Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 14:18     Subject: Biden’s latest Poll numbers

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Anonymous wrote:Poll numbers are all over the place, and unless the pollsters are providing cross-tabs, they provide very little value.

Among the 18-25 set, Biden is at 63%.
Among likely voters, Biden is at 52%
In the swing states, Biden is over Trump by anywhere from 2-4 points.



You made this up unless you show me the crosstabs. I looked for them and didn't see any of your numbers.



You didn't look very hard



You can look up the crosstabs there and then find the other ones.


The OP linked the ABC poll with Ipsos.

You posted a different poll. The ABC poll crosstabs didn't have the data you posted. Stay on topic, please.

So it's a battle of my poll beats up your poll, eh?


Last I checked, the title of the thread was "Biden's latest polling numbers" ergo, on topic.


You popped into thread and posted data from another poll without explaining it was a different poll. And told people to look at the crosstabs. Without explaining it was a different poll or what that poll was or where to find the crosstabs.

All clear now?

As it is, before you get so high and mighty and enthusiastic, let's compare the youth data to 2020. Even a 5% decline in support for Biden among the youths can cost him the election as all Turnip has to do to win is to win back three swing states that he lost by 45k votes collectively.



He isn't getting any of PA, MI or WI now. That much is clear. The GOP in those states, particularly Michigan is dead. In fact, the MAGAs and traditional republicans there are suing each other into oblivian.

What other ideas do you have for Trump getting the necessary Electoral College votes?
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 14:17     Subject: Biden’s latest Poll numbers

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Anonymous wrote:Is it really going to be the end of the world if Trump wins?


It will certainly be the end of a functioning US, and erode our standing in the world. That was already beginning during his previous disaster of an administration.

Further, what does it say about the people who vote for him? That millions will vote for a foul-mouthed bully, a 3 times married adulterer, someone who bragged about sexually assaulting women on national television. Someone who mocks the disabled, military families. Someone who is so utterly not in control of his emotions and impulses. Someone who instills his kids to grift off of the government, despite having ZERO qualifications to hold those positions. Someone who led an ARMED insurrection of a democratic election. . . It says some pretty remarkable and revolting things about someone who is willing to vote for such a person.

And do not both sides this sh--- with me. There is no both sides.


Yeah. There is a "both sides" argument. So much of your rant applies to Biden himself.
He is not the kindly grandfatherly type that the media likes to portray. Remember..... "He's gonna put you all back in chains!!!" or "If you don't vote for me, you ain't black." I could go on with the hateful and racist comments Biden has made. They have all been memory-holed by the left.
And, the whole mocking things... debunked.
And, if you want to talk about grifting off the government.... I present to you Hunter Biden - who grifts off the governments of our adversaries in exchange for access/favors.
And, some would argue that Biden is leading an armed insurrection of our country as we speak.... turning control of our borders over to the cartels.
He has been a disaster.




Unless or until Biden organizes "alternative electors," foments an insurrection in order to stage a coup to remain in office, they are not the same.


I agree.
I happen to believe that what Biden is doing is far worse.


Really? What is he doing that is worse than undermining the foundation of our Republic?
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 14:14     Subject: Biden’s latest Poll numbers

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Poll numbers are all over the place, and unless the pollsters are providing cross-tabs, they provide very little value.

Among the 18-25 set, Biden is at 63%.
Among likely voters, Biden is at 52%
In the swing states, Biden is over Trump by anywhere from 2-4 points.



You made this up unless you show me the crosstabs. I looked for them and didn't see any of your numbers.



You didn't look very hard



You can look up the crosstabs there and then find the other ones.


The OP linked the ABC poll with Ipsos.

You posted a different poll. The ABC poll crosstabs didn't have the data you posted. Stay on topic, please.

So it's a battle of my poll beats up your poll, eh?


Last I checked, the title of the thread was "Biden's latest polling numbers" ergo, on topic.


You popped into thread and posted data from another poll without explaining it was a different poll. And told people to look at the crosstabs. Without explaining it was a different poll or what that poll was or where to find the crosstabs.

All clear now?

As it is, before you get so high and mighty and enthusiastic, let's compare the youth data to 2020. Even a 5% decline in support for Biden among the youths can cost him the election as all Turnip has to do to win is to win back three swing states that he lost by 45k votes collectively.

Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 14:13     Subject: Biden’s latest Poll numbers

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BIDEN/TRUMP -- A Biden/Trump general election, if that's the outcome of the primary season, would represent a battle of markedly unpopular candidates. Among all adults, Biden's approval rating is just 33% in this poll, worse than Trump's low as president (36%) and the lowest since George W. Bush from 2006-2008. Fifty-eight percent disapprove of Biden's work.

Among groups, just 31% of women now approve of Biden's work in office, a new low (as do 34% of men). He won 57% of women in 2020.

He's at 28% approval among independents, a customary swing voter group; a low of 32% among moderates; and a low of 41% among college graduates, 10 points off his career average in that group.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-tops-opponents-biden-hits-new-low-approval/story?id=106335244

Oh my God! This is horrible.


Biden only has a chance in 2024 because his likely opponent is a very weak, awful candidate. Trump only has a chance in 2024 because his likely opponent is a very weak, awful candidate. The 2024 election is shaping up to be the most disgusting spectacle in the history of the world. Seriously, how did we get into such a mess?


Extremists on bith sides.

BoThSiDeS


Yes — and the polls have said as much but partisans, especially the Ds, have had cotton in their ears. Sorry to disappoint the cLoWn CaR pOsTeR. If the Ds got overtly and literally tough on stopping illegal border crossings and classification of so many economic migrants as asylum seekers, I bet the polls would fare much, much better for Biden.


You would be wrong. Biden’s slide in the poll is directly link to his support of Israel. Biden when over to Jim Jones, hugged him, said the world is out to get you but I have brought you arms to fight the world…brother.


Biden's approval rating has been historically low for most of his first term. What has happened since 10/07 has caused a slide in average polling data but per the American people, Biden was already unpopular when that slide began. Trump and Biden are no doubt the most unpopular politicians to ever be the favorites to win their party's nomination.


What I’ve said repeatedly still seems to hold. Neither party has the full support of most people including those that vote for them. Half the policies they say they have a mandate from
The people to do is a crock o’shite. People may only want half of what the propose, and oppose the other half. Just because you win a slight majority of the popular vote doesn’t mean people are 100% behind everything or even most things you do as president. Gah! Even some of what you get credit for (good or bad) is the result of what one or more administrations did before you.
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 13:42     Subject: Biden’s latest Poll numbers

Anonymous wrote:Biden needs to out on a little weight if he is planning on being on stage with Dump.


put on
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 13:42     Subject: Biden’s latest Poll numbers

Biden needs to out on a little weight if he is planning on being on stage with Dump.
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 13:39     Subject: Biden’s latest Poll numbers

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BIDEN/TRUMP -- A Biden/Trump general election, if that's the outcome of the primary season, would represent a battle of markedly unpopular candidates. Among all adults, Biden's approval rating is just 33% in this poll, worse than Trump's low as president (36%) and the lowest since George W. Bush from 2006-2008. Fifty-eight percent disapprove of Biden's work.

Among groups, just 31% of women now approve of Biden's work in office, a new low (as do 34% of men). He won 57% of women in 2020.

He's at 28% approval among independents, a customary swing voter group; a low of 32% among moderates; and a low of 41% among college graduates, 10 points off his career average in that group.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-tops-opponents-biden-hits-new-low-approval/story?id=106335244

Oh my God! This is horrible.


Biden only has a chance in 2024 because his likely opponent is a very weak, awful candidate. Trump only has a chance in 2024 because his likely opponent is a very weak, awful candidate. The 2024 election is shaping up to be the most disgusting spectacle in the history of the world. Seriously, how did we get into such a mess?


Extremists on bith sides.

BoThSiDeS


Yes — and the polls have said as much but partisans, especially the Ds, have had cotton in their ears. Sorry to disappoint the cLoWn CaR pOsTeR. If the Ds got overtly and literally tough on stopping illegal border crossings and classification of so many economic migrants as asylum seekers, I bet the polls would fare much, much better for Biden.


You would be wrong. Biden’s slide in the poll is directly link to his support of Israel. Biden when over to Jim Jones, hugged him, said the world is out to get you but I have brought you arms to fight the world…brother.


Biden's approval rating has been historically low for most of his first term. What has happened since 10/07 has caused a slide in average polling data but per the American people, Biden was already unpopular when that slide began. Trump and Biden are no doubt the most unpopular politicians to ever be the favorites to win their party's nomination.
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 13:32     Subject: Biden’s latest Poll numbers

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
BIDEN/TRUMP -- A Biden/Trump general election, if that's the outcome of the primary season, would represent a battle of markedly unpopular candidates. Among all adults, Biden's approval rating is just 33% in this poll, worse than Trump's low as president (36%) and the lowest since George W. Bush from 2006-2008. Fifty-eight percent disapprove of Biden's work.

Among groups, just 31% of women now approve of Biden's work in office, a new low (as do 34% of men). He won 57% of women in 2020.

He's at 28% approval among independents, a customary swing voter group; a low of 32% among moderates; and a low of 41% among college graduates, 10 points off his career average in that group.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-tops-opponents-biden-hits-new-low-approval/story?id=106335244

Oh my God! This is horrible.


Biden only has a chance in 2024 because his likely opponent is a very weak, awful candidate. Trump only has a chance in 2024 because his likely opponent is a very weak, awful candidate. The 2024 election is shaping up to be the most disgusting spectacle in the history of the world. Seriously, how did we get into such a mess?


Extremists on bith sides.

BoThSiDeS


Yes — and the polls have said as much but partisans, especially the Ds, have had cotton in their ears. Sorry to disappoint the cLoWn CaR pOsTeR. If the Ds got overtly and literally tough on stopping illegal border crossings and classification of so many economic migrants as asylum seekers, I bet the polls would fare much, much better for Biden.


You would be wrong. Biden’s slide in the poll is directly link to his support of Israel. Biden when over to Jim Jones, hugged him, said the world is out to get you but I have brought you arms to fight the world…brother.
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 13:29     Subject: Biden’s latest Poll numbers

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it really going to be the end of the world if Trump wins?


It will certainly be the end of a functioning US, and erode our standing in the world. That was already beginning during his previous disaster of an administration.

Further, what does it say about the people who vote for him? That millions will vote for a foul-mouthed bully, a 3 times married adulterer, someone who bragged about sexually assaulting women on national television. Someone who mocks the disabled, military families. Someone who is so utterly not in control of his emotions and impulses. Someone who instills his kids to grift off of the government, despite having ZERO qualifications to hold those positions. Someone who led an ARMED insurrection of a democratic election. . . It says some pretty remarkable and revolting things about someone who is willing to vote for such a person.

And do not both sides this sh--- with me. There is no both sides.


Yeah. There is a "both sides" argument. So much of your rant applies to Biden himself.
He is not the kindly grandfatherly type that the media likes to portray. Remember..... "He's gonna put you all back in chains!!!" or "If you don't vote for me, you ain't black." I could go on with the hateful and racist comments Biden has made. They have all been memory-holed by the left.
And, the whole mocking things... debunked.
And, if you want to talk about grifting off the government.... I present to you Hunter Biden - who grifts off the governments of our adversaries in exchange for access/favors.
And, some would argue that Biden is leading an armed insurrection of our country as we speak.... turning control of our borders over to the cartels.
He has been a disaster.




Biden is being selfish by seeking another term and therefore putting us at risk of a second Trump term but all things considered, Biden has been less of a disaster than Trump was as president.


RGB 2.0 sits in the White House.


+1000
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 12:31     Subject: Biden’s latest Poll numbers

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it really going to be the end of the world if Trump wins?


It will certainly be the end of a functioning US, and erode our standing in the world. That was already beginning during his previous disaster of an administration.

Further, what does it say about the people who vote for him? That millions will vote for a foul-mouthed bully, a 3 times married adulterer, someone who bragged about sexually assaulting women on national television. Someone who mocks the disabled, military families. Someone who is so utterly not in control of his emotions and impulses. Someone who instills his kids to grift off of the government, despite having ZERO qualifications to hold those positions. Someone who led an ARMED insurrection of a democratic election. . . It says some pretty remarkable and revolting things about someone who is willing to vote for such a person.

And do not both sides this sh--- with me. There is no both sides.


Yeah. There is a "both sides" argument. So much of your rant applies to Biden himself.
He is not the kindly grandfatherly type that the media likes to portray. Remember..... "He's gonna put you all back in chains!!!" or "If you don't vote for me, you ain't black." I could go on with the hateful and racist comments Biden has made. They have all been memory-holed by the left.
And, the whole mocking things... debunked.
And, if you want to talk about grifting off the government.... I present to you Hunter Biden - who grifts off the governments of our adversaries in exchange for access/favors.
And, some would argue that Biden is leading an armed insurrection of our country as we speak.... turning control of our borders over to the cartels.
He has been a disaster.




Biden is being selfish by seeking another term and therefore putting us at risk of a second Trump term but all things considered, Biden has been less of a disaster than Trump was as president.


RGB 2.0 sits in the White House.
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 12:30     Subject: Biden’s latest Poll numbers

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it really going to be the end of the world if Trump wins?


Are you aware that last time he was defeated, he tried to overthrow our government?


The Capitol Police and Congress have to be better prepared to defend itself and coordinate LE with other entities. The hysterics are off-putting on many levels.
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 12:28     Subject: Biden’s latest Poll numbers

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it really going to be the end of the world if Trump wins?


It will certainly be the end of a functioning US, and erode our standing in the world. That was already beginning during his previous disaster of an administration.

Further, what does it say about the people who vote for him? That millions will vote for a foul-mouthed bully, a 3 times married adulterer, someone who bragged about sexually assaulting women on national television. Someone who mocks the disabled, military families. Someone who is so utterly not in control of his emotions and impulses. Someone who instills his kids to grift off of the government, despite having ZERO qualifications to hold those positions. Someone who led an ARMED insurrection of a democratic election. . . It says some pretty remarkable and revolting things about someone who is willing to vote for such a person.

And do not both sides this sh--- with me. There is no both sides.


Yeah. There is a "both sides" argument. So much of your rant applies to Biden himself.
He is not the kindly grandfatherly type that the media likes to portray. Remember..... "He's gonna put you all back in chains!!!" or "If you don't vote for me, you ain't black." I could go on with the hateful and racist comments Biden has made. They have all been memory-holed by the left.
And, the whole mocking things... debunked.
And, if you want to talk about grifting off the government.... I present to you Hunter Biden - who grifts off the governments of our adversaries in exchange for access/favors.
And, some would argue that Biden is leading an armed insurrection of our country as we speak.... turning control of our borders over to the cartels.
He has been a disaster.




Unless or until Biden organizes "alternative electors," foments an insurrection in order to stage a coup to remain in office, they are not the same.


I agree.
I happen to believe that what Biden is doing is far worse.
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 12:19     Subject: Biden’s latest Poll numbers

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
BIDEN/TRUMP -- A Biden/Trump general election, if that's the outcome of the primary season, would represent a battle of markedly unpopular candidates. Among all adults, Biden's approval rating is just 33% in this poll, worse than Trump's low as president (36%) and the lowest since George W. Bush from 2006-2008. Fifty-eight percent disapprove of Biden's work.

Among groups, just 31% of women now approve of Biden's work in office, a new low (as do 34% of men). He won 57% of women in 2020.

He's at 28% approval among independents, a customary swing voter group; a low of 32% among moderates; and a low of 41% among college graduates, 10 points off his career average in that group.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-tops-opponents-biden-hits-new-low-approval/story?id=106335244

Oh my God! This is horrible.


Biden only has a chance in 2024 because his likely opponent is a very weak, awful candidate. Trump only has a chance in 2024 because his likely opponent is a very weak, awful candidate. The 2024 election is shaping up to be the most disgusting spectacle in the history of the world. Seriously, how did we get into such a mess?


Extremists on bith sides.

BoThSiDeS


Yes — and the polls have said as much but partisans, especially the Ds, have had cotton in their ears. Sorry to disappoint the cLoWn CaR pOsTeR. If the Ds got overtly and literally tough on stopping illegal border crossings and classification of so many economic migrants as asylum seekers, I bet the polls would fare much, much better for Biden.
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 12:10     Subject: Biden’s latest Poll numbers

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it really going to be the end of the world if Trump wins?


It will certainly be the end of a functioning US, and erode our standing in the world. That was already beginning during his previous disaster of an administration.

Further, what does it say about the people who vote for him? That millions will vote for a foul-mouthed bully, a 3 times married adulterer, someone who bragged about sexually assaulting women on national television. Someone who mocks the disabled, military families. Someone who is so utterly not in control of his emotions and impulses. Someone who instills his kids to grift off of the government, despite having ZERO qualifications to hold those positions. Someone who led an ARMED insurrection of a democratic election. . . It says some pretty remarkable and revolting things about someone who is willing to vote for such a person.

And do not both sides this sh--- with me. There is no both sides.


Yeah. There is a "both sides" argument. So much of your rant applies to Biden himself.
He is not the kindly grandfatherly type that the media likes to portray. Remember..... "He's gonna put you all back in chains!!!" or "If you don't vote for me, you ain't black." I could go on with the hateful and racist comments Biden has made. They have all been memory-holed by the left.
And, the whole mocking things... debunked.
And, if you want to talk about grifting off the government.... I present to you Hunter Biden - who grifts off the governments of our adversaries in exchange for access/favors.
And, some would argue that Biden is leading an armed insurrection of our country as we speak.... turning control of our borders over to the cartels.
He has been a disaster.




Biden is being selfish by seeking another term and therefore putting us at risk of a second Trump term but all things considered, Biden has been less of a disaster than Trump was as president.
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 12:09     Subject: Re:Biden’s latest Poll numbers

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Approval of handling of the economy is at 31%.

Percentage of people who believe he has the mental sharpness to do the job is 28%.

Not good numbers. So, the question is..... will he drop out before the convention, during the convention, or will he stay in the race?


We're all hoping Trump and Biden drop out well before the conventions but it doesn't seem likely to happen at this point.

We are all hoping you face reality and stop posting something like this in every single thread in the politics forum. Filing deadlines are a thing. No one is coming to save you.