Anonymous wrote:UVA is a smaller school. If your child goes to VT, they are competing against a lot more CS students. I’d take the UVA route personally.

Yes, UVA is smaller, but it isn't exactly Princeton-sized. It is close to 18,000 undergraduates.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is a smaller school. If your child goes to VT, they are competing against a lot more CS students. I’d take the UVA route personally.

Yes, but you will be paying $10K/year more at UVA for the same degree.

The same degree, not the same experience, and not the same network. Dive into what that 10,000 extra brings. I’m sure you can easily find the difference if you explore both school tours.

Except that UVA doesn't have better experience or alumni network. My kids tours both schools. All three of them liked VT much better. None attending either though as they wanted to get out of VA.

You also have to consider changing major? Also what if the kids don't get into CS at VT as it might be more competition due to more students enrolled in VT than UVA.

Anonymous wrote:UVA is a smaller school. If your child goes to VT, they are competing against a lot more CS students. I’d take the UVA route personally.

This is a good insight about school size. Go with whichever school is the best fit for your DC. I would have drowned at a large school, but I thrived at a smaller one. However, some students are the opposite from me. Those students really would be happier and better off at a large school. Best school fit would be a good way to decide. Both of these are good from a hiring perspective. Both are good for grad school admissions. CS rankings are mostly meaningless, so are not a great way to decide.

Anonymous wrote:UVA is a smaller school. If your child goes to VT, they are competing against a lot more CS students. I’d take the UVA route personally.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is a smaller school. If your child goes to VT, they are competing against a lot more CS students. I’d take the UVA route personally.

Yes, but you will be paying $10K/year more at UVA for the same degree.

The same degree, not the same experience, and not the same network. Dive into what that 10,000 extra brings. I’m sure you can easily find the difference if you explore both school tours.

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Anonymous wrote:UMD is ranked highest in CS if that matters to you. Your kid will get a fine job from any of these places. If your kid wants to pursue academia, then I would choose UMD.

This is OP. Yes, add UMD for CS to the mix. Merit received at UMD. DC is pretty easy going and could be happy at any of the schools. Not sure DC wants academia.

Stats with APs taken?

Anonymous wrote:UVA is a smaller school. If your child goes to VT, they are competing against a lot more CS students. I’d take the UVA route personally.

Yes, but you will be paying $10K/year more at UVA for the same degree.

UVA is a smaller school. If your child goes to VT, they are competing against a lot more CS students. I’d take the UVA route personally.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA because most kids change their major, and UVA has a better reputation nationally overall.

Actually, VT is known at tech companies for their CS and Engineering degrees. And really out of state, there is no "UVA prestige" over VT. It’s about major, GPA, internships and recommendations.

Not nationally. No one cares about VT outside of VA.

LOL no one cares UVA either outside of VA.

Actually, a lot do. It's no. 5 in the nation for public universities. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public. And it's no 24 for best in the nation overall

Yep It will be in the T20 very shortly. People are turning away from paying $85-90k/year for tuition to privates. And we will hit $100k/year soon. More and more are turning to state flagships. Add in all the horrible press at the Ivies over Jewish genocide and overly snowflake whiny agendas instead of preparing competent leaders and even the largest traditional donors are turning their backs on those T10s. My son has gotten into UVA and am Ivy and we will get zero aid. Reading the tea leaves makes the $370k Ivy vs $140k state school with ROI calculators showing the same return an obvious choice. Not only that many big companies are saying they will not hire from ivies anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA because most kids change their major, and UVA has a better reputation nationally overall.

Actually, VT is known at tech companies for their CS and Engineering degrees. And really out of state, there is no "UVA prestige" over VT. It’s about major, GPA, internships and recommendations.

Not nationally. No one cares about VT outside of VA.

LOL no one cares UVA either outside of VA.

Actually, a lot do. It's no. 5 in the nation for public universities. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public. And it's no 24 for best in the nation overall

Yep It will be in the T20 very shortly. People are turning away from paying $85-90k/year for tuition to privates. And we will hit $100k/year soon. More and more are turning to state flagships. Add in all the horrible press at the Ivies over Jewish genocide and overly snowflake whiny agendas instead of preparing competent leaders and even the largest traditional donors are turning their backs on those T10s. My son has gotten into UVA and am Ivy and we will get zero aid. Reading the tea leaves makes the $370k Ivy vs $140k state school with ROI calculators showing the same return an obvious choice. Not only that many big companies are saying they will not hire from ivies anymore.

UVA is very expensive for a public, probably the most expensive?

OOS is similar to private schools.

My kid chose private with some merit over UVA instate.

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VT for CS, hands down.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA because most kids change their major, and UVA has a better reputation nationally overall.

Actually, VT is known at tech companies for their CS and Engineering degrees. And really out of state, there is no "UVA prestige" over VT. It’s about major, GPA, internships and recommendations.

Not nationally. No one cares about VT outside of VA.

LOL no one cares UVA either outside of VA.

Actually, a lot do. It's no. 5 in the nation for public universities. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public. And it's no 24 for best in the nation overall

Yep It will be in the T20 very shortly. People are turning away from paying $85-90k/year for tuition to privates. And we will hit $100k/year soon. More and more are turning to state flagships. Add in all the horrible press at the Ivies over Jewish genocide and overly snowflake whiny agendas instead of preparing competent leaders and even the largest traditional donors are turning their backs on those T10s. My son has gotten into UVA and am Ivy and we will get zero aid. Reading the tea leaves makes the $370k Ivy vs $140k state school with ROI calculators showing the same return an obvious choice. Not only that many big companies are saying they will not hire from ivies anymore.

UVA is very expensive for a public, probably the most expensive?

OOS is similar to private schools.

My kid chose private with some merit over UVA instate.

I’m saying kids are going to publics because T20+ aren’t going to get as many applicants when the population cliff comes in a few years and people can’t afford $90k+/year. Public universities will start outpacing the old guard.

PP here…

USNWR 2024 ranks for ungrad cs:

Top 110 CS Programs:

#1:

Massachusetts Institute of Technology
#2:

Carnegie Mellon University
Stanford University
University of California, Berkeley
#5:

University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
#6:

California Institute of Technology
Cornell University
Georgia Institute of Technology
Princeton University
#10:

University of Washington
#11:

Harvard University
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
University of Texas at Austin
#14:

Columbia University
University of California, Los Angeles
University of California, San Diego
Yale University
#18:

Johns Hopkins University
Purdue University, West Lafayette
University of Maryland, College Park
University of Pennsylvania
#22:

University of Wisconsin, Madison
#23:

Brown University
Duke University
University of Chicago
University of Southern California
#27:

Harvey Mudd College
Northwestern University
University of California, Davis
University of California, Irvine
University of California, Santa Barbara
Virginia Tech
#33:

Ohio State University, Columbus
Rice University
Texas A&M University
University of Colorado Boulder
University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
University of Virginia

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Anonymous wrote:USNWR ranks VT higher for CS. UVA has more prestige. Which would you pick?

What are you looking at.
Both links have UVA higher in CS.

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-science-schools/computer-science-rankings


https://csrankings.org/#/fromyear/2023/toyear/2024/index?all&us

The USNWR link is for grad schools. There is a separate USNWR ranking for undergraduate CS

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Anonymous wrote:UVA because most kids change their major, and UVA has a better reputation nationally overall.

Actually, VT is known at tech companies for their CS and Engineering degrees. And really out of state, there is no "UVA prestige" over VT. It’s about major, GPA, internships and recommendations.

Not nationally. No one cares about VT outside of VA.

LOL no one cares UVA either outside of VA.

Actually, a lot do. It's no. 5 in the nation for public universities. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public. And it's no 24 for best in the nation overall

Yep It will be in the T20 very shortly. People are turning away from paying $85-90k/year for tuition to privates. And we will hit $100k/year soon. More and more are turning to state flagships. Add in all the horrible press at the Ivies over Jewish genocide and overly snowflake whiny agendas instead of preparing competent leaders and even the largest traditional donors are turning their backs on those T10s. My son has gotten into UVA and am Ivy and we will get zero aid. Reading the tea leaves makes the $370k Ivy vs $140k state school with ROI calculators showing the same return an obvious choice. Not only that many big companies are saying they will not hire from ivies anymore.

UVA is very expensive for a public, probably the most expensive?

OOS is similar to private schools.

My kid chose private with some merit over UVA instate.