Anonymous
02/06/2024 08:30
Subject: What are your most right wing and most left wing views?
Anonymous wrote:The premise behind my question is that I don't think most people fall directly into the party line, agreeing with the entire ideological package of one side versus another - but I also don't think that those who lie in the center take the exact middle position on everything. I bet a lot of people are a mishmash of all kinds of different views.
I'm firmly on the left, but my most right wing views are:
Crime - it's a serious issue and I want some no-nonsense law enforcement and better police staffing especially in our cities.
The "border" and immigration - I put "border" in quotes because it's really not the border but illegal overstays. We need a streamline policy to enforce immigration law, not allow visa overstays and zero tolerance on drugs and gangs, we need to do this first and then reform the asylum process, hire more immigration professionals and develop a coherent, humanitarian, but firm approach.
My most leftwing views:
Environment - we need to get serious about reducing emissions and reducing plastic particle pollution. Even if it hurts economically for a time.
I'm also somewhat socialist on basic-needs type things like healthcare and housing.
OP - I agree with you. Apart from culture war oversimplifications. most people don’t fall neatly into one camp or another. Immigration in particular has never conformed to simplistic right left typologies.
Also what counts as left wing here, is often centrist in other rich countries . For example, supporting universal health care.
That said - For me, positions that tend to be most polarizing are:
Left
I support:
1. full reproductive rights for women and girls although I would never get an abortion myself.
2. Universal health care
3. Predictable pathways to legal migration for qualified candidates
4. Student loan forgiveness and subsidization of tertiary education for essential workers such as health care workers, teachers and police
5. Sensible gun controls
6. Livable minimum wage
Right
I support
1. Closed/ tightly controlled borders for illegal immigrants
2. Increased funding for police training and execution
3. Tax breaks for married couples with kids (mainly as an incentive because a lot of research indicates there are many advantages to children growing up in two parent married households)
4. Stronger enforcement cases against drug peddlers (focus on distributors not on petty end users)
5. Tax breaks for small businesses since they employ the largest number of Americans. Universal health care would be a huge help as that is a major cost for small businesses who want competitive hires.
Anonymous
02/06/2024 08:12
Subject: What are your most right wing and most left wing views?
Left wing: abortion should be supported, at all stages of pregnancy. It is a woman’s right.
Right wing: Israel should receive full U.S. support
Women rights have been chipped away by trans rights and that is not ok
Right wing: Israel should receive full U.S. support
Women rights have been chipped away by trans rights and that is not ok
Anonymous
02/06/2024 01:59
Subject: What are your most right wing and most left wing views?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Left wing: we should pay a stipend to encourage citizens to have babies.
Extreme right wing: 1) we should use violent punishments for felons, such as caning. We should have more executions. DeSantis was right when he made pedophilia punishable by death in Florida. 2) we need a return to traditional values. This isn't code for "no gay people" because there should be gay marriage. But we should get back to when we loved America and God, and people felt morally accountable to their families.
The left wing wants to pay a stipend to have more babies? Who is saying that?
They want to subsidize daycare. Etc. Same thing.
That doesn’t seem like the same thing to me. However, in honor of the discussion, my thoughts on this:
Left-wing: Subsidized high quality daycare is important and should be provided extensively.
Right-wing: Surrogacy is exploitative and cruel, and should be banned.
Anonymous
02/05/2024 23:45
Subject: What are your most right wing and most left wing views?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Left wing: we should pay a stipend to encourage citizens to have babies.
Extreme right wing: 1) we should use violent punishments for felons, such as caning. We should have more executions. DeSantis was right when he made pedophilia punishable by death in Florida. 2) we need a return to traditional values. This isn't code for "no gay people" because there should be gay marriage. But we should get back to when we loved America and God, and people felt morally accountable to their families.
The left wing wants to pay a stipend to have more babies? Who is saying that?
They want to subsidize daycare. Etc. Same thing.
Anonymous
02/05/2024 23:39
Subject: What are your most right wing and most left wing views?
Anonymous wrote:Left wing: we should pay a stipend to encourage citizens to have babies.
Extreme right wing: 1) we should use violent punishments for felons, such as caning. We should have more executions. DeSantis was right when he made pedophilia punishable by death in Florida. 2) we need a return to traditional values. This isn't code for "no gay people" because there should be gay marriage. But we should get back to when we loved America and God, and people felt morally accountable to their families.
The left wing wants to pay a stipend to have more babies? Who is saying that?
Anonymous
02/05/2024 23:32
Subject: What are your most right wing and most left wing views?
Left wing: we should pay a stipend to encourage citizens to have babies.
Extreme right wing: 1) we should use violent punishments for felons, such as caning. We should have more executions. DeSantis was right when he made pedophilia punishable by death in Florida. 2) we need a return to traditional values. This isn't code for "no gay people" because there should be gay marriage. But we should get back to when we loved America and God, and people felt morally accountable to their families.
Extreme right wing: 1) we should use violent punishments for felons, such as caning. We should have more executions. DeSantis was right when he made pedophilia punishable by death in Florida. 2) we need a return to traditional values. This isn't code for "no gay people" because there should be gay marriage. But we should get back to when we loved America and God, and people felt morally accountable to their families.
Anonymous
02/05/2024 23:19
Subject: What are your most right wing and most left wing views?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Left:
Absolute abortion rights. Single issue voter on this issue.
National paid family leave and free preK which will actually address the root cause of our falling birth rates.
Very skeptical of our relationship with Israel
Right:
Women-only spaces must be allowed to exist and the experience of biological women and girls shouldn’t be supplanted by the experience of trans women, which is valid in itself but is not (and cannot be) the same.
More women in science and research needs to be a national priority as well. It’s amazing how trans can change their genders but childbirth isn’t easier than it was in the Stone Ages. Scientists are now trying to create male uteruses with fetus transplants and womb transplants . Men always come first in science..
I guess the side effect of money going to male uteruses is maybe funding agencies will actually care about childbirth now. Lord knows it’s not an interest when it only involves females and their health issues.
Seriously?
Infection related to childbirth couldn't even be treated until the 1930s when sulfa drugs came into use. Maternal mortality rate was somewhere between 1/100 and 1/200. A millennium earlier, archeological digs in one area of England found the average age of death for women was 33, with the neonatal mortality rate for mother AND child somewhere between 30% and 70%.
So your point is that since we are better off than England in the 1030, everything is fine? My standards are higher.
Anonymous
02/05/2024 22:15
Subject: Re:What are your most right wing and most left wing views?
Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm with you on crime and the border. I'm a lifelong Democrat and I think the party is absolutely insane on these issues. I actually 95% agree with Trump and the Republicans on the border (although I also believe that they're not that interested in coming up with a constructive solution, since it's a good issue to weaponize). Asylum is a complete joke and needs to be tightened to the point that 99% of the people currently claiming asylum can no longer use it as a backdoor.
My most left wing views:
Abortion should be legal up to the point of birth everywhere in the country. I am okay with having a federal law that requires a medical reason/doctor sign-off after the beginning of the third trimester, but that's the only limitation I think is reasonable. It doesn't happen on an elective basis after that point anyway. [Abortion is the reason I will never ever vote R. I'm a single issue voter on this.]
We need to cease funding, supporting, and enabling Israel as a bedrock principle of foreign policy. We definitely should call for a ceasefire and stop supplying military aid to Israel right now. I would prefer to just cut off our support entirely, but at minimum we need to authorize aid/military support separately and on a one-off basis as needed and debated in Congress each time.
Church and state should be completely, totally separated. There should be no accommodations for religion in the public/governmental sphere. I would like us to adopt the French model of separation.
Does that mean we would get these holidays the French do: Easter Monday, Ascension Day, Whit Monday, Feast of the Assumption, and All Saints Day?
Anonymous
02/05/2024 22:00
Subject: What are your most right wing and most left wing views?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Left:
Absolute abortion rights. Single issue voter on this issue.
National paid family leave and free preK which will actually address the root cause of our falling birth rates.
Very skeptical of our relationship with Israel
Right:
Women-only spaces must be allowed to exist and the experience of biological women and girls shouldn’t be supplanted by the experience of trans women, which is valid in itself but is not (and cannot be) the same.
More women in science and research needs to be a national priority as well. It’s amazing how trans can change their genders but childbirth isn’t easier than it was in the Stone Ages. Scientists are now trying to create male uteruses with fetus transplants and womb transplants . Men always come first in science..
I guess the side effect of money going to male uteruses is maybe funding agencies will actually care about childbirth now. Lord knows it’s not an interest when it only involves females and their health issues.
Seriously?
Infection related to childbirth couldn't even be treated until the 1930s when sulfa drugs came into use. Maternal mortality rate was somewhere between 1/100 and 1/200. A millennium earlier, archeological digs in one area of England found the average age of death for women was 33, with the neonatal mortality rate for mother AND child somewhere between 30% and 70%.
Anonymous
02/05/2024 21:05
Subject: What are your most right wing and most left wing views?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Left:
Absolute abortion rights. Single issue voter on this issue.
National paid family leave and free preK which will actually address the root cause of our falling birth rates.
Very skeptical of our relationship with Israel
Right:
Women-only spaces must be allowed to exist and the experience of biological women and girls shouldn’t be supplanted by the experience of trans women, which is valid in itself but is not (and cannot be) the same.
More women in science and research needs to be a national priority as well. It’s amazing how trans can change their genders but childbirth isn’t easier than it was in the Stone Ages. Scientists are now trying to create male uteruses with fetus transplants and womb transplants . Men always come first in science..
I guess the side effect of money going to male uteruses is maybe funding agencies will actually care about childbirth now. Lord knows it’s not an interest when it only involves females and their health issues.
Anonymous
02/05/2024 20:24
Subject: Re:What are your most right wing and most left wing views?
Anonymous
02/05/2024 20:16
Subject: What are your most right wing and most left wing views?
Anonymous wrote:Left:
Absolute abortion rights. Single issue voter on this issue.
National paid family leave and free preK which will actually address the root cause of our falling birth rates.
Very skeptical of our relationship with Israel
Right:
Women-only spaces must be allowed to exist and the experience of biological women and girls shouldn’t be supplanted by the experience of trans women, which is valid in itself but is not (and cannot be) the same.
More women in science and research needs to be a national priority as well. It’s amazing how trans can change their genders but childbirth isn’t easier than it was in the Stone Ages. Scientists are now trying to create male uteruses with fetus transplants and womb transplants . Men always come first in science..
Anonymous
02/05/2024 19:46
Subject: What are your most right wing and most left wing views?
Left:
Absolute abortion rights. Single issue voter on this issue.
National paid family leave and free preK which will actually address the root cause of our falling birth rates.
Very skeptical of our relationship with Israel
Right:
Women-only spaces must be allowed to exist and the experience of biological women and girls shouldn’t be supplanted by the experience of trans women, which is valid in itself but is not (and cannot be) the same.
Absolute abortion rights. Single issue voter on this issue.
National paid family leave and free preK which will actually address the root cause of our falling birth rates.
Very skeptical of our relationship with Israel
Right:
Women-only spaces must be allowed to exist and the experience of biological women and girls shouldn’t be supplanted by the experience of trans women, which is valid in itself but is not (and cannot be) the same.
Anonymous
02/05/2024 18:45
Subject: What are your most right wing and most left wing views?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A few of you have mentioned a strong military as a far right belief. When has the left advocated for weakening the military?
The left is usually better about taking care of our soldiers. The right is generally less concerned about spending gobs of money on military contractors.
Well, that’s a take, I suppose.
Anonymous
02/05/2024 17:40
Subject: What are your most right wing and most left wing views?
Anonymous wrote:A few of you have mentioned a strong military as a far right belief. When has the left advocated for weakening the military?
The left is usually better about taking care of our soldiers. The right is generally less concerned about spending gobs of money on military contractors.