Anonymous
Post 01/06/2024 15:24     Subject: Measles cluster in Philadelphia, thanks to people who won't follow public health advice
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I blame the Ds for this too. They flew too fast and loose with mandates on covid vaxx so people now don't trust them on any vaxxes.


It was an unprecedented pandemic. Low paid, dedicated public health professionals had to make decisions before there were data to guide them.

They saved many lives (despite the dolts who they reported to, in the South and in the White House).


OK well these are the consequences so...


I will never allow you to justify the selfish behavior of others, putting vulnerable people at risk, b/c they were mad about COVID. That's not a "consequence' it is a tempter tantrum.

If they want to not vaccinate and kill their own kids, fine. But they affect other people. And they, and you, should be ashamed at justifying that.


My kids are vaxxed for measles. I'm just telling you how trust in public health works. Take it, or leave it as your own risk.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2024 15:23     Subject: Re:Measles cluster in Philadelphia, thanks to people who won't follow public health advice
Out of curiosity, I looked up the daycare provider to see if it was accredited. It looks like the state revoked its certificate of compliance last week, likely due to this incident. I couldn't tell from the story, but I'm wondering if the daycare exposure was from an employee (the parent of the unvaccinated kid who was told to quarantine).

Regardless, it's reprehensible that the adult who was advised to quarantine allowed other children to be exposed at the daycare and at healthcare facilities where the kids sought treatment. Here is the press release from the Philadelphia Health Department.

https://www.phila.gov/2024-01-04-health-department-reports-additional-measles-exposures/
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2024 00:33     Subject: Re:Measles cluster in Philadelphia, thanks to people who won't follow public health advice
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Public health has themselves to thank for this.

Overselling and mandating Covid vaccines has resulted in a not-small number of individuals looking askew at *all* vaccines. Additionally the push to vaccine everyone 6 months and older, instead of focusing on those at higher risk.

Look at how the number of flu shots have declined over the past 3 years, after steady growth in the previous decade:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/vaccine-supply-historical.htm



I would be very careful about conflating COVID/flu with measles vaccines. The MMR was the target of a very specific and eventually rescinded smear campaign beginning in the early 2000s, and vaccination rates among certain communities have never recovered. Those include Orthodox Jews, some far-right conspiracy theorists, and far-left conspiracy theorists.


+1
This is the only relevant comment in the thread. According to the CDC, there were 1274 measles cases reported in 2019 in the US. There were 41reported in 2023. Covid distancing probably reduced measles cases, but ideas about Measles vaccinations were strongly entrenched before Covid.

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/cases-outbreaks.html
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2024 23:56     Subject: Measles cluster in Philadelphia, thanks to people who won't follow public health advice
Anonymous wrote:Polio is also coming back Maga and republicans are beyond dumb at this point

Sure let’s listen to Republicans who lie daily about science that has been around for years and years

These same morons think it’s great to support the guy who stole from St Jude’s $1.8 mil from kids with cancer


Psss this wasn’t republicans. Look at the neighborhood.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2024 23:32     Subject: Measles cluster in Philadelphia, thanks to people who won't follow public health advice
Anonymous wrote:people have forgotten that measles can kill children.

https://fs.blog/roald-dahl-letter-daughter/

They know but simply don’t care.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2024 22:41     Subject: Re:Measles cluster in Philadelphia, thanks to people who won't follow public health advice
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unbelievable! Is it contained or does it continue to spread?

Measles is crazy contagious.


Honest question (that will start a flamewar because people lose their sh*t at the mere mention): Do masks help prevent measles?


Do they help? Sure. Do they prevent it entirely, especially if the people who actually have measles aren't wearing them? No. The thing that works is the measles vaccine, especially widespread vaccination, to create herd immunity.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2024 22:38     Subject: Measles cluster in Philadelphia, thanks to people who won't follow public health advice
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:people have forgotten that measles can kill children.

https://fs.blog/roald-dahl-letter-daughter/


Thank goodness it’s not 1962.
Today death from measles itself is extremely rare.

The faux outrage over this 😂

There were measles outbreaks before Covid , during Covid and they will continue. And besides outbreaks there will be a few cases reported here and there.

Many people who are diagnosed with Measles have been vaxxed. And then the question if should a measles vax booster be required gets brought up but the idea never catches on.



The vaccine is 99% effective— no it’s not 100% but before you say ish like “many people with measles were vaxxed” you need to have a source or you are just spouting misinformation

So no it’s not “faux outrage”
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2024 22:15     Subject: Measles cluster in Philadelphia, thanks to people who won't follow public health advice
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not sure why we haven’t learned from covid that unreasonable quarantines don’t work. An asymptotic, working parent is not going to isolate for 21 days.


Maybe you should read up on measles a bit.


Ok, but they may take 21 days off after the funeral of their spouse or child. Just saying.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2024 20:12     Subject: Measles cluster in Philadelphia, thanks to people who won't follow public health advice
Anonymous wrote:https://www.inquirer.com/health/philadelphia-measles-mmr-vaccine-childrens-hospital-20240104.html

Before they knew a hospitalized infant had measles, she had spread it to 2 other children at the CHOP (Children's Hosp of Philly). One was an infant too young to be vaccinated and the other was an older child whose parents had refused to vaccinate. The older child's parents also refused to take medication to prevent them from getting measles, and one of those parents (also unvaxed) now has measles too.

Then one of those infected people (the parent?) violated quarantine and went to a DAY CARE CENTER, where now there are 2 more suspected cases.

Thank you RFK Jr, Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, Ron DeSantis and your crazy Surgeon General, and all you other antivax, anti-public health morons whose hard work is responsible for this.



So, you're saying parents of children at this day care, which appears to be next to a Halal supermarket are all crazy right wingers? I'm thinking that's not the case here.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2024 20:02     Subject: Measles cluster in Philadelphia, thanks to people who won't follow public health advice
Anonymous wrote:people have forgotten that measles can kill children.

https://fs.blog/roald-dahl-letter-daughter/


Thank goodness it’s not 1962.
Today death from measles itself is extremely rare.

The faux outrage over this 😂

There were measles outbreaks before Covid , during Covid and they will continue. And besides outbreaks there will be a few cases reported here and there.

Many people who are diagnosed with Measles have been vaxxed. And then the question if should a measles vax booster be required gets brought up but the idea never catches on.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2024 20:02     Subject: Measles cluster in Philadelphia, thanks to people who won't follow public health advice
Polio is also coming back Maga and republicans are beyond dumb at this point

Sure let’s listen to Republicans who lie daily about science that has been around for years and years

These same morons think it’s great to support the guy who stole from St Jude’s $1.8 mil from kids with cancer
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2024 19:56     Subject: Re:Measles cluster in Philadelphia, thanks to people who won't follow public health advice
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unbelievable! Is it contained or does it continue to spread?

Measles is crazy contagious.


Honest question (that will start a flamewar because people lose their sh*t at the mere mention): Do masks help prevent measles?
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2024 19:53     Subject: Measles cluster in Philadelphia, thanks to people who won't follow public health advice
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I already hate literally everyone on this thread except for the original poster. Crazy ass hippie Dems and Maga turds. Go to hell, all of you.


When it comes to COVID in 2023/and now 2024, the dems and repubs are equally horrible. Everyone is ableist as hell


Pretty much, innit?
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2024 19:53     Subject: Measles cluster in Philadelphia, thanks to people who won't follow public health advice
Anonymous wrote:I blame the Ds for this too. They flew too fast and loose with mandates on covid vaxx so people now don't trust them on any vaxxes.


You are stupid

Ridiculous

Mandates were messed up bec of your own stupid Maga morons I’m tired if this crap grow the hell up

Antivax is a Republican icaused problem omg don’t trust science is the idiot crowd that supports Don the con who literally killed over 1 million Americans and will again bec of his lies and the republicans spewing with him like Florida right now!
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2024 19:52     Subject: Measles cluster in Philadelphia, thanks to people who won't follow public health advice
people have forgotten that measles can kill children.

https://fs.blog/roald-dahl-letter-daughter/