Anonymous
Post 01/25/2024 13:20     Subject: How much would you pay to be normal weight?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It depends, can I pay this and stay this weight forever and not have to worry about what I eat and how it affects my health? I'd pay all my money for that! But if I have to pay 6 figures to be that weight, and then maintain that weight on my own, I'm not doing it. I wish I were 110 pounds but I don't want to eat like a 110 pound person.


I weigh 112. Here is what I eat in a day:

Breakfast:
Coffee with whole milk
Weekdays - Oatmeal with honey, butter, and salt
Weekend - Saturday and sunday have family breakfast with extended family that usually consists of homemade pancakes or waffles, bacon, eggs, fruit, roasted potatoes...usually on these days I end up having a really light lunch such a cup of homemade veggie soup because breakfast starts later than usual and I eat way more than usual and I'm not hungry for a robust lunch.

Lunch - Salad with lettuce, herbs, various veggies (onions, carrots, radishes etc) and topping like pumpkin seeds, goat cheese or feta cheese and then some kind of protein on the side - whatever I had for dinner the night before so could be salmon, chicken, or if no leftovers for the protein I'll have prosciutto, smoked salmon, paneer, or chickpeas.

Dinner - A protein with roasted veggies, so for example a steak with a side of roasted brussels sprouts/sauteed asparagus or some kind of bowl (the other night I had roasted sweet potatoes, sauteed onions and mushrooms, roasted red pepper and brussels sprouts over a bed of arugula with feta cheese and a balsamic vinegar drizzle, or taco night with all the fixings you would expect.

Snacks/desserts etc - Usually have ice cream once a week, definitely indulge in some chocolates or cookies fairly often, and enjoy a few glasses of wine probably 3 - 4 nights a week. A couple days a week I get a starbucks latte, but don't indulge in all these on the same day. So for example if I'm having a latte in the afternoon I likely will not have wine with dinner or have a bowl of ice cream. If I know I want wine with my dinner I won't have a latte or ice cream but likely will have some chocolates.

I'm going to be honest - I feel full at the end of my meals and while I am a normal amount of hungry by the time mealtime rolls around I'm certainly not hungry all day long. I guess your mileage may vary.


This is depressing. I’m 150 lbs after much hard work, and cookies, ice cream, lattes, and wine are a rare indulgence. The sad truth is when you’re losing weight, you need to eat anywhere from 25-35% less to maintain the same weight as someone who is naturally there. For a fat person to be 115 lbs, it would probably be all salads and lean protein if they’re not going to feel hungry all the time.


I'm sorry, I don't mean for it to be depressing. I just take issue with the idea that if one is around 110 one must not eat, or diet is sad etc.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2024 14:54     Subject: Re:How much would you pay to be normal weight?

$300/month, since that is what I am going to pay when I start Ozempic next month. I can't wait!
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2024 09:16     Subject: How much would you pay to be normal weight?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It depends, can I pay this and stay this weight forever and not have to worry about what I eat and how it affects my health? I'd pay all my money for that! But if I have to pay 6 figures to be that weight, and then maintain that weight on my own, I'm not doing it. I wish I were 110 pounds but I don't want to eat like a 110 pound person.


I weigh 112. Here is what I eat in a day:

Breakfast:
Coffee with whole milk
Weekdays - Oatmeal with honey, butter, and salt
Weekend - Saturday and sunday have family breakfast with extended family that usually consists of homemade pancakes or waffles, bacon, eggs, fruit, roasted potatoes...usually on these days I end up having a really light lunch such a cup of homemade veggie soup because breakfast starts later than usual and I eat way more than usual and I'm not hungry for a robust lunch.

Lunch - Salad with lettuce, herbs, various veggies (onions, carrots, radishes etc) and topping like pumpkin seeds, goat cheese or feta cheese and then some kind of protein on the side - whatever I had for dinner the night before so could be salmon, chicken, or if no leftovers for the protein I'll have prosciutto, smoked salmon, paneer, or chickpeas.

Dinner - A protein with roasted veggies, so for example a steak with a side of roasted brussels sprouts/sauteed asparagus or some kind of bowl (the other night I had roasted sweet potatoes, sauteed onions and mushrooms, roasted red pepper and brussels sprouts over a bed of arugula with feta cheese and a balsamic vinegar drizzle, or taco night with all the fixings you would expect.

Snacks/desserts etc - Usually have ice cream once a week, definitely indulge in some chocolates or cookies fairly often, and enjoy a few glasses of wine probably 3 - 4 nights a week. A couple days a week I get a starbucks latte, but don't indulge in all these on the same day. So for example if I'm having a latte in the afternoon I likely will not have wine with dinner or have a bowl of ice cream. If I know I want wine with my dinner I won't have a latte or ice cream but likely will have some chocolates.

I'm going to be honest - I feel full at the end of my meals and while I am a normal amount of hungry by the time mealtime rolls around I'm certainly not hungry all day long. I guess your mileage may vary.


This is depressing. I’m 150 lbs after much hard work, and cookies, ice cream, lattes, and wine are a rare indulgence. The sad truth is when you’re losing weight, you need to eat anywhere from 25-35% less to maintain the same weight as someone who is naturally there. For a fat person to be 115 lbs, it would probably be all salads and lean protein if they’re not going to feel hungry all the time.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2024 11:30     Subject: How much would you pay to be normal weight?

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Anonymous wrote:Just eat less, and move more. Now give me $1 million dollars for this advice.


If it were this easy everyone would be thin.


They can do it. They just have to tolerate the feeling of being hungry.

IMO intermittent fasting is a great option for this. You just have to decide to not eat at all during that period of time (maybe 7pm until noon the next day.)


It's not just about physical hunger. I have a tendency to binge when stressed and in that time no rational thought stops me. It has resulted in painful yoyo dieting and self hatred because I can't do it for the long run, hate myself, deprive, stress, binge, and repeat.


Honest question: have you sought treatment for the mental health condition underlying this behavior?


DP - honest question - are you like this in real life?

Having experienced how Mounjaro improved/eliminated my food compulsions, I wonder if, in the future, these medications might be prescribed for people experiencing periods of significant and prolonged stress to prevent stress eating. Studies have suggested that chronic stress triggers changes in the body that not only increase appetite for unhealthy foods but may also cause increased weight gain when compared to non-stressed people eating the same diet. So yes, managing stress, eating healthfully, and moving are all parts of the equation, but chronic stress makes it infinitely more difficult to keep everything in balance.

Do you tell your depressed or anxious friends that they should stop taking prescribed medications and use a therapy-only approach to manage these issues?


PP didn't tell the person to stop taking prescribed medications? They just asked whether the poster is seeking therapy for what sounds like a true mental health condition.


+1. PP shouldn't feel guilty for asking if someone was in therapy. binge eating and yo-yo dieting are mental health related issues and can be addressed with therapy. No one said anything about medications in that exchange.


Often a lot of these behaviors are related to hormonal imbalance (leptin, gherlin, cortisol, estrogen, etc.). A therapist isn't going to fix that.


There are many on DCUM who don't believe this.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2024 11:17     Subject: How much would you pay to be normal weight?

Anonymous wrote:I have paid for everything - diets, fat camps, and now Ozempic out of pocket.

Fat camp and Ozempic were both worth it. There's a lot of stuff I don't buy and I care zero if people think it's extravagant.

$600/month sounds like a lot if you live in a tiny bubble and you think everyone should make roughly the same and spend roughly the same on everything, and you see any aberration as a threat to your DCUM suburban hegemony.

But actually most of us on this board could move things around to prioritize this over other discretionary expenditures and I don't give people a hard time for having a Volvo instead of a Toyota so any one with an opinion about paying for semaglutide can f right off.


Hear hear!
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2024 09:31     Subject: How much would you pay to be normal weight?

Clearly under 1300/month as I refuse to pay for monjaro that my insurance won't cover.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2024 09:28     Subject: Re:How much would you pay to be normal weight?

Anonymous wrote:Semaglutide has given this to me. I'm lucky that my insurance is covering it (for now) but I've already decided that if I ever lose coverage, I'll continue to pay out of pocket. So that is $15k, and I'd probably go up from there if I had to.


I should clarify, $15k per year. So over the course of my lifetime.... over half a million dollars. Hopefully I don't end up actually having to pay that.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2024 09:28     Subject: Re:How much would you pay to be normal weight?

Semaglutide has given this to me. I'm lucky that my insurance is covering it (for now) but I've already decided that if I ever lose coverage, I'll continue to pay out of pocket. So that is $15k, and I'd probably go up from there if I had to.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2024 09:17     Subject: Re:How much would you pay to be normal weight?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would pay all the money I have seen and will ever see in this lifetime and the next for people to stop judging bodies, their own or others, by shape or appearance.

Every damn penny.

There is no such thing as a "normal" weight, BMI is a BS metric (citation: its creators), and health and size aren't correlated the way our stupid society thinks. We've been sold this garbage picture of what wellness looks like, and it wastes a horrific amount of time, money, energy, and resources.

Kill it with fire and throw it in the sea and you'll have every cent I ever did or will, from this lifetime and any others I may be part of.


I am done fighting diet culture. I won't change society, and I am tired of fighting judgment and being treated with less respect due to being a chubby woman. At this point being thinner is the solution for me, not to mention the health benefits.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2024 08:52     Subject: How much would you pay to be normal weight?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Right now I’m paying about 500 calories a day and literally logging everything I eat. I’m not eating much in the way of carbs for dinner and doing a post dinner workout so that my body can’t store the carbs as fat at night. I’ve got about 8lbs to go to hit my goal. I’m really happy with the way I look at my goal weight - like I actually enjoy seeing myself in the mirror.


when you say post dinner workout, how close to after dinner are you working out?


Maybe a half hour after. Its usually long enough that my stomach won’t get upset but not so long that I lose my motivation or my body goes into evening mode.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2024 08:33     Subject: Re:How much would you pay to be normal weight?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would pay all the money I have seen and will ever see in this lifetime and the next for people to stop judging bodies, their own or others, by shape or appearance.

Every damn penny.

There is no such thing as a "normal" weight, BMI is a BS metric (citation: its creators), and health and size aren't correlated the way our stupid society thinks. We've been sold this garbage picture of what wellness looks like, and it wastes a horrific amount of time, money, energy, and resources.

Kill it with fire and throw it in the sea and you'll have every cent I ever did or will, from this lifetime and any others I may be part of.


It isn’t BS. While there is no cut and dry exact “heathy weight” there is a point in which excess weight hinders the ability to move your body and affects your organs and hormones. That is fact


This is the answer. The vast majority of Americans are not edge cases. If the CDC numbers are to be believed Americans are wildly overweight and metabolically unhealthy.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2024 08:27     Subject: Re:How much would you pay to be normal weight?

Anonymous wrote:I would pay all the money I have seen and will ever see in this lifetime and the next for people to stop judging bodies, their own or others, by shape or appearance.

Every damn penny.

There is no such thing as a "normal" weight, BMI is a BS metric (citation: its creators), and health and size aren't correlated the way our stupid society thinks. We've been sold this garbage picture of what wellness looks like, and it wastes a horrific amount of time, money, energy, and resources.

Kill it with fire and throw it in the sea and you'll have every cent I ever did or will, from this lifetime and any others I may be part of.


It isn’t BS. While there is no cut and dry exact “heathy weight” there is a point in which excess weight hinders the ability to move your body and affects your organs and hormones. That is fact
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 22:13     Subject: Re:How much would you pay to be normal weight?

I would pay all the money I have seen and will ever see in this lifetime and the next for people to stop judging bodies, their own or others, by shape or appearance.

Every damn penny.

There is no such thing as a "normal" weight, BMI is a BS metric (citation: its creators), and health and size aren't correlated the way our stupid society thinks. We've been sold this garbage picture of what wellness looks like, and it wastes a horrific amount of time, money, energy, and resources.

Kill it with fire and throw it in the sea and you'll have every cent I ever did or will, from this lifetime and any others I may be part of.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 22:12     Subject: How much would you pay to be normal weight?

Anonymous wrote:Right now I’m paying about 500 calories a day and literally logging everything I eat. I’m not eating much in the way of carbs for dinner and doing a post dinner workout so that my body can’t store the carbs as fat at night. I’ve got about 8lbs to go to hit my goal. I’m really happy with the way I look at my goal weight - like I actually enjoy seeing myself in the mirror.


when you say post dinner workout, how close to after dinner are you working out?