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Anonymous wrote:Case and Worcester are not MIT peers. Not even CMU, except in CS.

MIT peer is Caltech. Different schools, vibes. If the student is also into liberal arts, check out Harvey Mudd. Engineering at Mudd, liberal arts at Pomona...

There is no peer to MIT. It's a unique school.

There really isn't an American peer.

There's Oxford and Cambridge. The latter being a little better in STEM. The former better in humanities.

But in the US, no. MIT is very particular about who they admit. All very talented people.

Talented in what way?

Intellectually talented evidenced by significant achievements.

I think PPs meant tainted, not talented. Tainted by plagiarism, cheating from top down.

Anonymous wrote:Too many Asians at MIT. It gets annoying.
And I’m actually Asian before y’all call me racist

Did you grow up on the east coast? MIT was the same Asian mix as growing up on the west coast. I noticed no difference. But my east coast friends definitely commented on it a lot.

Anonymous wrote:Too many Asians at MIT. It gets annoying.
And I’m actually Asian before y’all call me racist

You’re still a racist.

Too many Asians at MIT. It gets annoying.
And I’m actually Asian before y’all call me racist

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Anonymous wrote:MiT peers, in terms of ROI, isn't any of the ivy plus schools. Service academies do very well - as do many vocational schools.

https://www.payscale.com/college-roi

People who are choosing schools based on ROI simply don’t belong at MIT or Cal Tech. Those are schools for kids who are trying to escape the pain of taking absurdly easy classes, not for greedy little creeps.

Lol. Keep fooling yourself if you think these kids don't care one bit about attending an ivy plus school.

Anonymous wrote:Case and Worcester are not MIT peers. Not even CMU, except in CS.

MIT peer is Caltech. Different schools, vibes. If the student is also into liberal arts, check out Harvey Mudd. Engineering at Mudd, liberal arts at Pomona...

If students were on track for MIT but somehow get bought by Duke, WUSTL, Rice, etc., the schools will find ways to support them.

Anonymous wrote:MiT peers, in terms of ROI, isn't any of the ivy plus schools. Service academies do very well - as do many vocational schools.

https://www.payscale.com/college-roi

People who are choosing schools based on ROI simply don’t belong at MIT or Cal Tech. Those are schools for kids who are trying to escape the pain of taking absurdly easy classes, not for greedy little creeps.

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Anonymous wrote:It is a grind, like every course is hard and everyone is brilliant, often way more brilliant than you. My sister attended and is brilliant and struggled academically. She did great socially for the first time in her life -- she is on the spectrum, but her like organizational, executive functioning, and study skills were not up to where they needed to be as she coasted through her very elite private school without needing to really study.

MIT grad - I truly believe there is no level of studying skills that can prepare you for MIT. Multiple times I walked into an exam and not a single question on the page was familiar. As though there was some other text book I was missing. By junior/senior year you are taking graduate level courses with grad students too. ChemE was notorious for exam scores averaging in the 50/100 = an A. In other words, they want you to fail.

Meh, Obama said one advantage of attending an ivy is you never have to be impressed by an ivy degree. It ain't all that.

This. I was at MIT for 6 years after undergrad getting my doctorate. TA’d several classes. It is a great school but I don’t understand why this listserve puts MIT on such a pedestal. It has its good points and its bad points. The students there are very self selecting. Many kids are a bit weird socially. And yes, some kids seriously have a breakdown when they get their first B or C because they are used to always getting the best grades. Some professors are great, others are terrible. School has a narrow STEM focus which gets frustrating sometimes. Business school is pretty separate and does its own thing. Campus is decent but also a little meh

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Anonymous wrote:It is a grind, like every course is hard and everyone is brilliant, often way more brilliant than you. My sister attended and is brilliant and struggled academically. She did great socially for the first time in her life -- she is on the spectrum, but her like organizational, executive functioning, and study skills were not up to where they needed to be as she coasted through her very elite private school without needing to really study.

MIT grad - I truly believe there is no level of studying skills that can prepare you for MIT. Multiple times I walked into an exam and not a single question on the page was familiar. As though there was some other text book I was missing. By junior/senior year you are taking graduate level courses with grad students too. ChemE was notorious for exam scores averaging in the 50/100 = an A. In other words, they want you to fail.

Meh. That's the norm in most IITs in India. Science is hard, engineering is hard(er?), math (at least higher level, formal stuff) is insane. What good does it do to have feel-good grades, when most real life stuff is challenging?

For IIT aspirants, MIT is a fallback school. If IIT were a reach, MIT is a safety.

For every genius out there, there's always someone smarter.

I don't think anyone can make a statement like that. It is just absurd.
The selection criteria is completely different between IIT and MIT.

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Anonymous wrote:It is a grind, like every course is hard and everyone is brilliant, often way more brilliant than you. My sister attended and is brilliant and struggled academically. She did great socially for the first time in her life -- she is on the spectrum, but her like organizational, executive functioning, and study skills were not up to where they needed to be as she coasted through her very elite private school without needing to really study.

MIT grad - I truly believe there is no level of studying skills that can prepare you for MIT. Multiple times I walked into an exam and not a single question on the page was familiar. As though there was some other text book I was missing. By junior/senior year you are taking graduate level courses with grad students too. ChemE was notorious for exam scores averaging in the 50/100 = an A. In other words, they want you to fail.

Meh. That's the norm in most IITs in India. Science is hard, engineering is hard(er?), math (at least higher level, formal stuff) is insane. What good does it do to have feel-good grades, when most real life stuff is challenging?

For IIT aspirants, MIT is a fallback school. If IIT were a reach, MIT is a safety.

For every genius out there, there's always someone smarter.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a grind, like every course is hard and everyone is brilliant, often way more brilliant than you. My sister attended and is brilliant and struggled academically. She did great socially for the first time in her life -- she is on the spectrum, but her like organizational, executive functioning, and study skills were not up to where they needed to be as she coasted through her very elite private school without needing to really study.

MIT grad - I truly believe there is no level of studying skills that can prepare you for MIT. Multiple times I walked into an exam and not a single question on the page was familiar. As though there was some other text book I was missing. By junior/senior year you are taking graduate level courses with grad students too. ChemE was notorious for exam scores averaging in the 50/100 = an A. In other words, they want you to fail.

Meh. That's the norm in most IITs in India. Science is hard, engineering is hard(er?), math (at least higher level, formal stuff) is insane. What good does it do to have feel-good grades, when most real life stuff is challenging?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is a grind, like every course is hard and everyone is brilliant, often way more brilliant than you. My sister attended and is brilliant and struggled academically. She did great socially for the first time in her life -- she is on the spectrum, but her like organizational, executive functioning, and study skills were not up to where they needed to be as she coasted through her very elite private school without needing to really study.

MIT grad - I truly believe there is no level of studying skills that can prepare you for MIT. Multiple times I walked into an exam and not a single question on the page was familiar. As though there was some other text book I was missing. By junior/senior year you are taking graduate level courses with grad students too. ChemE was notorious for exam scores averaging in the 50/100 = an A. In other words, they want you to fail.

Meh, Obama said one advantage of attending an ivy is you never have to be impressed by an ivy degree. It ain't all that.

Anonymous wrote:It is a grind, like every course is hard and everyone is brilliant, often way more brilliant than you. My sister attended and is brilliant and struggled academically. She did great socially for the first time in her life -- she is on the spectrum, but her like organizational, executive functioning, and study skills were not up to where they needed to be as she coasted through her very elite private school without needing to really study.

MIT grad - I truly believe there is no level of studying skills that can prepare you for MIT. Multiple times I walked into an exam and not a single question on the page was familiar. As though there was some other text book I was missing. By junior/senior year you are taking graduate level courses with grad students too. ChemE was notorious for exam scores averaging in the 50/100 = an A. In other words, they want you to fail.

It is a grind, like every course is hard and everyone is brilliant, often way more brilliant than you. My sister attended and is brilliant and struggled academically. She did great socially for the first time in her life -- she is on the spectrum, but her like organizational, executive functioning, and study skills were not up to where they needed to be as she coasted through her very elite private school without needing to really study.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Case and Worcester are not MIT peers. Not even CMU, except in CS.

MIT peer is Caltech. Different schools, vibes. If the student is also into liberal arts, check out Harvey Mudd. Engineering at Mudd, liberal arts at Pomona...

There is no peer to MIT. It's a unique school.

There really isn't an American peer.

There's Oxford and Cambridge. The latter being a little better in STEM. The former better in humanities.

But in the US, no. MIT is very particular about who they admit. All very talented people.

Talented in what way?

Intellectually talented evidenced by significant achievements.