Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Public school will be easier to maintain a high GPA-and with Top 20 colleges currently obsessed with DEI, less and less private school kids are going to get their spots. One exception might be the SLAC’s-they still want and need the full pay private school kids. So, kind of depends what you are hoping for for college.

I think this is true, and it's what parents don't understand. Sending your kid to SFS yields zero advantage in college admissions nowadays. Schools don't like that the school oozes privilege and want more kids from disadvantaged backgrounds. Your kid will also likely struggle to stand out in a school filled with Ivy-obsessed overachievers with private tutors.

If your goal is simply college, then send them to the easiest and least-competitive high school. Being in the top 2% of Dunbar will yield much better results than the top 25% of SFS. Yes, SFS is much more rigorous, but college admissions cares only about DEI and sob stories now, and they consider rich prep school kids to be "oppressors" that they want to keep out.

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Wishful thinking! Highly selective colleges, in this country, are businesses. They have always coveted privileged students…and they always will.
Don’t pay attention to what these colleges say, pay attention to what they do (and the wealth of their student body).

https://www.thedartmouth.com/article/2022/10/cradle-to-cap-and-gown-the-prep-school-to-ivy-pipeline

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/07/24/upshot/ivy-league-elite-college-admissions.html

The kids getting into elite colleges from these prep schools are overwhelmingly athletes, legacies, and top of the class. These are students that could've gotten in from anywhere. When people ask "Will SFS help my kid in admissions?" they're asking if an above-average SFS kid has a better shot at a T10, because of the SFS pedigree.

The answer is just "no." Schools place a cap on how many students they're willing to admit from an individual high school. Even Harvard-Westlake, Exeter, and Andover understand this. This means that only the best-of-the-best students and those with hooks get into the most coveted schools. Everyone else usually ends up a level or so below.

If you're unhooked, it is far better to be in the top 5% of a mediocre public school than in the top 40% of SFS.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Public school will be easier to maintain a high GPA-and with Top 20 colleges currently obsessed with DEI, less and less private school kids are going to get their spots. One exception might be the SLAC’s-they still want and need the full pay private school kids. So, kind of depends what you are hoping for for college.

I think this is true, and it's what parents don't understand. Sending your kid to SFS yields zero advantage in college admissions nowadays. Schools don't like that the school oozes privilege and want more kids from disadvantaged backgrounds. Your kid will also likely struggle to stand out in a school filled with Ivy-obsessed overachievers with private tutors.

If your goal is simply college, then send them to the easiest and least-competitive high school. Being in the top 2% of Dunbar will yield much better results than the top 25% of SFS. Yes, SFS is much more rigorous, but college admissions cares only about DEI and sob stories now, and they consider rich prep school kids to be "oppressors" that they want to keep out.

😝
Wishful thinking! Highly selective colleges, in this country, are businesses. They have always coveted privileged students…and they always will.
Don’t pay attention to what these colleges say, pay attention to what they do (and the wealth of their student body).

https://www.thedartmouth.com/article/2022/10/cradle-to-cap-and-gown-the-prep-school-to-ivy-pipeline

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/07/24/upshot/ivy-league-elite-college-admissions.html

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You must whip it

Anonymous wrote:Public school will be easier to maintain a high GPA-and with Top 20 colleges currently obsessed with DEI, less and less private school kids are going to get their spots. One exception might be the SLAC’s-they still want and need the full pay private school kids. So, kind of depends what you are hoping for for college.

I think this is true, and it's what parents don't understand. Sending your kid to SFS yields zero advantage in college admissions nowadays. Schools don't like that the school oozes privilege and want more kids from disadvantaged backgrounds. Your kid will also likely struggle to stand out in a school filled with Ivy-obsessed overachievers with private tutors.

If your goal is simply college, then send them to the easiest and least-competitive high school. Being in the top 2% of Dunbar will yield much better results than the top 25% of SFS. Yes, SFS is much more rigorous, but college admissions cares only about DEI and sob stories now, and they consider rich prep school kids to be "oppressors" that they want to keep out.

Does anyone know of SFS sends Colleges end of year or semester grades too on transcripts?

Anonymous wrote:Does a High School GPA include art classes?

Yes, but many schools recalculate GPA and omit those classes.

Does a High School GPA include art classes?

Anonymous wrote:What GPA number range is an A-?

Should be 90-92

Anonymous wrote:For example, if a 3.3 is a B+ and a 3.7 is an A- what is a 3.66 or 3.68 for example

It's between a B+ and A-. Do you want us to make up a new letter grade? An A-- or B++ or A-/B+?

For example, if a 3.3 is a B+ and a 3.7 is an A- what is a 3.66 or 3.68 for example

What GPA number range is an A-?

I think you could have a 4.0 at SFS with perfect SATs and there's still no guarantee of getting into a top school. No guarantees these days. Kids should do their best and apply to a range of schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow -- things have changed. When my kid graduated from SFS not that long ago, the average GPA was 3.2. I know it has come up in recent years. I still believe college admissions are not all about GPA there. If you are taking good classes, have an A- average, have a top ACT/SAT score (as most SFS kids do), and have some extras, you can compete for the top schools. Doesn't mean you'll get in, but you're competitive.

Grade inflation.

There has been some grade inflation in the last 3 classes in most schools due to covid. Class of 2025 will probably be a reset.

What GPA number range is an A-?