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Anonymous wrote:this is because biden won't order federal employees back to the office. bowser is trying to get him to do that and this is a way to try to increase the pressure.

Oh please. There’s no good reasons for Feds to RTO (or anyone else), especially if that’s just to support the DC economy. For Bowser to think that this is going to do anything is ludicrous and shows nothing but her desperation. No one in the Admin pays attention to her.

Many cities are having this issue. Don't just blame Bowser. I don't like her, but people need to get back to the office.

No they don’t need to get back to the office. The work is getting done. There’s absolutely no reason.
Don’t look to workers to subsidize the city. Those days are long gone.

I wish the work were getting done, but the facts show that DC's local government is a mess, and the job is not getting. Go back to the office.

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Anonymous wrote:How many DC government office workers are there? (Not federal)

36,000 I think.

but that number includes teachers who were already not teleworking

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is because biden won't order federal employees back to the office. bowser is trying to get him to do that and this is a way to try to increase the pressure.

Oh please. There’s no good reasons for Feds to RTO (or anyone else), especially if that’s just to support the DC economy. For Bowser to think that this is going to do anything is ludicrous and shows nothing but her desperation. No one in the Admin pays attention to her.

Many cities are having this issue. Don't just blame Bowser. I don't like her, but people need to get back to the office.

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Anonymous wrote:City employees will rebel over this. Bowser will back down. It will return to no more than two days in office. Guaranteed.

No chance.

That’s the whole point. This is a way to reduce headcount without calling it a downsizing.

It's not a bad idea. DC government agencies are filled with people who barely work. Also, the people most likely to object to this are people who live outside DC. If the upshot of this policy is that a bunch of DC employees living in VA/MD decide to quit instead of drive (you know they would drive not take public transportation) to work in DC 4 days a week, because they care so little about getting their jobs done that actually going to an office where they might interact with the people they supposedly serve is unreasonable to them, I am all for it. Take them off the payroll and keep them from becoming pension eligible. Fill those positions with DC residents who won't clog the streets with cars everyday.

I am not a Bowser fan but support this move. It's overdue in my opinion.

1. DC Government employees don't get pensions.
2. There are plenty of people in the District who "work" and get terminated if they don't - see the OEA decisions available online.
3. DC government employees should not be required to take public transportation given the horrible crime in DC. You can if you want to though.
4. Most DC government employees have little to no interaction with the public - i.e., policy analysts, attorneys, etc. You need to disabuse yourself of the notion that every DC employee is a receptionist or sloth-like front desk agent. There is the same variety of positions in District Government that there is in the federal government and the pay is similar.
5. DC residents get hiring PREFERENCE when there are job openings. The reason DC residents haven't been hired is because clearly, the Maryland and Virginia candidates were more qualified. You can address that issue with your Mayor and/or the school Superintendent.

Anonymous wrote:[My pedantic trigger is when people refer specifically to DC as a city; as a political entity, Washington, DC is not a city. There is no "city government," there's a District government; there is no city council, there's a District council; there are no city employees, there are District employees.

Now, I am not triggered when the District and other metropolitan entities are being referred to collectively as "cities" or when DC is compared to "other cities." I also don't get DC having a State Board of Education but presume that reflects something in the USC or DOE regs.

I apologize for using your time to air my grievance.]

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Anonymous wrote:City employees will rebel over this. Bowser will back down. It will return to no more than two days in office. Guaranteed.

No chance.

That’s the whole point. This is a way to reduce headcount without calling it a downsizing.

It's not a bad idea. DC government agencies are filled with people who barely work. Also, the people most likely to object to this are people who live outside DC. If the upshot of this policy is that a bunch of DC employees living in VA/MD decide to quit instead of drive (you know they would drive not take public transportation) to work in DC 4 days a week, because they care so little about getting their jobs done that actually going to an office where they might interact with the people they supposedly serve is unreasonable to them, I am all for it. Take them off the payroll and keep them from becoming pension eligible. Fill those positions with DC residents who won't clog the streets with cars everyday.

I am not a Bowser fan but support this move. It's overdue in my opinion.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many DC government office workers are there? (Not federal)

36,000 I think.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is because biden won't order federal employees back to the office. bowser is trying to get him to do that and this is a way to try to increase the pressure.

Oh please. There’s no good reasons for Feds to RTO (or anyone else), especially if that’s just to support the DC economy. For Bowser to think that this is going to do anything is ludicrous and shows nothing but her desperation. No one in the Admin pays attention to her.

Many cities are having this issue. Don't just blame Bowser. I don't like her, but people need to get back to the office.

No they don’t need to get back to the office. The work is getting done. There’s absolutely no reason.
Don’t look to workers to subsidize the city. Those days are long gone.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is because biden won't order federal employees back to the office. bowser is trying to get him to do that and this is a way to try to increase the pressure.

Oh please. There’s no good reasons for Feds to RTO (or anyone else), especially if that’s just to support the DC economy. For Bowser to think that this is going to do anything is ludicrous and shows nothing but her desperation. No one in the Admin pays attention to her.

Many cities are having this issue. Don't just blame Bowser. I don't like her, but people need to get back to the office.

No they don’t need to get back to the office. The work is getting done. There’s absolutely no reason.
Don’t look to workers to subsidize the city. Those days are long gone.

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Anonymous wrote:My spouse works for Maryland state government and they were ordered back into the office 3 days a week like 2 years ago. I don't really get what the big deal is here. I guess 3 days would be better than 4, but I also think it's insane that there are people who haven't set foot in an office since March 2020. That was 4 years ago! It's crazy this took so long. If I was a DC employee who was required to work in person (teacher, police officer, public works employee, DMV, etc.) I'd have such immense scorn for the lazy middle managers parked on their butts in suburban home sending emails all day and never bothering to come into the office.

But you are ok with middle managers parked on their butts in urban offices sending emails all day.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is because biden won't order federal employees back to the office. bowser is trying to get him to do that and this is a way to try to increase the pressure.

Oh please. There’s no good reasons for Feds to RTO (or anyone else), especially if that’s just to support the DC economy. For Bowser to think that this is going to do anything is ludicrous and shows nothing but her desperation. No one in the Admin pays attention to her.

Many cities are having this issue. Don't just blame Bowser. I don't like her, but people need to get back to the office.

Anonymous wrote:My spouse works for Maryland state government and they were ordered back into the office 3 days a week like 2 years ago. I don't really get what the big deal is here. I guess 3 days would be better than 4, but I also think it's insane that there are people who haven't set foot in an office since March 2020. That was 4 years ago! It's crazy this took so long. If I was a DC employee who was required to work in person (teacher, police officer, public works employee, DMV, etc.) I'd have such immense scorn for the lazy middle managers parked on their butts in suburban home sending emails all day and never bothering to come into the office.