competitive teams. Pick the one that aligns with your values and goals.

I'm not sure how you don't see losing top clubs and just replacing them is not a bad thing? It's not just a numbers game. If the GA wants to remain a player in, let alone relevant in, college recruiting, they need to put a good product on the field which attracts the college coaches. If not, they will slowly fade into a second tier league and join the ranks of the many others out there.

It's not a bad thing, time will tell if its actually a good thing for GA. Grassroots development is how every other country does it and that appears to the direction they want to distinguish themselves with. In the US its the fight for college value and prestige, that is so moronic to soccer people outside of the US. Perception wise with parents GA is already 2nd tier, good thing parents pereceptions don't impact college coaches or socuts at all. Educated soccer consumers know there is room for several leagues. Coaches and scouts know to look beyond ECNL events for players, and they know they will always have to becasue all leagues are flawed in their own way, and team quality vary from year to year even

Perception is reality in this case. GA IS is a 2nd tier league.

Tell me that you're daughter is u13 without telling me she just made an ECNL club and you're excited about it.

The youth soccer landscape changes all the time. Ten years ago girls ECNL was on the ropes against DA. Ten years before that ECNL didn't exist.

My money is on US Soccer creating DA 2.0. The same people are still in charge and I'm sure they aren't happy how DA blew up. The MLS Next model has been proven successful and likely could be implemented with women now that NWSL is taking off.

Also with all the NCAA lawsuit drama going on right now a single verdict could force all kinds of schools to drop women's soccer programs. What would happen to girls ECNL then?

Keep your head in the sand, it's ok. No one will hold it against you. Years from now, things will change. Maybe then GA will be on some same level. Maybe higher level. Maybe not. But making decisions now for something that may or may not happen (and if it does will take years...), is called denial.

My kid plays on a GA team that's ranked higher than 95% of the ECNL teams.

We'll be fine. There's no FOMO here.

Also she's played for both ECNL and GA clubs. The way the leagues are run is nearly identical.

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Anonymous wrote:So why would Nationals leave GA if there is a “whole plan” in place for GA?

Do you think their teams were losing players? Do you think they felt the need to Win now and not waste any more time?

I would imagine GA did all they can to keep them around…

Who knows? GA already gave then 2x GA teams. What else do they need?

It will be interesting to see if ECNL gives then 2x teams. If they do I'm sure several ECNL clubs will take notice that have been asking for the same.

Im pretty sure they were given 1 ECNL 1 ECRL.

It has just been quite the year. I’m sure more news coming soon on all of this.

Anonymous wrote:So why would Nationals leave GA if there is a “whole plan” in place for GA?

Do you think their teams were losing players? Do you think they felt the need to Win now and not waste any more time?

I would imagine GA did all they can to keep them around…

Who knows? GA already gave then 2x GA teams. What else do they need?

It will be interesting to see if ECNL gives then 2x teams. If they do I'm sure several ECNL clubs will take notice that have been asking for the same.

Anonymous wrote:There’s a lot happening behind the scenes. I’ll leave this here.

GA has been working and plotting for 4 years.

They can plot all they want but there is no move to be made. The US Soccer thing is not anything. There is no cash on the women's side to do anything. NWSL is more popular than ever and is always 6 months away from shutting down. Now is no different.

DA was beating ECNL. DD was at DA club and this was real. GA is an afterthought to save those DA clubs. It worked. GA is a good platform. And you can be recruited from GA. But ECNL is light years ahead. US Soccer will mean less ont he girls side because what they are looking for is college not a pathway to the pros.

GA has a couple of paths ----- find something that makes them different and compete for clubs with ECNL so that they can become equal or become a second place platform that still works and is effective but is still the second choice.

I agree that 10 years from now things could be different. Just not likely to be different in the next 2-5 years.

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Anonymous wrote:My prediction is that ECNL is coming for the rest of GA

NEFC, Tophat, Lou Fusz, Cincinnati United

Maybe, this is only negative for GA if they don't replace IMO. Record shows they have replaced more than they have lost. If more GA clubs want to abandon ship, I don't see it as an obvious negative, more like clubs prioritizing how they want to be seen in the marketplace. ECNL is synomous with winning at all costs so that you can be seen by college coaches. GA is synomous with development at all costs so that girls can identify best options after HS, even if it means losing some notable clubs that are feeling pressure in their markets to win now. Don't think there is much to this continuos debate: One is bigger and attracts top playes to top teams, the other has a bigger vision for girls soccer as a whole and has some competitive teams. Pick the one that aligns with your values and goals.

I'm not sure how you don't see losing top clubs and just replacing them is not a bad thing? It's not just a numbers game. If the GA wants to remain a player in, let alone relevant in, college recruiting, they need to put a good product on the field which attracts the college coaches. If not, they will slowly fade into a second tier league and join the ranks of the many others out there.

It's not a bad thing, time will tell if its actually a good thing for GA. Grassroots development is how every other country does it and that appears to the direction they want to distinguish themselves with. In the US its the fight for college value and prestige, that is so moronic to soccer people outside of the US. Perception wise with parents GA is already 2nd tier, good thing parents pereceptions don't impact college coaches or socuts at all. Educated soccer consumers know there is room for several leagues. Coaches and scouts know to look beyond ECNL events for players, and they know they will always have to becasue all leagues are flawed in their own way, and team quality vary from year to year even

Perception is reality in this case. GA IS is a 2nd tier league.

Tell me that you're daughter is u13 without telling me she just made an ECNL club and you're excited about it.

The youth soccer landscape changes all the time. Ten years ago girls ECNL was on the ropes against DA. Ten years before that ECNL didn't exist.

My money is on US Soccer creating DA 2.0. The same people are still in charge and I'm sure they aren't happy how DA blew up. The MLS Next model has been proven successful and likely could be implemented with women now that NWSL is taking off.

Also with all the NCAA lawsuit drama going on right now a single verdict could force all kinds of schools to drop women's soccer programs. What would happen to girls ECNL then?

Keep your head in the sand, it's ok. No one will hold it against you. Years from now, things will change. Maybe then GA will be on some same level. Maybe higher level. Maybe not. But making decisions now for something that may or may not happen (and if it does will take years...), is called denial.

So why would Nationals leave GA if there is a “whole plan” in place for GA?

Do you think their teams were losing players? Do you think they felt the need to Win now and not waste any more time?

I would imagine GA did all they can to keep them around…