Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it bad that I'm skeptical about 529s? It seems like the investment options are so limited and the fees can be kind of nuts. I wonder if the tax advantage is worth it.
If all your information about 529s comes from the single weirdo who yells "the fees are high and limited investement choices" on every 529 post, this is what you will believe. If you do even two minutes of googling and realize it's not 2005, you'll realize that one weirdo is not a reliable source.
Fortunately, it doesnt! I just want more control over my investments (and the fees associated with 529s seem a little much when you can buy stocks for free).
Anonymous wrote:Zero. Horrible investment choices, high fees, bad customer service, and lots of rules.
High growth stocks, some funds because one kid is 13 and pay as needed.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the $400k your whole inheritance or is that just the intended (inherited) 529 funds?
If you’re inheriting $400k, I’d be concerned by front loading 529s, you’re effectively gifting your inheritance to your kids. In the event of a divorce, that money is gone to you. Why not just keep the bulk in your separate name? If you don’t commingle the funds, you can always use it for college but it’s yours otherwise if you divorce.
This seems bizarre to me. I would never treat an inheritance like this as though it’s not mine and my husband’s jointly. And it would still be going to the kids’ college fund anyway. What difference does it make? It’s eye opening that some people treat family finances this way, so glad my DH and I don’t.
Check back in if you ever have the misfortune of going through a divorce, and let us know if you still feel this way, assuming you are the person inheriting money from your parents.
Well couples who jointly merge their finances are much less likely to end up divorced. Having a mindset from the start of "we are a couple, and we do things together and for each other" goes a long way towards a healthy relationship. I've been a SAHP for almost 25 years, I manage the finances and have no concerns. It is all equally mine as it is my partners. Because we are a family and have always thought that way (hint: I wouldn't have been a SAHP if my spouse thought "the money they earn is theirs and not the families", then again, I wouldn't' have married someone who thought that way)
If the inheritance was large enough (ie way more than $400K IMO) the persons giving you the inheritance would have set up stipulations thru a trust if they cared about "keeping it in the blood family"---I can see that happening for millions but not for $400K.
$400k is enough to justify a trust. This is either a naive or a self-serving way to look at things, depending on where you're coming from. My friends who divorced or are divorcing in their 40s had joint accounts and expectations that their marriage would last until death. In any case, I think if OP transferred the gifted money directly into a 529 plan for the kids, you'd argue that it is a completed gift and not part of the marital estate if you end up divorcing. In other words, it belongs to the kids rather than either spouse and can't be considered in a later division of assets. I'd briefly run it by an estate planning attorney on this point, but I like the idea and think it's a nice way to pass money to the next generation and relieve pressure for OP and OP's spouse to have to continue saving for college.
529s don't belong to the kids, though -- I guess you could try to argue that in a divorce proceeding, but they have both owners and beneficiaries, and I'm not sure putting the money into a 529 would shield it from divorce proceedings.
I don't think $400,000 is enough to justify a trust, nor did my grandparents when they gave my wife and me that amount several years ago as part of their estate plan. I put it in a joint account, which their lawyer confirmed with me but didn't argue against. If we split up one day, I don't see why my wife shouldn't have a claim on that money, which I did nothing to earn other than pick the right rich grandparents.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it bad that I'm skeptical about 529s? It seems like the investment options are so limited and the fees can be kind of nuts. I wonder if the tax advantage is worth it.
If all your information about 529s comes from the single weirdo who yells "the fees are high and limited investement choices" on every 529 post, this is what you will believe. If you do even two minutes of googling and realize it's not 2005, you'll realize that one weirdo is not a reliable source.
Anonymous wrote:Is it bad that I'm skeptical about 529s? It seems like the investment options are so limited and the fees can be kind of nuts. I wonder if the tax advantage is worth it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the $400k your whole inheritance or is that just the intended (inherited) 529 funds?
If you’re inheriting $400k, I’d be concerned by front loading 529s, you’re effectively gifting your inheritance to your kids. In the event of a divorce, that money is gone to you. Why not just keep the bulk in your separate name? If you don’t commingle the funds, you can always use it for college but it’s yours otherwise if you divorce.
This seems bizarre to me. I would never treat an inheritance like this as though it’s not mine and my husband’s jointly. And it would still be going to the kids’ college fund anyway. What difference does it make? It’s eye opening that some people treat family finances this way, so glad my DH and I don’t.
Check back in if you ever have the misfortune of going through a divorce, and let us know if you still feel this way, assuming you are the person inheriting money from your parents.
Well couples who jointly merge their finances are much less likely to end up divorced. Having a mindset from the start of "we are a couple, and we do things together and for each other" goes a long way towards a healthy relationship. I've been a SAHP for almost 25 years, I manage the finances and have no concerns. It is all equally mine as it is my partners. Because we are a family and have always thought that way (hint: I wouldn't have been a SAHP if my spouse thought "the money they earn is theirs and not the families", then again, I wouldn't' have married someone who thought that way)
If the inheritance was large enough (ie way more than $400K IMO) the persons giving you the inheritance would have set up stipulations thru a trust if they cared about "keeping it in the blood family"---I can see that happening for millions but not for $400K.
$400k is enough to justify a trust. This is either a naive or a self-serving way to look at things, depending on where you're coming from. My friends who divorced or are divorcing in their 40s had joint accounts and expectations that their marriage would last until death. In any case, I think if OP transferred the gifted money directly into a 529 plan for the kids, you'd argue that it is a completed gift and not part of the marital estate if you end up divorcing. In other words, it belongs to the kids rather than either spouse and can't be considered in a later division of assets. I'd briefly run it by an estate planning attorney on this point, but I like the idea and think it's a nice way to pass money to the next generation and relieve pressure for OP and OP's spouse to have to continue saving for college.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the $400k your whole inheritance or is that just the intended (inherited) 529 funds?
If you’re inheriting $400k, I’d be concerned by front loading 529s, you’re effectively gifting your inheritance to your kids. In the event of a divorce, that money is gone to you. Why not just keep the bulk in your separate name? If you don’t commingle the funds, you can always use it for college but it’s yours otherwise if you divorce.
This seems bizarre to me. I would never treat an inheritance like this as though it’s not mine and my husband’s jointly. And it would still be going to the kids’ college fund anyway. What difference does it make? It’s eye opening that some people treat family finances this way, so glad my DH and I don’t.
Check back in if you ever have the misfortune of going through a divorce, and let us know if you still feel this way, assuming you are the person inheriting money from your parents.
Well couples who jointly merge their finances are much less likely to end up divorced. Having a mindset from the start of "we are a couple, and we do things together and for each other" goes a long way towards a healthy relationship. I've been a SAHP for almost 25 years, I manage the finances and have no concerns. It is all equally mine as it is my partners. Because we are a family and have always thought that way (hint: I wouldn't have been a SAHP if my spouse thought "the money they earn is theirs and not the families", then again, I wouldn't' have married someone who thought that way)
If the inheritance was large enough (ie way more than $400K IMO) the persons giving you the inheritance would have set up stipulations thru a trust if they cared about "keeping it in the blood family"---I can see that happening for millions but not for $400K.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP: It will be about $400K, to me as the spouse. We already have 529s started in VA- Invest 529s. Balances are not large, though.
13 y.o- ~$75K
10 y.o.- ~ $30K
7 y.o.~ $20K
Have strong retirement and other savings, but this is where we need to fill in.
I really like this calculator: https://www.savingforcollege.com/calculators/college-savings-calculator
Assuming you want them to go in-state, you need to contribute enough to get the 13 year old's account to $85k, the 10 y/o to $75k, and the 7 y/o to $60k. Put the rest ($305k) into a brokerage and you will have flexibility to help with OOS or private, if that comes up down the line.
Anonymous wrote:What are all you people with 400k for a 10 year old going to do when they go to a cheaper state school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the $400k your whole inheritance or is that just the intended (inherited) 529 funds?
If you’re inheriting $400k, I’d be concerned by front loading 529s, you’re effectively gifting your inheritance to your kids. In the event of a divorce, that money is gone to you. Why not just keep the bulk in your separate name? If you don’t commingle the funds, you can always use it for college but it’s yours otherwise if you divorce.
This seems bizarre to me. I would never treat an inheritance like this as though it’s not mine and my husband’s jointly. And it would still be going to the kids’ college fund anyway. What difference does it make? It’s eye opening that some people treat family finances this way, so glad my DH and I don’t.
Check back in if you ever have the misfortune of going through a divorce, and let us know if you still feel this way, assuming you are the person inheriting money from your parents.
Well couples who jointly merge their finances are much less likely to end up divorced. Having a mindset from the start of "we are a couple, and we do things together and for each other" goes a long way towards a healthy relationship. I've been a SAHP for almost 25 years, I manage the finances and have no concerns. It is all equally mine as it is my partners. Because we are a family and have always thought that way (hint: I wouldn't have been a SAHP if my spouse thought "the money they earn is theirs and not the families", then again, I wouldn't' have married someone who thought that way)
If the inheritance was large enough (ie way more than $400K IMO) the persons giving you the inheritance would have set up stipulations thru a trust if they cared about "keeping it in the blood family"---I can see that happening for millions but not for $400K.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the $400k your whole inheritance or is that just the intended (inherited) 529 funds?
If you’re inheriting $400k, I’d be concerned by front loading 529s, you’re effectively gifting your inheritance to your kids. In the event of a divorce, that money is gone to you. Why not just keep the bulk in your separate name? If you don’t commingle the funds, you can always use it for college but it’s yours otherwise if you divorce.
This seems bizarre to me. I would never treat an inheritance like this as though it’s not mine and my husband’s jointly. And it would still be going to the kids’ college fund anyway. What difference does it make? It’s eye opening that some people treat family finances this way, so glad my DH and I don’t.
Check back in if you ever have the misfortune of going through a divorce, and let us know if you still feel this way, assuming you are the person inheriting money from your parents.
Anonymous wrote:What are all you people with 400k for a 10 year old going to do when they go to a cheaper state school?
Anonymous wrote:What are all you people with 400k for a 10 year old going to do when they go to a cheaper state school?