NP. I haven’t read the rest of the thread. I assume is is filled with the usual angry white women who are incandescent with rage over the existence of GPLP-1 agonists because they experience the idea that weight could be managed with medication as a grave narcissistic injury? I don’t have the energy to wade through their furious screeching.

However, some facts: litigation is typical in the US after the introduction of new drugs, particularly new drugs with widespread use. It is also expected that as drug use grows, some side effects will be discovered. These drugs have been around for some time and used successfully for diabetics, however, and seem to be the most successful on a class of obese people who resemble diabetics, so I imagine the side effects will be similar. But we will see. The law firm in this case isn’t a very respected one, and my guess is this is a cash grab more than anything.

Also I’m not on Ozempic (glancing up I see someone asked that). I don’t need it, either. I have very little patience for the psychologically damaged people who are irrationally angry about this class of drugs, however.

I don't understand why people would file suit - the side effects are known and listed. The instant I had stomach pains on Wegovy, my doctor told me to stop taking the medicine and go get a CT scan immediately because pancreatitis and other abdominal issues are a major risk with this medicine. The people suing probably kept taking the medicine because they wanted to continue losing weight and then, surprise, the abdominal issues persisted.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you mad your insurance doesn’t pay for it? What’s your real concern, concern troll?

NP here. Every person who questions the overuse of these new drugs to not have to be bitter trolls. We all know the other shoe is going to drop. This cannot be healthy. We all need to stop talking about "food noise," and just take responsibility for our health by making good choices. Trust me, I struggle every day. I am not in the overweight category, but close and gained a lot of weight, binge eating and drinking too much during the pandemic. Now I am sadly paying the price and controlling my binge eating on my own. It can be done. It's very hard. But there is no way that starving yourself through drugs, while losing muscle, is healthy.

I commend you for this! As the old adage goes “it took you time to put it on, it’ll take time to get it off” regarding the weight. I’m similar to you in that I am taking stock of owning my choices and behaviors (and while fun in the moment) overconsumption of sugar, alcohol and processed foods have taken their toll. I don’t count calories and try to steer clear of above mentioned things we know are wrecking our health and bodies. I incorporate cardio, strength and rest appropriate for my age. I fight the internal food chatter just like everyone else and some days I win, some days I lose. But I refuse to let the pharmaceutical industry bait me in to one more drug that will promise the moon and do who knows what to my body for the long haul. I also find it a bit said that all of these people consuming it for vanity or by convincing themselves they are right on the edge of needing it to be causing hardships for those that really need it. This sounds harsh but for a lot of people they need discipline and get off their a**es and quiet the “food noise” by taking ownership of their own health.

You're a sanctimonious ass. Too bad 2/3 of Americans that are overweight or obese don't have the moral fiber that you do.

PS. I did get off my ass and take ownership of my own health by working out 5 days a week, sticking to a balanced 1200/cal. a day diet, and cutting way down on alcohol consumption and sweets--all while taking weight loss medication.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you mad your insurance doesn’t pay for it? What’s your real concern, concern troll?

NP here. Every person who questions the overuse of these new drugs to not have to be bitter trolls. We all know the other shoe is going to drop. This cannot be healthy. We all need to stop talking about "food noise," and just take responsibility for our health by making good choices. Trust me, I struggle every day. I am not in the overweight category, but close and gained a lot of weight, binge eating and drinking too much during the pandemic. Now I am sadly paying the price and controlling my binge eating on my own. It can be done. It's very hard. But there is no way that starving yourself through drugs, while losing muscle, is healthy.

But if you’re not taking it, what’s your concern?

Well, it's hard to watch people make bad decisions for the wrong reasons. I guess it's the same way I feel when I see people spiraling out from drug or alcohol addiction or an eating disorder. I just care, I guess.

You are such a caring person. I’m sure you go out of the way to befriend fat people because you care SO MUCH about them and their well being. Get out of here.

You really need to back away from DCUM for a bit. You are ranting at multiple posts. I have friends and relatives of all different shapes and sizes. Never, would I ever, talk to them about their weight, or how they're handling their health. My sister was obese for quite a long time and her husband was constantly asking me to intervene. I refused. On an anonymous forum, where the question of whether these drugs or safe or not is a valid one, I will share my opinion that it concerns me that yet another drug is added to the glut of meds people are already on, when there are healthier ways. Honestly, I think it would be healthier to stay overweight. For diabetes, of course, if these drugs are saving lives, great. But for overweight, I think it's healthier just to accept who you are and take the best care of yourself you can. I am overweight, but otherwise healthy.

No, it's not healthier to stay obese or overweight. I don't care whether you lose weight (by any means) or don't: that's your choice. But telling somebody it's healthier to carry an extra 50 lbs, with the associated heart and joint implications, rather than take a drug that has been around 20 years? That opinion is not valid, sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you mad your insurance doesn’t pay for it? What’s your real concern, concern troll?

NP here. Every person who questions the overuse of these new drugs to not have to be bitter trolls. We all know the other shoe is going to drop. This cannot be healthy. We all need to stop talking about "food noise," and just take responsibility for our health by making good choices. Trust me, I struggle every day. I am not in the overweight category, but close and gained a lot of weight, binge eating and drinking too much during the pandemic. Now I am sadly paying the price and controlling my binge eating on my own. It can be done. It's very hard. But there is no way that starving yourself through drugs, while losing muscle, is healthy.

I commend you for this! As the old adage goes “it took you time to put it on, it’ll take time to get it off” regarding the weight. I’m similar to you in that I am taking stock of owning my choices and behaviors (and while fun in the moment) overconsumption of sugar, alcohol and processed foods have taken their toll. I don’t count calories and try to steer clear of above mentioned things we know are wrecking our health and bodies. I incorporate cardio, strength and rest appropriate for my age. I fight the internal food chatter just like everyone else and some days I win, some days I lose. But I refuse to let the pharmaceutical industry bait me in to one more drug that will promise the moon and do who knows what to my body for the long haul. I also find it a bit said that all of these people consuming it for vanity or by convincing themselves they are right on the edge of needing it to be causing hardships for those that really need it. This sounds harsh but for a lot of people they need discipline and get off their a**es and quiet the “food noise” by taking ownership of their own health.

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Anonymous wrote:I am scared of the side effects and therefore will not try these drugs. Will wait for the next generation and until then keep trying the old-fashioned way.

I’ve been on Ozempic since spring 2022. The only side effects have been constipation (if I don’t drink enough water) and fatigue the first few days after taking it. That gets better over time, but I definitely noticed it when I upped my dosage. I’ve never thrown up or been trapped in the bathroom with on-going GI issues.

People tend to complain and post negative side effects, so it can seem like that’s the norm. The reality is that 80% of users have few if any negative side effects. But you don’t hear from them.

Or until it’s too late

Thanks for your concern, troll. I don't know if it's just one of you or several of you stirring the pot on this or similar threads, but it seems to bring you some satisfaction. Maybe find a new hobby?

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Anonymous wrote:I am scared of the side effects and therefore will not try these drugs. Will wait for the next generation and until then keep trying the old-fashioned way.

I’ve been on Ozempic since spring 2022. The only side effects have been constipation (if I don’t drink enough water) and fatigue the first few days after taking it. That gets better over time, but I definitely noticed it when I upped my dosage. I’ve never thrown up or been trapped in the bathroom with on-going GI issues.

People tend to complain and post negative side effects, so it can seem like that’s the norm. The reality is that 80% of users have few if any negative side effects. But you don’t hear from them.

Or until it’s too late

A dear friend experienced projectile vomiting. No thanks.

The number of people who experienced vomiting as a side effect in trials was in the single digits. Do you decline other medications because a single friend (dear or not) had a bad experience with it?

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Anonymous wrote:Are you mad your insurance doesn’t pay for it? What’s your real concern, concern troll?

NP here. Every person who questions the overuse of these new drugs to not have to be bitter trolls. We all know the other shoe is going to drop. This cannot be healthy. We all need to stop talking about "food noise," and just take responsibility for our health by making good choices. Trust me, I struggle every day. I am not in the overweight category, but close and gained a lot of weight, binge eating and drinking too much during the pandemic. Now I am sadly paying the price and controlling my binge eating on my own. It can be done. It's very hard. But there is no way that starving yourself through drugs, while losing muscle, is healthy.

So tired of people who are "almost overweight" thinking they know anything about chronic obesity and the people who have tried every weight loss plan ever, for decades.

I wish you could get an rx for MYOB.

DP. I think these meds are an amazing innovation for people with chronic obesity and diabetes. The problem is the trend of people who don’t need them getting them. That means the risk-benefit profile doesn’t add up. As well, the companies and doctors are not disclosing the risks well enough. There should be a LOT more gatekeeping for these meds.

I agree, and I'm not a candidate for semaglutides for other reasons. If you're "almost overweight" then you don't really understand.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you mad your insurance doesn’t pay for it? What’s your real concern, concern troll?

NP here. Every person who questions the overuse of these new drugs to not have to be bitter trolls. We all know the other shoe is going to drop. This cannot be healthy. We all need to stop talking about "food noise," and just take responsibility for our health by making good choices. Trust me, I struggle every day. I am not in the overweight category, but close and gained a lot of weight, binge eating and drinking too much during the pandemic. Now I am sadly paying the price and controlling my binge eating on my own. It can be done. It's very hard. But there is no way that starving yourself through drugs, while losing muscle, is healthy.

You’re so awesome and amazing. You’re so much better than all of us morally corrupt folks who have to rely on drugs like Ozempic to finally lose some weight after struggling with diets, restricting food, and exercising religiously FOR DECADES. We should all be in awe of your self control while the rest of us are just inferior and lazy.

🤦🏻‍♀️

You really have no idea what you’re talking about. You ate and drank too much during the pandemic. And now you’re not even overweight. Let me guess: You went from a size 4 to a 10 and have worked your ass off to get back to a 6. Go you!!! Come back when this has been a struggle for decades. You dismiss the “food noise” because you’ve never experienced it.

My guess is that you are someone who thinks people are just making up their depression and should get over themselves because you’ve just been sad a day or two here and there.

This isn’t a drug for people who overate a little bit during the pandemic. Thi

On the contrary, in the last 12 years I have lost two children, my identical twin sister, and my father. I know depression, trust me. I struggle with anxiety daily, including thinking about food and alcohol a lot. I don't think suppressing thoughts about food is healthy. You don't have to be so angry at people--who you don't even know--because we have a difference of opinion. I never said anything at all about the "morality" of these drugs. I said that starving yourself because these drugs suppress your thoughts about food is not healthy. It's just not. But please, do try to keep "guessing" all about me.

I'm so sorry for your terrible losses.

I too have suffered terrible traumas.

Unfortunately, my PTSD led me to develop binge eating disorder, gaining 100 lbs. I was that person who everyone knew The Terrible Thing happened to, and people knew I gained all of that weight Because of What Happened.

I received EMDR therapy for the PTSD. By treating the PTSD, I naturally lost a lot about half of the weight. The other half stuck. On these medications, I eat about 1,800-2,100 calories a day with a welcome indifference. It doesn't make you starve yourself. It makes the panicked voice telling me to eat an entire pizza followed by a jar of peanut butter go away. That voice is gone. My trauma is still there, and I continue to work on it, and probably always will. I'm so glad there are both therapies and medications for my PTSD and my eating disorder -- and that's what I have, an eating disorder. Not also grappling with the peanut butter, pizza, and 50-100 lbs., and the voice telling me that binging will make things better, does make the load of working through my PTSD more manageable. Thanks so much for all the concern. There but for the grace of God you go.

My mom is a bit overweight, not by much at all, but diabetic, has a very sensitive stomach, and is in her early 80s. She was told by her mom physicians to take ozempic and has had no side effects - no weight loss but excellent blood work. My cousin is half her age, was more overweight and diabetic by 30 (mom tipped into T2 at 73, is responsible with diet - her side has a classic, massive, genetic predisposition to T2 diabetes). He was on Ozempic and his blood work was great and the weight fell right off — and then he wound up losing too much, developed side effects, and ultimately had to go off entirely. I believe his experience is rare, and wanted to share my mother’s experience because I was so worried for her, and she has done so well with it despite age. I think if you’re under responsible care, these are well-vetted drugs. And if your experience changes - you wean off of it.

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why anyone not taking it would be stressed about it.

I’m not stressed about people taking lexapro off label for anxiety, because I’m not a doctor and I’m not taking it. I don’t have any opinion on the medical implications of taking it nor the morality of not meditating instead. Why would I? People are so weird about weight.

Because the story of these drugs matches the story of many other pharmaceutical regulatory failures almost exactly, and it is frustrating to see. Many of us in DC know a lot about regulations and health care and it’s like groundhog’s day. Also it’s an important cautionary tale to keep in mind whenever any of us are prescribed any mediation. You have to ask: what are the risks, what are the benefits, is the dosage correct, what are the alternatives.

If you aren’t on it, how do you know these conversations aren’t being had? You’re comparing this basically to the opioid epidemic, and it’s frankly offensive. These drugs have been around for a decade and there aren’t semaglutide zombies wandering DC streets or breaking in to pharmacies to get semaglutide.

no, I’m not comparing it to opioids. Anyone who knows anything about pharmaceutical regulation knows that this follows a predictable pattern.

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Anonymous wrote:I am scared of the side effects and therefore will not try these drugs. Will wait for the next generation and until then keep trying the old-fashioned way.

I’ve been on Ozempic since spring 2022. The only side effects have been constipation (if I don’t drink enough water) and fatigue the first few days after taking it. That gets better over time, but I definitely noticed it when I upped my dosage. I’ve never thrown up or been trapped in the bathroom with on-going GI issues.

People tend to complain and post negative side effects, so it can seem like that’s the norm. The reality is that 80% of users have few if any negative side effects. But you don’t hear from them.

Or until it’s too late

A dear friend experienced projectile vomiting. No thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am scared of the side effects and therefore will not try these drugs. Will wait for the next generation and until then keep trying the old-fashioned way.

I’ve been on Ozempic since spring 2022. The only side effects have been constipation (if I don’t drink enough water) and fatigue the first few days after taking it. That gets better over time, but I definitely noticed it when I upped my dosage. I’ve never thrown up or been trapped in the bathroom with on-going GI issues.

People tend to complain and post negative side effects, so it can seem like that’s the norm. The reality is that 80% of users have few if any negative side effects. But you don’t hear from them.

Or until it’s too late

Semaglutide has been in use for nearly 2 decades. When do you expect this?

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Anonymous wrote:I am scared of the side effects and therefore will not try these drugs. Will wait for the next generation and until then keep trying the old-fashioned way.

I’ve been on Ozempic since spring 2022. The only side effects have been constipation (if I don’t drink enough water) and fatigue the first few days after taking it. That gets better over time, but I definitely noticed it when I upped my dosage. I’ve never thrown up or been trapped in the bathroom with on-going GI issues.

People tend to complain and post negative side effects, so it can seem like that’s the norm. The reality is that 80% of users have few if any negative side effects. But you don’t hear from them.

Or until it’s too late

Anonymous wrote:“Dec 8 (Reuters) - A Louisiana federal judge on Friday largely rejected Novo Nordisk’s bid to dismiss one of the earliest lawsuits brought against the pharmaceutical company over side effects of its blockbuster drug Ozempic.”

Is Semaglutide Okay?
Ozempic Lawsuit



“People have taken legal action against the makers of Ozempic, one of the most popular diabetes and weight loss drugs on the market. This follows recent complaints from individuals who used this drug to manage Type 2 diabetes and promote weight loss. Some individuals we talked to complained of serious stomach complications resulting from regular use of this drug…. many other Ozempic lawsuits filed by people who have experienced the ….side effects or something similar.”


https://www.forthepeople.com/practice-areas/mass-tort-lawyers/weight-loss-lawsuit/ozempic/

This link goes to an ambulance chaser law firm wanting you to join their lawsuit!

It's the same firm that runs those awful ads telling you to call if you took a Tylenol during pregnancy and your dc has autism!