Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 20:52     Subject: Makeup school day?

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Anonymous wrote:May 14 is the Maryland primary election. Wouldn’t June 14 make the most sense?


No, as has been discussed at length, days tacked on to the very end of the year end up being useless. We've got other make-ups in the calendar. This really shouldn't be so complicated. Use the first make-up day that's available to preserve the others for the additional days that will be needed.


That’s your opinion, but I personally think June 14 is a useful and better option in that it will upset/disrupt fewer people. No one has a one day camp starting that day. It doesn’t ignite a religious debate. It could have easily been the last day of school in the first place. I would even keep 6/13 as a half day, do 6/14 as a half day to give teachers time to wrap everything up and close out.


Except it does excite a religious debate. If 6/14 is selected for instruction, teachers’ last work day becomes 6/17. This is Eid Al-Adha. So teachers will not be able then to celebrate either Eid (since they are blocked on the first one by planning and grading).


Further emphasizing the absurdity of attempting to accomodate religious holidays.



The absurdity of making it possible to have religious practice without significant hurdles... right.


What happened to separation of church and state. Go to religious school if you need the religious holidays.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 18:36     Subject: Makeup school day?

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Anonymous wrote:Jan 29 is way too soon.
And finalizing end of semester grades + report cards takes several hours of teacher time.
When will all that get done if it becomes a full school day. Teachers also have state mandated SLOs to submit along with IEP quarterly reports. They also need to create Canvas courses for semester 2.

It doesn’t need to be a full day. It could be a half day and give kids a last chance to make up work. It they’d already announced it, teachers could have adjusted (already had to crunch end of quarter assignments.)

Personally I wish MCPS would announce makeup days the same day it has the extra closure. That would give enough warning for people to react.


At some point, enough is enough and there needs to be a cut off for work. Kids need to get it in on time or ask for an extension and not wait weeks to turn it in. This is part of the problem of why kids are struggling.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 17:29     Subject: Makeup school day?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jan 29 is way too soon.
And finalizing end of semester grades + report cards takes several hours of teacher time.
When will all that get done if it becomes a full school day. Teachers also have state mandated SLOs to submit along with IEP quarterly reports. They also need to create Canvas courses for semester 2.

It doesn’t need to be a full day. It could be a half day and give kids a last chance to make up work. It they’d already announced it, teachers could have adjusted (already had to crunch end of quarter assignments.)

Personally I wish MCPS would announce makeup days the same day it has the extra closure. That would give enough warning for people to react.


A half day is a ridiculous loophole. A half day completely screws up special education services scheduled for that day.

We can do a full day, and we should do a full day.


No it doesn’t. lol if you think sped services are regular in the first place. There’s a shortage if you’ve been paying any attention at all. Clearly, you haven’t but you love to speak about things you don’t know about. Stop posting.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 16:55     Subject: Makeup school day?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jan 29 is way too soon.
And finalizing end of semester grades + report cards takes several hours of teacher time.
When will all that get done if it becomes a full school day. Teachers also have state mandated SLOs to submit along with IEP quarterly reports. They also need to create Canvas courses for semester 2.

It doesn’t need to be a full day. It could be a half day and give kids a last chance to make up work. It they’d already announced it, teachers could have adjusted (already had to crunch end of quarter assignments.)

Personally I wish MCPS would announce makeup days the same day it has the extra closure. That would give enough warning for people to react.


A half day is a ridiculous loophole. A half day completely screws up special education services scheduled for that day.

We can do a full day, and we should do a full day.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 16:52     Subject: Makeup school day?

Anonymous wrote:Jan 29 is way too soon.
And finalizing end of semester grades + report cards takes several hours of teacher time.
When will all that get done if it becomes a full school day. Teachers also have state mandated SLOs to submit along with IEP quarterly reports. They also need to create Canvas courses for semester 2.

It doesn’t need to be a full day. It could be a half day and give kids a last chance to make up work. It they’d already announced it, teachers could have adjusted (already had to crunch end of quarter assignments.)

Personally I wish MCPS would announce makeup days the same day it has the extra closure. That would give enough warning for people to react.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 15:13     Subject: Re:Makeup school day?

In the past, MCPS would wait until the end and ask for a waiver. Waivers were often granted for snow during a state of emergency. Hogan was very reluctant to give waivers, especially if the county didn't try to make up at least some. Who knows how Wes Moore feels about this. But by the time a waiver is requested and denied most of the make up days would have been passed so we would use the ones at the end of the year.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 14:32     Subject: Makeup school day?

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Anonymous wrote:They will not make up any days. They always get a waiver.. they have never used any so called make up days or extended the school year (not that I can recall..).


You don't have a long memory. They used a makeup day and extended the school year in 2022.



Yea but Hogan hated MCPS. He is gone and we’ll get a waver


You think the governor is responsible for approving waivers?

No, there won't be a waiver.


You sound so sure of yourself as if you work for MDSE. There is a 50/50 chance there will be. You don't know any more than the other people posting here, so stop pretending like you do.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 14:23     Subject: Makeup school day?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:May 14 is the Maryland primary election. Wouldn’t June 14 make the most sense?


No, as has been discussed at length, days tacked on to the very end of the year end up being useless. We've got other make-ups in the calendar. This really shouldn't be so complicated. Use the first make-up day that's available to preserve the others for the additional days that will be needed.


That’s your opinion, but I personally think June 14 is a useful and better option in that it will upset/disrupt fewer people. No one has a one day camp starting that day. It doesn’t ignite a religious debate. It could have easily been the last day of school in the first place. I would even keep 6/13 as a half day, do 6/14 as a half day to give teachers time to wrap everything up and close out.


Except it does excite a religious debate. If 6/14 is selected for instruction, teachers’ last work day becomes 6/17. This is Eid Al-Adha. So teachers will not be able then to celebrate either Eid (since they are blocked on the first one by planning and grading).


Further emphasizing the absurdity of attempting to accomodate religious holidays.



The absurdity of making it possible to have religious practice without significant hurdles... right.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 13:58     Subject: Makeup school day?

Jan 29 is way too soon.
And finalizing end of semester grades + report cards takes several hours of teacher time.
When will all that get done if it becomes a full school day. Teachers also have state mandated SLOs to submit along with IEP quarterly reports. They also need to create Canvas courses for semester 2.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 12:43     Subject: Makeup school day?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:May 14 is the Maryland primary election. Wouldn’t June 14 make the most sense?


No, as has been discussed at length, days tacked on to the very end of the year end up being useless. We've got other make-ups in the calendar. This really shouldn't be so complicated. Use the first make-up day that's available to preserve the others for the additional days that will be needed.


That’s your opinion, but I personally think June 14 is a useful and better option in that it will upset/disrupt fewer people. No one has a one day camp starting that day. It doesn’t ignite a religious debate. It could have easily been the last day of school in the first place. I would even keep 6/13 as a half day, do 6/14 as a half day to give teachers time to wrap everything up and close out.


Except it does excite a religious debate. If 6/14 is selected for instruction, teachers’ last work day becomes 6/17. This is Eid Al-Adha. So teachers will not be able then to celebrate either Eid (since they are blocked on the first one by planning and grading).


Further emphasizing the absurdity of attempting to accomodate religious holidays.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 12:40     Subject: Makeup school day?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:May 14 is the Maryland primary election. Wouldn’t June 14 make the most sense?


No, as has been discussed at length, days tacked on to the very end of the year end up being useless. We've got other make-ups in the calendar. This really shouldn't be so complicated. Use the first make-up day that's available to preserve the others for the additional days that will be needed.


That’s your opinion, but I personally think June 14 is a useful and better option in that it will upset/disrupt fewer people. No one has a one day camp starting that day. It doesn’t ignite a religious debate. It could have easily been the last day of school in the first place. I would even keep 6/13 as a half day, do 6/14 as a half day to give teachers time to wrap everything up and close out.


The time for that debate has come and gone. That's a calendar issue, and the calendar has been long set to include April 10 and April 22 as make-up days. If you don't think those should be school days, raise the issue when they create the new calendars.


We do raise it, but the school system purposely selects these days as PD/Planning/Makeup as a gamble that it will work out.


There are too many cultural and religious holidays to accommodate them all. So these either need to be make-up days, in which case we'll need to be able to use them for that purpose, or they need to be regular school days. So if your goal is to free up this day for teachers, then understand that pushing back on its use as a make up day could backfire.


Are you going to take a turn and go on your holiday? We can’t accommodate them all!


I'm not religious. So, sure.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 12:39     Subject: Makeup school day?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:May 14 is the Maryland primary election. Wouldn’t June 14 make the most sense?


No, as has been discussed at length, days tacked on to the very end of the year end up being useless. We've got other make-ups in the calendar. This really shouldn't be so complicated. Use the first make-up day that's available to preserve the others for the additional days that will be needed.


That’s your opinion, but I personally think June 14 is a useful and better option in that it will upset/disrupt fewer people. No one has a one day camp starting that day. It doesn’t ignite a religious debate. It could have easily been the last day of school in the first place. I would even keep 6/13 as a half day, do 6/14 as a half day to give teachers time to wrap everything up and close out.


Except it does excite a religious debate. If 6/14 is selected for instruction, teachers’ last work day becomes 6/17. This is Eid Al-Adha. So teachers will not be able then to celebrate either Eid (since they are blocked on the first one by planning and grading).


They could do it 6/18 or do it 6/17 but extend the deadline to 6/18 and allow anyone who wants to celebrate an extra day to wrap up.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 12:38     Subject: Makeup school day?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They will not make up any days. They always get a waiver.. they have never used any so called make up days or extended the school year (not that I can recall..).


You don't have a long memory. They used a makeup day and extended the school year in 2022.



Yea but Hogan hated MCPS. He is gone and we’ll get a waver


You think the governor is responsible for approving waivers?

No, there won't be a waiver.
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 12:36     Subject: Makeup school day?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They will not make up any days. They always get a waiver.. they have never used any so called make up days or extended the school year (not that I can recall..).


Why would the state give a waiver when the state is allowing virtual inclement weather days for the second year? The state says you can use virtual days, but MCPS does not, even though other counties do. Then MCPS asks for, and apparently expects, a waiver for those days? That seems a bit much.


+1
Anonymous
Post 01/22/2024 12:36     Subject: Makeup school day?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:May 14 is the Maryland primary election. Wouldn’t June 14 make the most sense?


No, as has been discussed at length, days tacked on to the very end of the year end up being useless. We've got other make-ups in the calendar. This really shouldn't be so complicated. Use the first make-up day that's available to preserve the others for the additional days that will be needed.


That’s your opinion, but I personally think June 14 is a useful and better option in that it will upset/disrupt fewer people. No one has a one day camp starting that day. It doesn’t ignite a religious debate. It could have easily been the last day of school in the first place. I would even keep 6/13 as a half day, do 6/14 as a half day to give teachers time to wrap everything up and close out.


The time for that debate has come and gone. That's a calendar issue, and the calendar has been long set to include April 10 and April 22 as make-up days. If you don't think those should be school days, raise the issue when they create the new calendars.


We do raise it, but the school system purposely selects these days as PD/Planning/Makeup as a gamble that it will work out.


There are too many cultural and religious holidays to accommodate them all. So these either need to be make-up days, in which case we'll need to be able to use them for that purpose, or they need to be regular school days. So if your goal is to free up this day for teachers, then understand that pushing back on its use as a make up day could backfire.


Are you going to take a turn and go on your holiday? We can’t accommodate them all!